[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #1 Posted October 16, 2019 Next clan battle season will be 8v8 t10 with 2 battleships a side, no carriers. It was announced yesterday, i was surprised that no one has created a topic about it yet, so here it is. What comps do you guys think will be meta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #2 Posted October 16, 2019 nine Smolensks rush B gogogo? But you can probably look at KotS and get a good enough idea - something like those lineups minus one cruiser or DD 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyopicHedgehog ∞ Players 645 posts 9,404 battles Report post #3 Posted October 16, 2019 Eh - Kremlin, Stalingrad & Smolensk - plus a DD... We're rather concerned that the 8v8 & T10 format is going to mean that we won't be able to field a team :( The T8 season was a great learning experience for us and it's sad that our regular active player count is so low that we may not be able to build upon that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #4 Posted October 16, 2019 Double bb will change the dynamics significantly. Instead of one bb sitting mid you will have either one bb on both flanks having crossfires pretty much everywhere.. Or... The epic double Kremlin push. Eitherway: good luck to all small clans who are already having difficulties fielding six players let alone eight. And to all medium clans who instead of needing 12 players for two teams now need 16 players.... 3 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #5 Posted October 16, 2019 Id say Stalingrad will lose on importance somewhat although not completely OFC, the strongest thing Grad ever brought in the CW meta was "almost BB stats in a cruiser slot" that will now be taken by a real BB, Thunderor, Ohio, Kreml and Yama will be the BBs of choice me thinks due to the fact they can overmatch the cruiser decks specifically the Desmo, Henri, Yoshino and Smolensk that will largely plague the MM up to the Strom league at least, DDs will be standard mixture of usual spotters/torpers and the Kleber i think and people that are good in the Kleber will be able to exert some strong influence in the matches as was shown in the T8 season with the Fantasque the killer torps that Kleber has and the MBRB will allow him to strike anything and despite not so good conceal it still has the option to do it more then any cruiser ever could in the same time not being afraid of meeting other dds... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Gebe_ Players 360 posts 12,280 battles Report post #6 Posted October 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: But you can probably look at KotS and get a good enough idea - something like those lineups minus one cruiser or DD Yup, just check out the KOTS set-ups for current CB meta. Kremlins, Smolensks, Stalingrads, some Henris/Yoshinos/Hindens, and then the usual radar cruisers and DDs. Might meet some Colberts as well, but I doubt many will have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #7 Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Gebe_ said: Yup, just check out the KOTS set-ups for current CB meta. Kremlins, Smolensks, Stalingrads, some Henris/Yoshinos/Hindens, and then the usual radar cruisers and DDs. Might meet some Colberts as well, but I doubt many will have them. I dont think Colbert will be a popular choice even with those that have it due to the fact its a very fragile ship with not so good long range ballistics, some might capitalize on the fact people are not used to counter it (still) BUT I dont expect seeing her much past Storm, Smol with the smoke is much more flexible choice IMHO and also easier to get your hands on also she has better long range gunnery, additionally since she can smoke herself in the open and/or retreat through smoke she is harder to pin down... Yes Colbert has speed and good DPM but its not easy to fire guns accurately while evading fire, Henry can do it but she has to stay in a predictable path only once every 10s or so to fire while Colbert has to fire all the time, there are maps with islands OFC but again she doesnt bring any special tool to the fray... Since the season will go past 0.8.10 Venezia might play a role in the late season as well with those damaging alpha strikes and will certainly be present in the Rank T10 to a great extent as she can demolish any DD or CL in couple of salvos... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRM5_] Alcolista Beta Tester 219 posts 15,520 battles Report post #8 Posted October 16, 2019 What do you think about the incoming nerfs for the Kremlin and it's presence in CB? Atm Kremlin would be a no brainer but after the nerf it could lose some of its presence... especially if WG screws up touching its penetration parameters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trawn91 Players 56 posts 2,843 battles Report post #9 Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alcolista said: What do you think about the incoming nerfs for the Kremlin and it's presence in CB? Atm Kremlin would be a no brainer but after the nerf it could lose some of its presence... especially if WG screws up touching its penetration parameters... Well, Kremlin is stupid for its armor. Pen values are jusk icying on the cake :) This "nerf" is really silly and it wont change anything. It´s sole purpose is to appeal to the masses who are calling for nerf. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,889 battles Report post #10 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Yedwy said: ince the season will go past 0.8.10 Venezia might play a role in the late season as well with those damaging alpha strikes I think tiers IX and X of the italian cruisers are not coming... until the end of the seaons I guess.. but I may be very well mistaken :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SVX] albin322 Players 1,850 posts 20,871 battles Report post #11 Posted October 16, 2019 tbh i dont think smolensk will be that good in cb to mutch radar and so on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EST] Profilus [EST] Players 1,859 posts 35,623 battles Report post #12 Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, albin322 said: tbh i dont think smolensk will be that good in cb to mutch radar and so on. Not if eveeyone picks smol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SVX] albin322 Players 1,850 posts 20,871 battles Report post #13 Posted October 16, 2019 2 bbs and 3 radars = dead smolensks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,998 battles Report post #14 Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, albin322 said: 2 bbs and 3 radars = dead smolensks You do realize that smolensk can be out of radar range? Take a look at Kots and how smolensk came really strong in that meta. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRM5_] Alcolista Beta Tester 219 posts 15,520 battles Report post #15 Posted October 16, 2019 is it sure it will be 2 BBs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #16 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Alcolista said: What do you think about the incoming nerfs for the Kremlin and it's presence in CB? Atm Kremlin would be a no brainer but after the nerf it could lose some of its presence... especially if WG screws up touching its penetration parameters... 1k less AP damage on the shell upon hitting a citadel. Some nerfs to its HE that I don't see anyone using. Will remain a common pick for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #17 Posted October 16, 2019 58 minutes ago, Excavatus said: I think tiers IX and X of the italian cruisers are not coming... until the end of the seaons I guess.. but I may be very well mistaken :) CW season will (probably) stretch into 0.8.10 patch. So Venezia could make in the last week or two of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Excavatus said: I think tiers IX and X of the italian cruisers are not coming... until the end of the seaons I guess.. but I may be very well mistaken :) Well the article said 23th of October up to 9 of December? Following the current interval the patch 0.8.10 should be 14th November ergo some time left... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Gebe_ Players 360 posts 12,280 battles Report post #19 Posted October 16, 2019 6 hours ago, albin322 said: tbh i dont think smolensk will be that good in cb to mutch radar and so on. Smolensk is probably the most versatile of all DPM options. Hence pretty much every KOTS team ran at least one or (very often) two Smolensks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-F-K] Mydgard Players 237 posts 15,088 battles Report post #20 Posted October 17, 2019 2 Kremlin 2 Stalin 2 Smolensk 2 Grozovoi 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #21 Posted October 17, 2019 15 hours ago, albin322 said: tbh i dont think smolensk will be that good in cb to mutch radar and so on. 19km range, good luck radaring me... 16 hours ago, Alcolista said: What do you think about the incoming nerfs for the Kremlin and it's presence in CB? Atm Kremlin would be a no brainer but after the nerf it could lose some of its presence... especially if WG screws up touching its penetration parameters... I think it still overmatches the deck and still has the stupid armor, glorious battleship of the people of the soviet union laughs at the imperialst propaganda that it was nerfed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,421 battles Report post #22 Posted October 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Alcolista said: What do you think about the incoming nerfs for the Kremlin and it's presence in CB? Atm Kremlin would be a no brainer but after the nerf it could lose some of its presence... especially if WG screws up touching its penetration parameters... What nerfs? Miniscule reduction in AP Damage and HE Damage? That doesn't influence her Performance by much, it might drag down her random Spreedsheet Values but not her Potential. Probelem with Kremlins is they sorely lack the range and i read push all the time while no one really considders the Crossfires you now can establish with 1 stalin and 2 bbs.... there are so many dark horses not mentioned :x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,889 battles Report post #23 Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Mydgard said: 2 Kremlin 2 Stalin 2 Smolensk 2 Grozovoi 2DDs weren't an option after passing storm. and I don't think it would change in 8v8. May be no DD teams in hurricane will add 1 DD as an extra.. we'll see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #24 Posted October 17, 2019 And small clans will suffer more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,998 battles Report post #25 Posted October 17, 2019 What I dont get is why they used an 8v8 format after the fact that each season less and less clans are playing clan wars. This only makes it harder for more players and clans to enter clan battles. 6v6 was nice and 7v7 was perfect. I hope that wont influence the season too much unlike the failure that was t8 clan wars. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
