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What premium should i buy?

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  1. 1. What would you pick?

    • Loyang
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    • Sims
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    • Kidd
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Hello everybody :crab:,

 

My account will turn 1 year old tomorrow so i should get a 30% off coupon. 
Im planning to use this on doubloons so i can combine this with the 25% off coupon in the amory,
and I wanted to ask some advice about what ship to buy: Loyang, kidd or sims. 

 

I just unlocked the fletcher, and i love the benson (also my highest tier ship). I heard that the loyang
is more simulair to the benson than the kidd, but the kidd looks like good fun as well. 
The sims also looks like a very fun ship to me (and ideal for crew training),

but i need (a lot of) credits for the fletcher so a tier 7 might be a little less optimal. 

 

The downside of the loyang would be that i dont have a very high skilled captain for it (one with 8 skillpoints), 
but i also recently started grinding the PA DD line so it should make a good crew trainer. 

 

Wich one would you guys recommend?

 

thanks in advance !:cap_like:

 

Edit: i added a poll.

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Sims because it has the highest XP modifier, so even average games yield good XP income.

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Lo Yang because it's a good cap bully and can get close to smokescreens and pop hydro and wreck the enemy DD. 

It's basically a Benson with Hydro.

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... or Kidd because its one of the only DDs who can kill planes effectively, so you are most likely be left alone

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4 minutes ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

Hello everybody :crab:,

 

My account will turn 1 year old tomorrow so i should get a 30% off coupon. 
Im planning to use this on doubloons so i can combine this with the 25% off coupon in the amory,
and I wanted to ask some advice about what ship to buy: Loyang, kidd or sims. 

 

I just unlocked the fletcher, and i love the benson (also my highest tier ship). I heard that the loyang
is more simulair to the benson than the kidd, but the kidd looks like good fun as well. 
The sims also looks like a very fun ship to me (and ideal for crew training) but i need (a lot of) credits for the fletcher so a tier 7 might be a little less optimal. 

 

The downside of the loyang would be that i dont have a very high skilled captain for it (one with 8 skillpoints), 
but i also recently started grinding the PA DD line so it should make a good crew trainer. 

 

Wich one would you guys recommend?

 

thanks in advance !:cap_like:

 

ordinarily, looking at your battle count, I would have said dont buy any of them for a long time yet - but you're doing very well in the Benson, so you'll be fine in other high tier DDs as well I guess :-)

 

Problem is - none of these ships really play much like the Benson does, with its massive amount of flexibility.

Sims might be the closest, and still has its ridiculous XP modifier so makes for a great trainer, but it's mediocre at best as a torpedoboat. And yes, credit earnings at T7 are a bit lower than at T8, so there's that too...

Lo Yang gives up a lot of torpedo power as well as AA to get its (admittedly very powerful) Hydro, but with an 8pt captain you do not belong in high tier battles as a Destroyer one bit, so you'd either have to play the regular line a good chunk more, or use Lo Yang in coop (which it sucks at).

Kidd gives up even more torpedo power (one of, if not the single worst torpedo DD at T8), but gets even better AA than the Benson for it as well as a ridiculous amount of staying power through its heal. Very very good boat, just a lot more specialised than the Benson - and can feel very powerless against some targets because of how much you suck at torping...

 

 

Overall, I'd have to consider the Benson itself the best out of these ships for a relatively new player, just because of how flexible it is...

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I say Loyang. Hydro is very powerful on dds and it will be a different playstyle than Benson for a change.. 

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29 minutes ago, Hanse77SWE said:

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Sorry. Couldn't help myself.:Smile_trollface:

 

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USS Albany all the way :Smile_trollface:

Ok joking aside from the 3 you mentioned, i'd go Sims, but only because your doing the US DD line, and as was mentioned Sims is a good XP earner, otherwise it would be Loyang. :Smile_honoring:

Kidd is a Fletcher minus one torp launcher and improved AA but the kicker is the heal, so it has staying power, able to last longer. 

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17 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

USS Albany all the way :Smile_trollface:

Ok joking aside from the 3 you mentioned, i'd go Sims, but only because your doing the US DD line, and as was mentioned Sims is a good XP earner, otherwise it would be Loyang. :Smile_honoring:

Kidd is a Fletcher minus one torp launcher and improved AA but the kicker is the heal, so it has staying power, able to last longer. 

Well, he is playing DDs, so Smith would be the better option... :Smile_trollface:

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2 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Sims because it has the highest XP modifier, so even average games yield good XP income.

or

Lo Yang because it's a good cap bully and can get close to smokescreens and pop hydro and wreck the enemy DD. 

It's basically a Benson with Hydro.

Would sims be the best of the 3 to grind fXP? Or are they all about the same

 

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2 hours ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

Hello everybody :crab:,

 

My account will turn 1 year old tomorrow so i should get a 30% off coupon. 
Im planning to use this on doubloons so i can combine this with the 25% off coupon in the amory,
and I wanted to ask some advice about what ship to buy: Loyang, kidd or sims. 

 

I just unlocked the fletcher, and i love the benson (also my highest tier ship). I heard that the loyang
is more simulair to the benson than the kidd, but the kidd looks like good fun as well. 
The sims also looks like a very fun ship to me (and ideal for crew training),

but i need (a lot of) credits for the fletcher so a tier 7 might be a little less optimal. 

 

The downside of the loyang would be that i dont have a very high skilled captain for it (one with 8 skillpoints), 
but i also recently started grinding the PA DD line so it should make a good crew trainer. 

 

Wich one would you guys recommend?

 

thanks in advance !:cap_like:

 

Sims or Kidd, both being solid cap contesters, also full captain compatibility with Benson and next ships in the line.

 

Sims can see some use in Narai, tier 7 PvE Operation, but its... suboptimal pick most of the time. Kidd have no PvE luxury, but should be more than able to handle herself even when uptiered. I wouldn't rely on AA tho

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5 minutes ago, Panocek said:

 I wouldn't rely on AA tho

AA? What is AA?

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2 minutes ago, 22cm said:

AA? What is AA?

something that very few DDs have these days - but Kidd is among them. At least as long as you're not up against very good players (which are very rare) or T10 CVs (which are also not all that common these days)...

 

17 minutes ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

Would sims be the best of the 3 to grind fXP? Or are they all about the same

I'd say Sims' XP modifier is good enough that it's at least on par with the two T8s (but I dont really have any data to "prove" this)

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27 minutes ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

Would sims be the best of the 3 to grind fXP? Or are they all about the same

 

With Sims you can definitely earn more xp (free xp) for the same performance BUT Benson and Lo Yang has the concealment module slot, so its a lot more comfortable to play.

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In your case I'd say all 3 are good candidates. Looking at your stats I'd say you're a good player. Better than I am... If I might make a suggestion OP. Why buy a prem DD in a line you've almost finished? Perhaps a prem cruiser or BB might help you more out in other grinds? You seem to want to buy it with doubloons. Now I stand corrected if my suggestions aren't available for those and/ or if you have them already. But my alt suggestions would be: Atago, Massachusetts, Tirpitz or Leningrad.

 

Edit: OC I mean Sims and Kidd.

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20 minutes ago, Ferry_25 said:

In your case I'd say all 3 are good candidates. Looking at your stats I'd say you're a good player. Better than I am... If I might make a suggestion OP. Why buy a prem DD in a line you've almost finished? Perhaps a prem cruiser or BB might help you more out in other grinds? You seem to want to buy it with doubloons. Now I stand corrected if my suggestions aren't available for those and/ or if you have them already. But my alt suggestions would be: Atago, Massachusetts, Tirpitz or Leningrad.

  

Edit: OC I mean Sims and Kidd.

I wanted one of these because these look the most fun to me, i mainly want a premium for credit grinding. I do have the myoko and i do like the IJN DDs, but i dont like them as much as my dds. The russian dds are ok, im at the minsk. But again, i like my us dds more, so thats why im thinking about one of these.

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4 hours ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

Which one would you guys recommend?

It depends a lot on what you want to do with the thing:

  • Kidd: excellent (for a DD) AA, and the heal makes it very resilient; good trainer for your US DD captains; the loss of half your torps (compared to Benson etc) means you are reliant on team-mates shooting things you spot.
  • Sims: glorious in Dynamo Op if it ever returns; good trainer for your US DD captains; torps slow, but rather more helpful since the range was buffed; DefAA allows you to stand against CVs better than most DDs; my main gripe is concealment - it's a bit flaky in this regard (can't fit concealment mod).
  • Loyang: IMO the best of the three, mainly due to basically being C-Hull Benson with (cruiser) hydro - and an extra torp option (Benson torps, or faster 'YOLO' ones with a shorter range - I normally take the YOLO ones); the smoke/hydro combination can be extremely effective when enemy radar has gone (if there is any), although more people these days are effective at countering it; AA is 'good enough' although smoke/hydro set-up precludes DefAA (you can mount DefAA, but it sits in the same slot as hydro, so probably not a good idea).

That all assumes you have a good (or good enough) captain for all of them - at the tiers we're talking about, you basically need a *minimum* of ten points, and ideally rather more. Although my feeling is that Loyang is probably the best of the three (despite the increase in radar frequency these days), you'll almost certainly get better performance out of the Americans if you don't have a ten point PA captain (due to the loss of CE).

 

My overall suggestion would be to buy either of the US ones (Kidd is good for T8 competitive; Sims *perhaps* has an edge for randoms, given the tendency of random players to not shoot things that you spot) and use it - in conjunction with your silver ships - to get at least one captain to 19 points, by cycling the captain between the two to maximise daily first win bonuses. After that, all captain xp earned by that captain goes into the elite xp pot, which can be used for any other captain, so (if you want) it would enable you to get a captain up to the minimum level needed for Loyang, or whatever other premium you like that happens to come along (for future purchase via whatever currency).

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3 minutes ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

i mainly want a premium for credit grinding.

For this, you want whichever one you can consistently do the most damage with, as that is the key driver for rewards.

 

That might add some weight to getting one of the T8s, as competitive modes (Clans, especially) seem to be T8 more often than T7 and can be absurdly good earners.

 

BTW suggest you join a clan - besides being able to access Clan Battles (when they're at tiers that you have ships at), most established clans will have a base that gives economic bonuses to boost your earnings and/or reduce costs. Clans can also enable the earning of steel which can unlock a number of higher tier premiums with excellent earning potential (if you earn enough of it, which requires being quite good, which I'm not!).

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Problem with the Lo Yang is that the PA line effectively ends at T7 so its utility as a trainer is limited.

 

In terms of the others, you might be better off spending the money directly on flags, cammo etc and retrain for 500 gold per time, you should be able to get your captain up to 19 points pretty quickly if you do that.

 

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4 hours ago, Fast_Free_Shipping said:

My account will turn 1 year old tomorrow so i should get a 30% off coupon. 
Im planning to use this on doubloons so i can combine this with the 25% off coupon in the amory,
and I wanted to ask some advice about what ship to buy: Loyang, kidd or sims. 

 

I don't think any of these ships are available for doubloons, they need to be paid for in cash at the premium shop.

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39 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

use it - in conjunction with your silver ships - to get at least one captain to 19 points, by cycling the captain between the two to maximise daily first win bonuses. After that, all captain xp earned by that captain goes into the elite xp pot, which can be used for any other captain, so (if you want) it would enable you to get a captain up to the minimum level needed for Loyang, or whatever other premium you like that happens to come along (for future purchase via whatever currency).

Really thanks for this important tip. :cap_like:

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24 minutes ago, neorvo said:

Really thanks for this important tip. :cap_like:

My pleasure! It's worth mentioning that the effect snowballs too: each 19 pointer that you gain speeds up the next one, and so on.

 

This is why I tend to suggest that if someone is going to only get one or two premium ships it's sensible to get ones that match with their respective silver line ships; the 'weird build' premiums can be great fun, but are not usually an effective use of your spend if you don't have at least a few 'matching' ones already.

 

A real example from my account: I have several premiums that match the US silver DD line (including both Kidd and Sims from this discussion); I used these to get the captain who ended up on Gearing to 19 points; when the Ovenchicken unique captain turned up, with his magic SE, I got him to 19 points and used him to replace my existing 19 pointer (he actually took over Gearing at about 16 points for most battles to maximise captain xp earned when I didn't absolutely need a 19 pointer); the old 19 pointer then got transferred to MA (a 'weird build' premium, at least until Georgia got released) with a free re-spec courtesy of clans or something; I'm now generating elite xp from both my various US DDs that Ovenchicken fits in (so Gearing and all the premiums) and whenever I play MA, which is being funnelled into whichever captains I need to advance next.

 

Unless you have all the time in the world, and/or don't get bored, it's always worth having at least half an eye on things you can do to maximise the return on your playing time; the whole 19 point captain thing is one of the more effective ways of doing that.

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I would consider that the Sims has a very big ( 6.6km if i remember right ) concealment. Some DD's in her tier range can outspot her more than a kilometer. I have all 3 , and i like the Lo Yang the most.

 

 

PS. If you started the PA line, maybe you should consider the Anshan too, after making your decision about the higher tier ships. She is the cheapest T6 DD, has a +100% FXP bonus in her camo, and she's still one of the best T6 DD around.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

It is Benson with Hydro.

FTFY.:Smile_honoring:

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4 minutes ago, K82J said:

I would consider that the Sims has a very big ( 6.6km if i remember right ) concealment. Some DD's in her tier range can outspot her more than a kilometer.

This is a very valid point; I would mention though that it arguably matters rather less these days than it did - with plenty of CVs about, the loss of stealth hit Sims less than many other DDs (basically almost everything balanced around stealth). If you're spotted much of the time by planes, who cares if you're a little tubby?

 

That said, if there are no planes present, Sims is pretty much boned in any spotting contest with other DDs. If CV numbers plummet again, then the 6.6 km concealment will matter a lot more again.

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