And once again, the Steam-player gets the better deal...

[MrFingers]

 

[loppantorkel]

9 minutes ago, MrFingers said:

 

Regional pricing as a bonus though

[DaMaGGo]

So you want the regional prices of india for example?

good, but are you willing to take the downsides as well? 

Let´s see how far the yearly average salary of $1670 (2016) gets you...

 

Still in it?

 

TL:DR

Stop crying

[Klopirat]

13 minutes ago, MrFingers said:

And once again, the Steam-player gets the better deal...

 

offer at steam:

Spoiler

offer in the normal premium shop:

 

Spoiler

really so much better...

[Exocet6951]

Personnally, what I'm seeing is WG selling a copy paste digital good for 63€ base price.

And to say that 12 years ago, we were outraged about a 4€ horse armor DLC...

[Nov_A]

Regional pricing would make an Alaska cost me more than 100 USD.

[NothingButTheRain]

6 hours ago, DaMaGGo said:

So you want the regional prices of india for example?

good, but are you willing to take the downsides as well? 

Let´s see how far the yearly average salary of $1670 (2016) gets you...

 

Still in it?

 

TL:DR

Stop crying

So then why don't the WG hire some programmers from over there instead?

 

I know MrFingers can come across as a bit nagging at times but he does kinda have a point.

[DaMaGGo]

Vor 6 Minuten, NothingButTheRain sagte:

So then why don't the WG hire some programmers from over there instead?

 

I know MrFingers can come across as a bit nagging at times but he does kinda have a point.

I get his point, so the last words were a bit harsh i admit.

 

But there is regional pricing for a reason.

I would love the fact that everyone pays the same for the same digital goods. 

 

[albin322]

6 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

Personnally, what I'm seeing is WG selling a copy paste digital good for 63€ base price.

And to say that 12 years ago, we were outraged about a 4€ horse armor DLC...

to be fair we dont need to buy it and its a free game if [edited] want to spend those kind of moneys on this let them hey it funds the game for me ;D

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, NothingButTheRain said:

So then why don't the WG hire some programmers from over there instead?

 

I know MrFingers can come across as a bit nagging at times but he does kinda have a point.

So you think it is a good idea to give work away to other countries that can be done competivly in your home country?

 

Other companies had that idea over 30 years ago, guess what happened to programmer salaries in India?

The cost difference for software development between India and Russia is pretty low.

[loppantorkel]

6 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

Personnally, what I'm seeing is WG selling a copy paste digital good for 63€ base price.

And to say that 12 years ago, we were outraged about a 4€ horse armor DLC...

Yea, it's ridiculous if you think about it. Otoh, it's a F2P game that needs funding somehow. I pay for something now and then just for the sake of it. Not ever going to be a whale, but I think it's fair to pay something for most entertainment you get on a regular basis.

[NothingButTheRain]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

So you think it is a good idea to give work away to other countries that can be done competivly in your home country?

 

Other companies had that idea over 30 years ago, guess what happened to programmer salaries in India?

The cost difference for software development between India and Russia is pretty low.

How about you stop misinterpreting me? Would be a good change.

I never implied what you said, I was responding to someone who's quote I had actually included.

Perhaps try to see the meaning of this before removing the gloves, you've potatoed like this twice before.

[albin322]

1 hour ago, loppantorkel said:

Yea, it's ridiculous if you think about it. Otoh, it's a F2P game that needs funding somehow. I pay for something now and then just for the sake of it. Not ever going to be a whale, but I think it's fair to pay something for most entertainment you get on a regular basis.

i have to many premium ships i cant play them. so from now on i only buy premium time thats my way to rupport !

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, NothingButTheRain said:

How about you stop misinterpreting me? Would be a good change.

I never implied what you said, I was responding someone who's quote I had actually included.

Perhaps try to see the meaning of this before removing the gloves, you've potatoed like this twice before.

There is no misinterpretation.

 

[NothingButTheRain]

2 hours ago, DaMaGGo said:

I get his point, so the last words were a bit harsh i admit.

 

But there is regional pricing for a reason.

I would love the fact that everyone pays the same for the same digital goods. 

 

Of course it is there for a reason. It basically comes down to optimising sales.

[NothingButTheRain]

11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

There is no misinterpretation.

 

Yes there is, if only because I know very well what I meant with what I have written and your interpretation of that does not compute with it. Reading your reply you totally missed even how the person I quoted reacted to me. it went something like this:

Basically according to you both me and the person I had a dialogue with are wrong. Yeah sounds plausible my dude 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Yes there is, if only because I know very well what I meant with what I have written ..

 

I am sure of it. But if you meant anything else, you would have explained it. You had two opportunities for that. Since you did not use them, you either meant nothing else or are waiting to come up with a fitting story.

[NothingButTheRain]

11 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

I am sure of it. But if you meant anything else, you would have explained it. You had two opportunities for that. Since you did not use them, you either meant nothing else or are waiting to come up with a fitting story.

Ow, but you don't know that.

Humans are not simple input->output which is 100% predictable which explains what is wrong with the bolded assumption.

Now the underlined assumption is a logical fallacy, partially because you are trying to imply there was something of a missed opportunity on my part to explain something to you, you are fabricating a wrongdoing on my part.

The italic part is a 3rd incorrect assumption since in your world there should only be 2 possible outcomes, discrediting the notion that there may be more possible outcomes that you don't know about by default.

And this is how you often potato. Dude this way of arguing with me will never work but feel free to waste more time.

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Ow, but you don't know that.

I do.

[Starchy_Tuber]

10 hours ago, MrFingers said:

 

"

And once again, the Steam-player gets the better deal...

"

 

UK - Steam price Alaska B £46.19p, WG Price Alaska B £46.11p

So Steam is £0.08p more expensive...

and your point was....?

[NothingButTheRain]

20 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

I do.

You don't. Or do you really believe you have a better understanding of what train of thoughts is inside my head then I myself have?

[HassenderZerhacker]

On 11/30/2019 at 2:43 PM, DaMaGGo said:

So you want the regional prices of india for example?

good, but are you willing to take the downsides as well? 

Let´s see how far the yearly average salary of $1670 (2016) gets you...

 

Still in it?

 

TL:DR

Stop crying

I'm with the OP.

Regional pricing is just evil.

 

A product's price should be function of production cost and scarcity + a profit margin, not based on what people can pay.

 

The latter is just horrible, it means it's ok for people to get ripped off because they are rich.

In the best case it comes down to high price buyers subsidizing the others, which is just wrong on so many levels too.

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

I'm with the OP.

Regional pricing is just evil.

 

A product's price should be function of production cost and scarcity + a profit margin, not based on what people can pay.

 

The latter is just horrible, it means it's ok for people to get ripped off because they are rich.

In the best case it comes down to high price buyers subsidizing the others, which is just wrong on so many levels too.

Tell that the governments with their taxes and currency exchange ratios.

As long as these are different from country to country, you will have price differences.

[MyopicHedgehog]

2 hours ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

I'm with the OP.

Regional pricing is just evil.

 

A product's price should be function of production cost and scarcity + a profit margin, not based on what people can pay.

 

The latter is just horrible, it means it's ok for people to get ripped off because they are rich.

In the best case it comes down to high price buyers subsidizing the others, which is just wrong on so many levels too.

 

So if you want to sell a (digital) product in a country that doesn't have high disposable income c.f. your base country you shouldn't reduce its price?  Assume you've already covered the cost of producing it, all else is profit.  It's a discretionary "good" with no actual intrinsic value so where's the problem?

 

It's not like we live in a global community where everyone earns the same and has the same outgoings you know.

 

And as to the bolded bit, if you chose to pay you can't claim to be ripped off!  Re the italicised bit, why is it wrong?  Do you shop for things IRL as it is a really common occurrence.

[HassenderZerhacker]

15 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Tell that the governments with their taxes and currency exchange ratios.

As long as these are different from country to country, you will have price differences.

err, no.

there might differences in sales tax (about 5 to 15%), but currencies have nothing to do with it.

 

13 hours ago, MyopicHedgehog said:

 

So if you want to sell a (digital) product in a country that doesn't have high disposable income c.f. your base country you shouldn't reduce its price?  Assume you've already covered the cost of producing it, all else is profit.  It's a discretionary "good" with no actual intrinsic value so where's the problem?

 

It's not like we live in a global community where everyone earns the same and has the same outgoings you know.

 

And as to the bolded bit, if you chose to pay you can't claim to be ripped off!  Re the italicised bit, why is it wrong?  Do you shop for things IRL as it is a really common occurrence.

 

selling at differences prices is not really a problem, the problem lies in preventing informed customers from other countries to buy at the lower prices.

 

there are similar scams going on for airplane tickets.

 

in Switzerland, there is also a scam regarding household appliances such as washing machines, which are often 50% more expensive in Switzerland than 5Km away in Germany.

 

selling digital goods at different prices depending on the buyer's IP address is simply a scam.

the "intrinsic value" thing can be discussed - even many physical goods have very low intrinsic value but are sold for big $$$. here I think about value given by the brand for example.

 

so you think selling digital goods at different prices based on the buyer's IP address is ok.

 

did you ever think about who buys digital goods in India?

I live in Thailand.

here I see the people who buy digital goods, for example world of tanks premium tanks.

most buyers have dozens of premium tanks.

and they have good computers to play the game.

who do you think they are?

farm laborers earning 260 baht /day?

or rather members of well-off families owning several cars, several houses with maids?

these people's disposable income's buying power is far superior to that of most of the EU's impoverished youth.