[OGHF] BMARC_ [OGHF] Beta Tester 106 posts 15,730 battles Report post #1 Posted May 5, 2015 have WG missed and important era to warships, the age of sails and ships of the line. sail progressing into steam etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bl4ckh0g Weekend Tester 1,668 posts 33 battles Report post #2 Posted May 5, 2015 We'd need at least plus 10 tiers for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xmasbeer Beta Tester 56 posts 409 battles Report post #3 Posted May 5, 2015 Nah, they could start with the steampowered ironclads though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] BMARC_ [OGHF] Beta Tester 106 posts 15,730 battles Report post #4 Posted May 5, 2015 decades and decades of development, frigates, sloops,bomb ketches, ships of the line. grape shot, chain shot, carronades and not to mention the numerous sizes of guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhal Alpha Tester 5,609 posts 5,569 battles Report post #5 Posted May 5, 2015 decades and decades of development, frigates, sloops,bomb ketches, ships of the line. grape shot, chain shot, carronades and not to mention the numerous sizes of guns. We don't even have properly functioning armor mechanics. Anti aircraft fighting of all kinds are calculations without real game engine interactions, masked by few graphical effects. Ships can't have more than one kind controllable artillery, hence simplified Kawachi. No predreadnoughts or semi-dreadnoughts, no armored cruisers. No wind And so on... And you want age of sail with all it's gimmicks... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwolf1969 Beta Tester 105 posts 389 battles Report post #6 Posted May 5, 2015 There are other games out there to let you control sailing ships if you want. I like that this is based in the dreadnought age and up to WW2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Trainspite Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster 1,920 posts 4,621 battles Report post #7 Posted May 5, 2015 World of Sailships for wargamings 4th title? ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #8 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) have WG missed and important era to warships, the age of sails and ships of the line. sail progressing into steam etc. If you want a game about them, here [edited] As for mysef, I'm pretty much happy with the choice I have here. Edited May 6, 2015 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyWorm Alpha Tester 3,274 posts 832 battles Report post #9 Posted May 6, 2015 Please keep in mind that talking about other naval games is ok, as long as it is for purpose of comparison with WoWs, and it is tolerated up to a certain point. Posting direct links however is out of question, so dont do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumbleDerp Beta Tester 659 posts Report post #10 Posted May 6, 2015 There are quite a few games out there that have age of sail ships in a total war setting, some even with mmo action in a naval setting similar to WoWs. Those are your only clues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #11 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Great... because someone wanted something that from the beginning it's clear that it couldn't be in the game, instead of appreciating what we've got here, I get a warning... thanks a lot, the_british_admiral! Actually, it was also my fault, for foolishly jumping in without thinking if what I was doing was allowed... but seriously, can't we just appreciate what we got? We have a really good game forming right under our eyes... instead of being thankful, why start complaining because it doesn't include ships from the Battle of Actium? Edited May 6, 2015 by Historynerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vogel Alpha Tester 2,062 posts 4,171 battles Report post #12 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) [edited] Edited May 8, 2015 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #13 Posted May 6, 2015 There are quite a few games out there that have age of sail ships in a total war setting, some even with mmo action in a naval setting similar to WoWs. Those are your only clues I can do better, if you want to know you got to sit through blunthairedsith video's on youtube.. or did I get the name wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #14 Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) [edited] Nah, I was careless... I get the reasoning, so I don't complain about that. But seriously... hasn't a game which details many ships from the first half of the XXth century already enough on its shoulders? Why wishing for something so monumental (easier said and done, a game with detailed battles between ships of the line, ironclads and dreadnought-era warships)? Edited May 8, 2015 by BigBadVuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] BMARC_ [OGHF] Beta Tester 106 posts 15,730 battles Report post #15 Posted May 6, 2015 Great... because someone wanted something that from the beginning it's clear that it couldn't be in the game, instead of appreciating what we've got here, I get a warning... thanks a lot, the_british_admiral! Actually, it was also my fault, for foolishly jumping in without thinking if what I was doing was allowed... but seriously, can't we just appreciate what we got? We have a really good game forming right under our eyes... instead of being thankful, why start complaining because it doesn't include ships from the Battle of Actium? no one was complaining, just started the topic to open debate. what you decide to post is down to you. WoW is a great game and very much appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #16 Posted May 6, 2015 no one was complaining, just started the topic to open debate. what you decide to post is down to you. WoW is a great game and very much appreciated. Then why whine about its "missing and important era to warships, the age of sails and ships of the line. sail progressing into steam etc. "? It's completely useless because ships of the line and ironclads will never be in the game; and if you are posting this, then it means you don't appreciate it at 100%... Either way, you started a rather pointless thread, and we already have quite enough of them around here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] BMARC_ [OGHF] Beta Tester 106 posts 15,730 battles Report post #17 Posted May 6, 2015 Then why whine about its "missing and important era to warships, the age of sails and ships of the line. sail progressing into steam etc. "? It's completely useless because ships of the line and ironclads will never be in the game; and if you are posting this, then it means you don't appreciate it at 100%... Either way, you started a rather pointless thread, and we already have quite enough of them around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Sukebe Beta Tester 137 posts 80 battles Report post #18 Posted May 6, 2015 I actually think that WG made a really good choice by going with ships upto and include WW2. It's an interesting balance of guns and air-power. Just think about what a semi-realistic sailing ship game would be like: - Player well, in an open sea, both teams trying to get to an "upwind" position for tactial advantage. You might spend an hour just doing that - No "rock, paper, scissors" equivalent here. So no air-power, torpedoes, guns", just a bunch of ships with VERY similar firepower and capability. Then you'd had the setting. You'd have - The French have the best ships, but average crews - The Spanish have the biggest ships, but drunk crews - The Brits field designs 10 years older, but with much better trained crews - The US get 4 ships, but then spend the next 100 years telling us how they won great victories, but turns out to only be a handful of victories against second rate ships - The Ruskis with no ships worth speaking of Who'd ever agree that that? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomer7 Beta Tester 153 posts 15,581 battles Report post #19 Posted May 6, 2015 Like other have said that would be way out of line for the scope of the game. Its like wanting war chariots for WOT. And even the era of the sailships was so long that games about that era often just cover a small part of it as the ships are just to different to make them somehow work together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #20 Posted May 6, 2015 Then why whine about its "missing and important era to warships, the age of sails and ships of the line. sail progressing into steam etc. "? It's completely useless because ships of the line and ironclads will never be in the game; and if you are posting this, then it means you don't appreciate it at 100%... Either way, you started a rather pointless thread, and we already have quite enough of them around here. While I fixed your neg rep, I would like to point out our god given right ( if there is such a thing as 'god' ) to make threads which to some others might seem pointless while actually being quite viable topics for this forum in some one else's eyes I know. I made one ( or two ) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #21 Posted May 6, 2015 While I fixed your neg rep, I would like to point out our god given right ( if there is such a thing as 'god' ) to make threads which to some others might seem pointless while actually being quite viable topics for this forum in some one else's eyes I know. I made one ( or two ) Well, alright, it's all subjective; but then I believe that have the right to express my thoughts, and if I wish to say that to open a thread complaining about the lack of ships of the line in the game is rather pointless in my opinion I can do so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #22 Posted May 6, 2015 Well, alright, it's all subjective; but then I believe that have the right to express my thoughts, and if I wish to say that to open a thread complaining about the lack of ships of the line in the game is rather pointless in my opinion I can do so. Off course, if freedom of speech entitles stupid subjects to be discussed, freedom of speech also guarantees that these subjects can be called stupid o7 I just think it should try to be less blunt then just saying: it's stupid. Then again, sometimes grabbing the bull by the horns is also not a bad thing... idk don't look at me for a moral compass I was just giving my 0.02 cents ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #23 Posted May 6, 2015 To be fair, I never used the word "stupid"; I said "pointless", which is different, as in there is no evident intention of insulting the person with whom you're talking. But yes, I admit I was rather sore about this, and I could've been more tactful... Didn't even thank you for the +1... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #24 Posted May 6, 2015 Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you said stupid, I just used stupid since it was the first which came to mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDEAL] dacorny Alpha Tester 41 posts 2,427 battles Report post #25 Posted May 6, 2015 Dont forget ancient naval warfare from greek vs persia, rome vs carthago and rome vs rome, ramming speed ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
