Smolensk AA op

[lovemasin]

Smolensk AA is op. Thats all please nerf. So you have a change to do damage. 

[DFens_666]

@El2aZeR thats one for you.

IIRC; Smolensk AA isnt good, so no need to nerf it any further. El2azer has the numbers, he can tell you more about it

 

[Uglesett]

Njet comrade.

 

We cannot have Glory of Soviet Union be vulnerable to Capitalist Western aircraft carriers.

[iFax]

Just now, Uglesett said:

Njet comrade.

 

We cannot have Glory of Soviet Union be vulnerable to Capitalist Western aircraft carriers.

Wot is noise? Ah comrade Stalin turnik in grave!

[lovemasin]

Midway HE bomber full squadren -1 i can get only 1 attack on it so ye not op it needs a buff :D and why cant i get a citedel with the tiny tim it has 68mm of pen

[thiextar]

2 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

Midway HE bomber full squadren -1 i can get only 1 attack on it so ye not op it needs a buff :D and why cant i get a citedel with the tiny tim it has 68mm of pen

try missing some of the flak puffs

[lovemasin]

Just now, thiextar said:

try missing some of the flak puffs

i did still more or less ussles :(

[Rionnen_marksman]

Citadel with rockets?

 

lol.

[ForlornSailor]

6 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

Midway HE bomber full squadren -1 i can get only 1 attack on it so ye not op it needs a buff :D and why cant i get a citedel with the tiny tim it has 68mm of pen

 

How about you use this forum as a source to learn & get better instead of whinging and trying to tell us, your sub-par performance it the ultima ratio?

 

You think THATS an acceptable performance for a T10 CV? How come others do WAY better then you if your story would hold true?

 

[lovemasin]

1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

How about you use this forum as a source to learn & get better instead of whinging and trying to tell us, your sub-par performance it the ultima ratio?

 

You think THATS an acceptable performance for a T10 CV? How come others do WAY better then you if your story would hold true?

 

uuuuuuu nice stat shaming good work :)

 

[ForlornSailor]

Just now, lovemasin said:

uuuuuuu nice stat shaming good work :)

 

Everyone gets what he deserves. btw: its not.

A) The stats clearly show, the problem is with you, not with the Smolensk.

B) You can hide you stats. If you dont, you give consent that everyone is looking at them. easy as that. Cant take it? Hide em.

[Elypse201]

2 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

You think THATS an acceptable performance for a T10 CV?

He only faces OP ruski Smolensk AA can't do anything there clearly unplayable, also it wouldn't be the first time that someone comes into the forum and crys for non existend problems and hasn't the best of all stats.

 

3 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

How come others do WAY better then you if your story would hold true?

H.A.X. clearly

 

[DrMechano]

Nothing made me chuckle more than seeing a Smol get blapped out of existence by Haku DBs of all things, I didn't think they would citadel due to the thin armor but its looks like the citadel deck roof is just enough to arm them. Was surprised so suddenly see a Smol just disappear at half health, I mean it might have been a detonation.

[CptBarney]

I have no problems with smolensk's i've killed quite a few so far in my midway (and shes my first and only tier 10 so im still learning).

https://wows-numbers.com/player/552657871,BrigadierRosen/

 

You should aim for something similar too be honest, make sure to slingshot (so drop around at 6.7km-7.4km depending on whether she is moving fast or not, is she isnt moving then 6.0km should be fine, make sure to adjust speed before bombs hit to make sure you slow down or speed up in time).

 

But yeah you can hit them, when theres loads of ships together it's harder and you will use lose planes but then just focus on ships that are isolated or with weak AA support and repeatdly attack them. Make sure to shorten squads if you think you will lose a lot of planes.

[ClappingLollies]

I have had 0 issues dropping Smolensk even with T8 CV's. 

User error? 

[Blixies]

2 minutes ago, MortenTardo said:

I have had 0 issues dropping Smolensk even with T8 CV's. 

User error? 

Amen.

[genosse]

Not calling for a nerf, but I don't think Smolensk has bad AA, just because an unicum player is able to outplay it.

 

In WoT for example (sorry to mention it again, but it was the only game I was somewhat good at), I didn't call IS-4's armor weak, just because I was able to aim and shoot at a two pixel wide moving hatch weakspot in a fraction of a second and from any distance.

 

Yes it's nice to be able to do that, but it's not representative.

 

I think it's more importamt to think of the average player, and for those, Smolensk's AA is no pushover, especially with the right captain skills.

 

Other than that: If you manage to make at least one full attack run with an uptiered carrier, the AA is not OP, in my opinion. Ships need some defense, or it gets frustrating.

[DFens_666]

5 minutes ago, MortenTardo said:

I have had 0 issues dropping Smolensk even with T8 CV's. 

User error? 

 

 

Just now, genosse said:

Not calling for a nerf, but I don't think Smolensk has bad AA, just because an unicum player is able to outplay it.

 

Well, bad CV players collect flak from DDs so... just a problem with the mechanics.

[ForlornSailor]

2 minutes ago, genosse said:

I think it's more importamt to think of the average player, and for those, Smolensk's AA is no pushover, especially with the right captain skills.

 

And that would only matter if games are always 11 Smolensk vs 1 CV. Which, clearly, is very far from the reality. So we have ships with stronger AA. The game in the current state actually needs more of those ships.

[Miragetank90]

No offence but the AA is not OP, au contraire, it's you who is looking a bit UP.

I suggest buffing your CV play, there are plenty of resources which can help you in this regard, here and on youtube, etc. 

 

After which you might find it isn't so OP after all. 

[genosse]

Just now, DFens_666 said:

 

 

Well, bad CV players collect flak from DDs so... just a problem with the mechanics.

I think you are on to something. ;)

[Bear__Necessities]

My Smol loves chewing up planes 

 

But most CV players are not any better than OP so...

[Pappus]

29 minutes ago, thiextar said:

try missing some of the flak puffs

You jokesters and the flak puffs. Smolensk absolutely has enough to reduce a full bomber squad to one attack of AA. The turning circle is huge of the HE bombers - so huge that flak puffs actually appear again after your dive because you are more than 3.5km out.

 

So if you want to multistrike a smolensk you better use an island otherwise pre-drop until it is only one strike.

[ForlornSailor]

2 minutes ago, Pappus said:

You jokesters and the flak puffs. Smolensk absolutely has enough to reduce a full bomber squad to one attack of AA. The turning circle is huge of the HE bombers - so huge that flak puffs actually appear again after your dive because you are more than 3.5km out.

 

Well then maaaaybe you are suppose to lose some of your precious planes sometimes?

[beercrazy]

It has good aa but certainly not op

Nothing has op aa anymore

 

Smolensk is easy to delete once you get your bombers lined up nicely but don't expect to turn around and spam bomb after bomb drop on them