BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #1 Posted November 4, 2019 I have no time to play the game as before, only in weekends if I wake up very early. Yesterday 5 out of 7 battles with CVs. It's really not fun specially if you drive DDs. Can we have please a check box to opt out of CV battles? Or tweak the MM so you are not thrown that much into the fun festival this class offers, specially on weekends? I am playing more and more co-op nowadays as a result of this. I do not care if some people like CVs, or battles with CVs, etc, but on weekends you just can't avoid these battles. 5 1 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #2 Posted November 4, 2019 Might as well have a check out box for each of the class instead of one.lol. That way if u dont feel like playing against CAs you get that option too!!! Just torp those BBs. How about that. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #3 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, pra3y said: Might as well have a check out box for each of the class instead of one.lol. That way if u dont feel like playing against CAs you get that option too!!! Just torp those BBs. How about that. No, only CVs. I have no issues with the other classes. CVs change the meta too much. Surface ships I do not care, and I am sure most people as well, is the air police big brother in the sky that ruins it for me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,421 battles Report post #4 Posted November 4, 2019 Well after carefully consulting the Spreadsheets WG came again to the Conclusion that everyone had fun. 4 Wins , 4 Losses in DD Quiet the good Results and still moaning? :( I rather think there are more important things to fix. Just now, Winged_Cat_Dormant said: have no issues with the other classes. CVs change the meta too much. And no they don't you just need to play arround them. Going of the rail to torp away doesn't work in that match then *shrug* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #5 Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Winged_Cat_Dormant said: CVs change the meta too much. Alas this is not true, CV or no CV in the particular match the standard potato behaves exactly the same... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #6 Posted November 4, 2019 I want a checkbox “no cruisers”! They spam, they radar, They shoot AA... pesky meta changers! Out of my game please! 3 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,228 battles Report post #7 Posted November 4, 2019 There isn't no way WG would ever do that, the official reason being then they would get demands for opt out boxes for DDs and cruisers, the correct reason being it would mean admitting they made a stupid amount of errors when rushing the implemention of the CV rework. Then it would also mean we could have an opt out of submarines when they get put into randoms ( im just hoping this implementation won't be rushed and that WG are actually going to do all the testing and careful balancing they said they would). Im also in general not sold on the idea of opting out of CVs, there are times when I have lost interest in the game because of the appalling way CVs have been reworked and poorly balanced still its fun when as a Japanese or British DD the enemy CV reports you and complains all battle long that DDs are too powerful and your cheating by dodging their attacks. Although I do concede the rework has certainly increased my dislike of CV games no doubt because of the number of times I get the rage quitting idiot CV player on my team and sadly not equally frequently on the enemy team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,979 battles Report post #8 Posted November 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Winged_Cat_Dormant said: No, only CVs. I have no issues with the other classes. CVs change the meta too much. Surface ships I do not care, and I am sure most people as well, is the air police big brother in the sky that ruins it for me. Someone either didnt play pre rework, or has forgotten that before the rework, CV’s could simultaneously keep up multiple spots almost indefinitely. and cross drop you to death, literally giving you no chance at all. i regularly play all classes, I have a daring, Des Moines, Yamato and many t8-9 that are often uptiered or in CV games. when I play my DD’s I’m not really bothered by CV’s tbh. Perhaps you’re overextending too much? Not reading the mini map? Poor situational awareness? If a CV finds you (true that if they want to, they WILL find you) then head back to cover of other ships, smoke up and go dark for a min or so. i hate Radar so much more than CV’s when I’m in a DD, or the light cruisers with ridiculously low reload times AND radar (Worcester, Mino etc) 1- radar 2- Worcester/mino 3- cv’s. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,856 battles Report post #9 Posted November 4, 2019 Air Superiority CVs please. Let's put the balance back to where it was, allow CVs to become a niche issue, get on with the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,979 battles Report post #10 Posted November 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Air Superiority CVs please. Let's put the balance back to where it was, allow CVs to become a niche issue, get on with the game. Balance back? lol. CV’s were too powerful, they did rework, now if anything (especially damage wise) they are even more powerful. Taking them back to HUGE alpha and 1 ship wipeouts of almost any ship in the game is a step backwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #11 Posted November 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: I want a checkbox “no cruisers”! They spam, they radar, They shoot AA... pesky meta changers! Out of my game please! What do you want to play instead? BB against 9 or 10 DD or DD against 9 or 10 DD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #12 Posted November 4, 2019 Does anyone really wants subs? For real? I cant believe they are putting them in game on top of everything else. Such an OP class of ships it is scary to think what meta they'll create. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,228 battles Report post #13 Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: Does anyone really wants subs? For real? I cant believe they are putting them in game on top of everything else. Such an OP class of ships it is scary to think what meta they'll create. Worryingly yes I once put a very mildly worded comment on a WOWS instagram post saying I don't think subs will fit the game, and I got about 4 or 5 people tell me to kill myself for being anti sub. There are some people who really want subs and looking at the advertisements of Subs WG are pushing out they are going to stay too... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,768 battles Report post #14 Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: Does anyone really wants subs? For real? I cant believe they are putting them in game on top of everything else. Such an OP class of ships it is scary to think what meta they'll create. What is so bad about subs with "hit CV only torps" and appropriate spawns, so that those 2 classes can have their own minigame? 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,979 battles Report post #15 Posted November 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: Worryingly yes I once put a very mildly worded comment on a WOWS instagram post saying I don't think subs will fit the game, and I got about 4 or 5 people tell me to kill myself for being anti sub. There are some people who really want subs and looking at the advertisements of Subs WG are pushing out they are going to stay too... Did you report them to Instagram for breaching their rules promoting suicide? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSVE] iFax [NSVE] Players 535 posts 20,299 battles Report post #16 Posted November 4, 2019 Erm... lol..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSU] Chips_uk Players 290 posts Report post #17 Posted November 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, Rionnen_marksman said: Someone either didnt play pre rework, or has forgotten that before the rework, CV’s could simultaneously keep up multiple spots almost indefinitely. and cross drop you to death, literally giving you no chance at all. Yup, I think it was 2nd or 3rd game in FdG I played - against T10 carrier; was it Midway that could have 3 torp bomber squadrons under way? Certainly 2 - but all were grouped, perfect drop despite trying to turn (as in was in the turn!) to avoid them (as seeing them coming), and died. It was a "welcome to T10 carrier gameplay" back then. Full health to zero. While at the start of the rework there was some terrifying AP bombers around, recently the only time carriers are annoying is end game when you've had (even on an AA build battleship with 99 AA rating) nearly all your AA shot off due to the HE spam and they can just continually attack you with impunity. Admittedly they're way more deadly to dd's but I've still not been insta killed by one yet. The biggest difference for me (as ever) is really how good the carrier on your team is. Generally there's several of every ship class, so if you have a total potato (or like me, have moments when you play like a complete potato regardless), then at least in those classes it averages out a bit; there's another battleship or two, or dd or two, that hopefully play it better and pick up the slack. With carriers, if you get a terrible player on your team and they've got a good one, there's no second or third carrier to balance it out with. Makes it seem so much more lopsided :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #18 Posted November 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, Rionnen_marksman said: Someone either didnt play pre rework, or has forgotten that before the rework, CV’s could simultaneously keep up multiple spots almost indefinitely. and cross drop you to death, literally giving you no chance at all. i regularly play all classes, I have a daring, Des Moines, Yamato and many t8-9 that are often uptiered or in CV games. when I play my DD’s I’m not really bothered by CV’s tbh. Perhaps you’re overextending too much? Not reading the mini map? Poor situational awareness? If a CV finds you (true that if they want to, they WILL find you) then head back to cover of other ships, smoke up and go dark for a min or so. i hate Radar so much more than CV’s when I’m in a DD, or the light cruisers with ridiculously low reload times AND radar (Worcester, Mino etc) 1- radar 2- Worcester/mino 3- cv’s. As if I had written this post myself. @OP, you kniw that what you are asking for can never be done, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,979 battles Report post #19 Posted November 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chips_uk said: Yup, I think it was 2nd or 3rd game in FdG I played - against T10 carrier; was it Midway that could have 3 torp bomber squadrons under way? Certainly 2 - but all were grouped, perfect drop despite trying to turn (as in was in the turn!) to avoid them (as seeing them coming), and died. It was a "welcome to T10 carrier gameplay" back then. Full health to zero. While at the start of the rework there was some terrifying AP bombers around, recently the only time carriers are annoying is end game when you've had (even on an AA build battleship with 99 AA rating) nearly all your AA shot off due to the HE spam and they can just continually attack you with impunity. Admittedly they're way more deadly to dd's but I've still not been insta killed by one yet. The biggest difference for me (as ever) is really how good the carrier on your team is. Generally there's several of every ship class, so if you have a total potato (or like me, have moments when you play like a complete potato regardless), then at least in those classes it averages out a bit; there's another battleship or two, or dd or two, that hopefully play it better and pick up the slack. With carriers, if you get a terrible player on your team and they've got a good one, there's no second or third carrier to balance it out with. Makes it seem so much more lopsided :D It’s like people don’t connect everything, post rework- 1-low alpha 2-fairly low flood chance AND floods don’t last anywhere near as long or do as much damage. 3-far less spotting ability 4- cross dropping is much harder (though certainly not impossible) but yeah, let’s roll all that back so I can have some more 200k+ Quad dev strike matches in my Essex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #20 Posted November 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Capra76 said: What do you want to play instead? BB against 9 or 10 DD or DD against 9 or 10 DD? 10 BB vs 10 BB of course! It’s World of Battleships After all. I really don’t know who came up with the silly idea to include other types of ships and even change the name to “Warships”. It should be well known by now that HE is OP, Torpedos are OP, CVs are OP, and in general it’s all unrealistic that small ships can fight big ships.... So yea. Following this original poster’s line of thoughts it seem as to be the best solution to go with Battleships only / single class game 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,517 battles Report post #21 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Winged_Cat_Dormant said: Can we have please a check box to opt out of CV battles? I have been saying the same thing for a while. I see the value of a " Opt Out " at T3 and T4, above that I dont think its has got Value 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #22 Posted November 4, 2019 As a DD player I'd rather have a tickbox to exclude radar from my games. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #23 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Reichtangle said: Well after carefully consulting the Spreadsheets WG came again to the Conclusion that everyone had fun. 4 Wins , 4 Losses in DD Quiet the good Results and still moaning? :( I rather think there are more important things to fix. And no they don't you just need to play arround them. Going of the rail to torp away doesn't work in that match then *shrug* Why do you think I do that? I am saying I do not want to play around them all the time. I can play around them, and is not fun. CV meta is not fun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #24 Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hedgehog1963 said: As a DD player I'd rather have a tickbox to exclude radar from my games. I disagree here. I like the radar challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSSU] Chips_uk Players 290 posts Report post #25 Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Winged_Cat_Dormant said: Why do you think I do that? I am saying I do not want to play around them all the time. I can play around them, and is not fun. CV meta is not fun. Wait. what's the meta again? I thought it was HE spam from smoke while bug on spotter being unable to detect origins of shots... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites