The amount of bots on the player team in coop is insane

[Purnylla]

Had too many battles recently with only 2 or 3 human players in co-op battles recently. I really dislike games like that. I rather wait longer in queue for a team, play in smaller teams, or play with a non-ideal formation of ships. Anything is better than being grouped with so many bots on the team. Problem seems to occur more frequently recently. 

[BrusilovX]

I was in  a battle around 7:30am where I was the only player (I did win the battle in a DD at least) - the rest were all BOTS.  I think the 30 seconds should go out to 1 minute.

[ColonelPete]

Out of prime time and rare Tiers, can do that.

Had a game at 11 pm at Tier IX were I was the only human. Was quite challenging.

[invicta2012]

Try it when you're in a CV. 

 

This is happening all the time and I can't see why. Last night the game said there were 70 players in the queue and I ended up with three human players. Odd. 

 

Although I am coming to the conclusion that a game mode with a mix of humans and bots on both sides could be fun.

[DaMaGGo]

That happens almost regularly at T VIII. Single human player. That´s when even Coop gets some kind of challenging. But i totally enjoy myself in those matches

[Egoleter]

I much prefer bots over human players on my teams in co-op.

 

Human players I have often found to be far worse then any bot. Eight players went in, seven died without a single enemy bot killed or even half down on HP, and I had to clean up that mess by my lone self (yes, that happened for real). Friendly bots at least engage, shoot their guns, and sink a few enemies.

[Purnylla]

10 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Out of prime time and rare Tiers, can do that.

Had a game at 11 pm at Tier IX were I was the only human. Was quite challenging.

A saturday afternoon doesn't sound like "out of prime time". Not sure Tiers IV-V count as 'rare' either. 

[Starchy_Tuber]

28 minutes ago, Purnylla said:

Had too many battles recently with only 2 or 3 human players in co-op battles recently. I really dislike games like that. I rather wait longer in queue for a team, play in smaller teams, or play with a non-ideal formation of ships. Anything is better than being grouped with so many bots on the team. Problem seems to occur more frequently recently. 

Best type of co-op IS with just 1 human in the team - maximise XP and less chance to get TK'd.

[DanSilverwing]

I don't understand why this is a problem (for players on EU and NA). If there are more bots than humans resist the urge to yolo because your match is no longer a damage race but a marathon. You need to start thinking how to preserve your HP, sacrificing some bot allies and saving others where they are most useful to you.

 

The only thing that is bugging me is having bot CVs on both sides, which is slightly problematic playing a DD. The CVs add so little value to the match experience and just drag out the time. I preferred the old solution of having an extra top-tier BB instead.

 

Edit: just to clarify I didn't wish to belittle anybody else playing co-op since 0.8.10. The number of bots is unprecedented as a result of the matchmaker excluding human players. The problem I have is not the challenge aspect, but instead the time such battles now take. One of the main attractions of co-op play is the fast turnover; or it used to be!!

[MementoMori_6030]

I have some other issues with the bots in my team for quite a while now. It appears that some of them are actively trying to kill me. I don't mean accidental torpings into a melee, but torpedo attacks targeted precisely at me - e.g. enemy ships far north and well out of range of the "assassin bot", me in the south and within range. Is this intended to happen? It mostly occurs at low tier battles.

[IanH755]

The change in Co-Op MatchMaker in 0.8.10 has made it more difficult to properly fill teams with all humans as the new "MM-Balance" really hurts queue times vs making all human teams.

 

I don't think it'll be a success in PvP when it goes live (this new 3-5-7 style MM) if it's already getting complaints in the much rarer Co-Op games. However the increase to 9 bots is fine.

[Smeggo]

Vor 2 Minuten, IanH755 sagte:

[...] However the increase to 9 bots is fine.

If only there weren't so many premature battle ends because of zero-points-left now. 

[Starchy_Tuber]

55 minutes ago, Smeggo said:

If only there weren't so many premature battle ends because of zero-points-left now. 

Same in Random for some time now....

[Sargento_YO]

Think about it, the more bots on your team the more damage and XP you can farm (and even complete some missions, like land X amount of shells with your main battery) when your team it's full of human players you can kill one or two bots before the battle would end.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

I rather play alone with 8 bots against 9 bots than with ANY amount of humans on my team.

Way better chance to achieve what made me play CoOp... ^^

And them bots often are better than many humans I get as CoOp teammates, too..

[lossi_2018]

^{the amount of bots in randoms is pretty impressive too}

[A_useless_noob]

7 hours ago, IanH755 said:

The change in Co-Op MatchMaker in 0.8.10 has made it more difficult to properly fill teams with all humans as the new "MM-Balance" really hurts queue times vs making all human teams. However the increase to 9 bots is fine.

If you can't find 7people to make a team, why increase the number to 9.

When the team is mostly bots, win/loss is more random.  3 ships left in game 1 full health friendly Battleship 1 half dead cruiser, and 1 full health enemy battleship.  Now the battleship could have stayed where he was and capped, we would have won, he could have engaged the enemy ship 50/50 win or lose. instead it sailed off to the top of the map and did nothing.  1 half dead cruiser saved the game.

It's nearly killed world of planes, why try it here

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[starbase]

8 hours ago, Purnylla said:

Had too many battles recently with only 2 or 3 human players in co-op battles recently. I really dislike games like that. I rather wait longer in queue for a team, play in smaller teams, or play with a non-ideal formation of ships. Anything is better than being grouped with so many bots on the team. Problem seems to occur more frequently recently. 

I actually prefer coop battles with bots. When fullfilling directives it's much easier with bots because they won't steal your kills 

[AkosJaccik]

There are less people?! Sh*t, I might pick up the game again!

[BanzaiPiluso]

I do not mind it, it's more fun this way.

A bit of a challenge in co-op is welcome.

 

[lafeel]

9 hours ago, Purnylla said:

Had too many battles recently with only 2 or 3 human players in co-op battles recently. I really dislike games like that. I rather wait longer in queue for a team, play in smaller teams, or play with a non-ideal formation of ships. Anything is better than being grouped with so many bots on the team. Problem seems to occur more frequently recently. 

Consider it a challenge, coming from a player that's won battles with only two actual players on the "player" team (here's how: Keep your bots alive)

[250swb]

12 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

 

And them bots often are better than many humans I get as CoOp teammates, too..

 

Well they aren't much different to humans.

 

I'd been sitting more or less stationary in smoke for a minute when torps appeared from behind me as a cruiser sailed past, BLAM! I thought 'right I'm reporting him' only to then see it was a bot on my team, no, I mean a real bot! There wasn't even an enemy ship the other side of me for it to torp. And we criticise WG for not making the bots realistic?

[BrusilovX]

12 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

I rather play alone with 8 bots against 9 bots than with ANY amount of humans on my team.

Way better chance to achieve what made me play CoOp... ^^

And them bots often are better than many humans I get as CoOp teammates, too..

I think that is true except for when you play a CV - the bots tend to keep pushing and don't go back to defend the cap.  If this happens the CV ends up with no where to run to - at least human players will usually, but not always, go back and defend the cap.

[A_useless_noob]

The AI isn't good enough to have so many in one team.

 

[LowSpeedHighDrag]

On Saturday16 Nov 19 at 1:41 PM, Egoleter said:

I much prefer bots over human players on my teams in co-op.

I would agree, but with a small caveat.  I play Co-op to get particular achievements done.  So less human players = more chance for me to get that achievement or two.