[ISFC] Ebusus Beta Tester 258 posts 5,688 battles Report post #1 Posted May 5, 2015 I know it might be a tad to soon as there are tonns of other stuff to be fleshed out first but: Would it not be great if a certain amount, even if not big, of destroyed ships, do not go automatically under but, say, roll on their backs and stay afloat, or change to some really burned out state and keep floating around just as in real life? Just like on WoT, destroyed vehicles keep around, much of the same could happen at WoW. This would add to the battle imersion as ships in battle would not all go under in a matter of seconds. Add a, say, yellow wreck marker, on the Strat maps so that those busy on the sniper mode might "see" that they are aproaching a wreck they might ram. This could be paired with some really catastrophic explosions like the turret flying in the air thing of WoT. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #2 Posted May 5, 2015 The catastrofic explosions would be a nice adition. Any ship that is defeated while receiving a citadel hit should depict one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,792 battles Report post #3 Posted May 5, 2015 Totally agree. A slightly more complex damage model would be the icing on the cake! I'd love to see wrecks (or a % of them) remain floating longer. If there's fear of gamebreaking things (hiding behind wreck in cap etc.), I'd have no issue with their collision models being switched off after x-amount of time either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #4 Posted May 5, 2015 More variety of ships demise was often asked for in alpha. And it's still a good thing to do, floating and burning wrecks would be really nice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenith Beta Tester 658 posts Report post #5 Posted May 5, 2015 I do think magazine explosions should be a lot bigger, and I mean A LOT bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #6 Posted May 5, 2015 Agreed, this is certainly something I would like to see implemented eventually. Maybe some burning oil and debris on the surface too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ISFC] Ebusus Beta Tester 258 posts 5,688 battles Report post #7 Posted May 5, 2015 It would really be nice to see some crippled ships floating around. Out of action but still floating and adding to the ambiance. HMS Barham SMS Bluecher 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaplainDMK Players 299 posts 692 battles Report post #8 Posted May 5, 2015 Another bonus is that you need to dodge sinking ships. Prince of Wales for example had it's aim thrown off and had to turn towards the Bismarck and Prinz after it had to dodge the Hoods hulk. Plus huge magazine explosions like the Barham 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thlurp Beta Tester 463 posts 1,731 battles Report post #9 Posted May 5, 2015 and for example the huge narrow bridge part (of BB's) can be used as a last attempt huge missile to do damage to the enemy, for example to guide it to the enemy CV. no seriously, i thought some ships do still float? at least i thought i did hit a ship carcass with my torps once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #10 Posted May 5, 2015 and for example the huge narrow bridge part (of BB's) can be used as a last attempt huge missile to do damage to the enemy, for example to guide it to the enemy CV. no seriously, i thought some ships do still float? at least i thought i did hit a ship carcass with my torps once Probably caught on a piece of land Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jauser ∞ Beta Tester 33 posts 5,844 battles Report post #11 Posted May 5, 2015 and for example the huge narrow bridge part (of BB's) can be used as a last attempt huge missile to do damage to the enemy, for example to guide it to the enemy CV. no seriously, i thought some ships do still float? at least i thought i did hit a ship carcass with my torps once They float for about 5-15 seconds. What I like to see is: Sinking slowly for 5 minutes burning and having small explosions all arround when they die due to fire and shells Huge explosions tearing the ship apart with magazine and citadel hits Capzising for like 2-3 minutes when gone due to floding and torpedo impacts 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenith Beta Tester 658 posts Report post #12 Posted May 5, 2015 They float for about 5-15 seconds. What I like to see is: Sinking slowly for 5 minutes burning and having small explosions all arround when they die due to fire and shells Huge explosions tearing the ship apart with magazine and citadel hits Capzising for like 2-3 minutes when gone due to floding and torpedo impacts I'm guessing they do it for performance reasons, but it wouldn't hurt to give us an option or two. It's not as if everyone here is running on a cardboard box. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPUDS] Unintentional_submarine [SPUDS] Beta Tester 4,052 posts 8,765 battles Report post #13 Posted May 5, 2015 It would be awesome with magazine explosions and floating wrecks (for some, it would be bad it if were all ships). Magazine explosions should obviously emit heavy smoke, as so clearly visible from the battle of Jutland to Yamato's demise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jauser ∞ Beta Tester 33 posts 5,844 battles Report post #14 Posted May 5, 2015 I'm guessing they do it for performance reasons, but it wouldn't hurt to give us an option or two. It's not as if everyone here is running on a cardboard box. I agree with you, but a burning ship drifting trough a small channel blocking it and disturbing torpedo attacks on the zone would add to gameplay. Like a tank can be used for cover in WOT, not so usefull but still gamechanging Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhroX Beta Tester 210 posts 1,190 battles Report post #15 Posted May 5, 2015 Yeah, I'd love to see more variety of ship destruction with some having longer term effects. I also have to admit, I do find it funny when my ship sinks despite being in water so shallow she's beached herself.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ISFC] Ebusus Beta Tester 258 posts 5,688 battles Report post #16 Posted May 5, 2015 One could argue that if destroyed tanks can be kept around in WoT that a burned out floating wreck should not be such a strain to the system either. After the initial death animation with some extra smoke, explosions and debri flying around, a non sinking ship could take the form of a really burned out model of the killed ship. No extra smoke or explosions, just a nice dead ship upright or on its back, adding to the feel of the battle. And yes, killing a big ship in a strait could be a nice way of effectively blocking it for a while. Possibly also give the chance to give that wrecked ship a coup de grace via a torpedo in order to really sink it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jauser ∞ Beta Tester 33 posts 5,844 battles Report post #17 Posted May 5, 2015 One could argue that if destroyed tanks can be kept around in WoT that a burned out floating wreck should not be such a strain to the system either. After the initial death animation with some extra smoke, explosions and debri flying around, a non sinking ship could take the form of a really burned out model of the killed ship. No extra smoke or explosions, just a nice dead ship upright or on its back, adding to the feel of the battle. And yes, killing a big ship in a strait could be a nice way of effectively blocking it for a while. Possibly also give the chance to give that wrecked ship a coup de grace via a torpedo in order to really sink it. I like the idea of the coup the grace via a torpedo nice one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomName331 Beta Tester 29 posts 108 battles Report post #18 Posted May 5, 2015 +1 would be a cool feature. I already wondered where the capsizing animations, etc. were Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwolf1969 Beta Tester 105 posts 389 battles Report post #19 Posted May 5, 2015 I like the idea of a more spectacular magazine explosions. But having more things to sail into on some of the maps would make it very hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ISFC] Ebusus Beta Tester 258 posts 5,688 battles Report post #20 Posted May 7, 2015 Today I was destroyed while beached...seeing my ship sink in what must have been a few feet of water was quite funny. Like melting into the landscape. Having permanent or semi permanent wrecks would be such a great thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #21 Posted May 7, 2015 It would really be nice to see some crippled ships floating around. Out of action but still floating and adding to the ambiance. HMS Barham SMS Bluecher Forget about them... nothing beats the Roma. Anyway, I'm totally for bigger explosions when citadel'd, but as for the floating wrecks... not so sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crichten ∞ Alpha Tester 55 posts 5,853 battles Report post #22 Posted May 7, 2015 Yes please, I can only hope that due to this being Beta and that being quite the drain on the systems graphics. cpu and server wise they were going to sort it 'Soon' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ISFC] Ebusus Beta Tester 258 posts 5,688 battles Report post #23 Posted May 7, 2015 If they can have them in WoT, why not here? They also have catastrophic explosions with turrets flying off when the ammo gets hit. It should be just a matter of time. Roma took one of these Here USS Savannah taking another off Salerno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #24 Posted May 7, 2015 If they can have them in WoT, why not here? They also have catastrophic explosions with turrets flying off when the ammo gets hit. It should be just a matter of time. Roma took one of these Here USS Savannah taking another off Salerno Well, that feature took a while to be implemented in WoT... And USS Arizona took a modified 410mm artillery shell in the magazines, too. That was a pretty spectacular explosion, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OMPG] Hauptbahnhof Beta Tester 1,198 posts 5,570 battles Report post #25 Posted May 7, 2015 They float for about 5-15 seconds. What I like to see is: Sinking slowly for 5 minutes burning and having small explosions all arround when they die due to fire and shells Huge explosions tearing the ship apart with magazine and citadel hits Capzising for like 2-3 minutes when gone due to floding and torpedo impacts That would be perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
