Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #1 Posted May 5, 2015 South Colorina (tier 3) Woyming (tier 4) New York (tier 5) New Mexico (tier 6) 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #2 Posted May 5, 2015 next Colorado (tier 7) North Carolina (tier 8) Iowa (tier 9) Montana (tier 10) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenith Beta Tester 658 posts Report post #3 Posted May 5, 2015 I have a feeling that the Wyoming is going to be insanely awesome at T4. Poor Myogi, it's going to get wrecked hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #4 Posted May 5, 2015 Any info about maximum ranges, reload times or dispersion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #5 Posted May 5, 2015 I have a feeling that the Wyoming is going to be insanely awesome at T4. Poor Myogi, it's going to get wrecked hard. Yeah, more or less. It even has AA. Myogi only appears to have speed and a marginal range advantage on it's side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #6 Posted May 5, 2015 Montana vs Yamato. That's gonna be interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenith Beta Tester 658 posts Report post #7 Posted May 5, 2015 Montana vs Yamato. That's gonna be interesting Imagine if they'd actually built that thing! It's insane! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #8 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Any info about maximum ranges, reload times or dispersion? some images have those values For example: New mexico (tier 6) will have 13,6 km range without FCS update --> less range than Warspite but with better accuracy (215m of gun dispersion) Iowa's guns has 274m of gun dispersion and a ROF of 2 rpm Edited May 5, 2015 by Baron_Von_Flakmeister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #9 Posted May 5, 2015 some images have those values For example: New mexico (tier 6) will have 13,6 km range without FCS update --> less range than Warspite but with better accuracy (215m of gun dispersion) Iowa's guns has 274m of gun dispersion and a ROF of 2 rpm New Mexico doesn't have better accuracy than Warspite though. It has that dispersion at 13.6km, while Warspite has 226m dispersion at 16.3km. At New Mexico's range Warspite has much less dispersion. However, dispersion appears a little wobbly at the moment, because Fuso should have better dispersion at 16.3km than Warspite but it doesn't look like it. So for the time being, I am personally, treating dispersion as a sort of maximum dispersion while the average dispersion can be much less (Warspite) or closer to it (Fuso). But the USN BBs have a massive HE shell. Warspite has a good one, but it can't compare to the American. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #10 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) New Mexico doesn't have better accuracy than Warspite though. It has that dispersion at 13.6km, while Warspite has 226m dispersion at 16.3km. At New Mexico's range Warspite has much less dispersion. However, dispersion appears a little wobbly at the moment, because Fuso should have better dispersion at 16.3km than Warspite but it doesn't look like it. So for the time being, I am personally, treating dispersion as a sort of maximum dispersion while the average dispersion can be much less (Warspite) or closer to it (Fuso). But the USN BBs have a massive HE shell. Warspite has a good one, but it can't compare to the American. the HE shell damage and chance of fire will be doubled in next patch, so it's still equivalent... Edited May 5, 2015 by Baron_Von_Flakmeister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TUD1] Captain_Edwards Beta Tester 1,182 posts Report post #11 Posted May 5, 2015 the HE shell damage and chance of fire will be doubled in next patch, so it's still equivalent... le-wut? That means Warspite would do 12k damage with HE but only 11k with AP. Unless AP gets a bump too that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #12 Posted May 5, 2015 le-wut? That means Warspite would do 12k damage with HE but only 11k with AP. Unless AP gets a bump too that is. Twice chance of fire. not twice the damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #13 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) le-wut? That means Warspite would do 12k damage with HE but only 11k with AP. Unless AP gets a bump too that is. because the armour in next patch will be buffed, so it's a trade off they buffed HE damage to compensate it. You can see that the 16 inches guns have 10k dmg HE now.. So 15 inches guns have about 8-9k dmg Edited May 5, 2015 by Baron_Von_Flakmeister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TUD1] Captain_Edwards Beta Tester 1,182 posts Report post #14 Posted May 5, 2015 Twice chance of fire. not twice the damage. He said damage mate, I ain't that daft. because the armour in next patch will be buffed, so it's a trade off they buffed HE damage to compensate it. You can see that the 16 inches guns have 10k dmg HE now.. So 15 inches guns have about 8-9k dmg So a rough 1.5x bump them? Should make them better suited to module killing with the armour systems specifically but one wonders how the armour itself will cope with the increased damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #15 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) there is battle between a controlled Montana with bots in the later of the clip http://www.twitch.tv/wargaming/v/4693920 Edited May 5, 2015 by Baron_Von_Flakmeister Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FemboyWaifu Beta Tester 70 posts 987 battles Report post #16 Posted May 5, 2015 Anyone got an idea when 3.1 patch hits, going to save up my free xp to try go for tier 5 US BB from the get go rather than get a tier 7 US DD or CA right now. Still I wonder how those gun ranges will work out in plat compared to IJN BBs. Will this force all BBs closer once not everyone is playing US BBs or will US BBs and IJN BBs just fight away from each other. Also be interesting to see how that massive AA works out in higher tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #17 Posted May 5, 2015 no one is complaining about why NC has 23km range while Amagi has 19km...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #18 Posted May 6, 2015 no one is complaining about why NC has 23km range while Amagi has 19km...? Those would be the same people complaining the Fuso has 21.8km and the Warspite 16.3km range? Be glad you aint seeing them ( yet ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] Takeda92 Weekend Tester 3,802 posts 8,478 battles Report post #19 Posted May 6, 2015 Those would be the same people complaining the Fuso has 21.8km and the Warspite 16.3km range? Be glad you aint seeing them ( yet ) Nope they are not. No one cares unless it is a US ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Kreigsmarine Beta Tester 34 posts Report post #20 Posted May 6, 2015 These all look fantastic, but Im waiting for the big one. THE USS IOWA, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilJumpa Beta Tester 4,603 posts 7,488 battles Report post #21 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) These all look fantastic, but Im waiting for the big one. THE USS IOWA, .... which is at Tier 9 Iowa (tier 9) Edited May 6, 2015 by LilJumpa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hop1990 Beta Tester 1 post 508 battles Report post #22 Posted May 6, 2015 Fantastic ships, can't wait to play them all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Give_Them_Hell Beta Tester 1 post 206 battles Report post #23 Posted May 6, 2015 They all look amazing. Keep up the good work Devs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #24 Posted May 6, 2015 Those would be the same people complaining the Fuso has 21.8km and the Warspite 16.3km range? Be glad you aint seeing them ( yet ) and the New Mexico will have worse range than the Warspite (13,6 km without FCS update) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaplainDMK Players 299 posts 692 battles Report post #25 Posted May 6, 2015 How do the ranges compare to the other nations? Currently it seems that Japanese battleships will in general be faster, have better firepower and a bit more range, while sacrificing survivability and accuracy while the US will probably sacrifice speed and range (at the start) for more thicker armor. Later tiers I guess they kind of go for a similar approach to the Japanese. Judging on the Warspite I'd imagine the Royal Navy being sort of middle of the road, with decent speed, good armor, good firepower and good range. Though I'm worried how the old 21 knot standards (New Mexico, Colorado) will measure up against the faster and longer-range Japanese boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
