[FABER] Bics93 [FABER] Players 422 posts 4,997 battles Report post #1 Posted October 12 Today, for the first time since I installed WOWs, I played 2 tier 10 matches with only 2-3 BBs per side, it seems that finally WG achieved his goal of reducing BB numbers, all thanks to one little ship 34 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 19,448 posts 12,225 battles Report post #2 Posted October 12 That was just luck. BB population was lower after the CV rework und during US Cruiser split. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] ForlornSailor Players 4,370 posts 7,987 battles Report post #3 Posted October 12 Solution: play mid tiers. There you have games with 2 Cruisers now, because CVs and BBs are best buddies there. And thats why looking at average numbers tells you very little about the state of the game in specific tiers @ColonelPete ... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FABER] Bics93 [FABER] Players 422 posts 4,997 battles Report post #4 Posted October 12 8 minuti fa, ColonelPete ha scritto: That was just luck. BB population was lower after the CV rework und during US Cruiser split. I know, I was just joking I usually appreciate your commitment to refute the [edited] with data, but in this case it was not necessary. Mea culpa, I will remember to write "/ s" for those without sense of humor 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 3,657 posts 245 battles Report post #5 Posted October 12 Regardless i laughed to hard at the picture lol. I need to use gimp more for memes. I seem to see a lot of cruisers doe, sometimes even 5 a side DD's (seems kinda common recently). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FABER] Bics93 [FABER] Players 422 posts 4,997 battles Report post #6 Posted October 12 1 minuto fa, CptBarney ha scritto: I seem to see a lot of cruisers doe, sometimes even 5 a side DD's (seems kinda common recently). Yeah, 4-5 DDs per side happened a lot in the last days, they usually are quite difficult matches because you have to kill something fast before all 44% win rate destroyers on your team suicide by getting torped in their smoke 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 3,657 posts 245 battles Report post #7 Posted October 12 Just now, Bics93 said: Yeah, 4-5 DDs per side happened a lot in the last days, they usually are quite difficult matches because you have to kill something fast before all 44% win rate destroyers on your team suicide by getting torped in their smoke Drives me up the bloody wall when that happens especially in my georgia, couldn't even push D because our DD's refused to spot theirs (we had more stealthy dd's) and they had 3 hovering around the bloody cap spamming torps. Yeah we lost that game. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 19,448 posts 12,225 battles Report post #8 Posted October 12 15 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: Solution: play mid tiers. There you have games with 2 Cruisers now, because CVs and BBs are best buddies there. And thats why looking at average numbers tells you very little about the state of the game in specific tiers @ColonelPete ... Just look at the right stats. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,004 posts 5,840 battles Report post #9 Posted October 12 Smolensksksksksks... ks, are easy prey for Heavy Cruisers. And personally i dont mind them that much in BBs. I mean yea sure theres 16 shells raining on you every 3 seconds, but just calm down bro they're only 130mm and only can do so much. IMO Smolensk is our new OP Kutuzov. If anyone remembers back in the day when Kutuzovs used to roam the battlefields spamming HE from smoke at 20km or so. EDIT: nm bring a smolensk to mid tiers pls.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] mtm78 Alpha Tester 18,645 posts 6,078 battles Report post #10 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, Srle_Vigilante said: Disgusting, I bet the Nurnberg / Furutaka / Koningsberg and De Grasse had a blast with 5 enemy BB's. Ow wait, that wasn't the point right 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] kfa Beta Tester 1,214 posts 8,842 battles Report post #11 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, Srle_Vigilante said: Smolensksksksksks... ks, are easy prey for Heavy Cruisers. And personally i dont mind them that much in BBs. I mean yea sure theres 16 shells raining on you every 3 seconds, but just calm down bro they're only 130mm and only can do so much. IMO Smolensk is our new OP Kutuzov. If anyone remembers back in the day when Kutuzovs used to roam the battlefields spamming HE from smoke at 20km or so. EDIT: nm bring a smolensk to mid tiers pls.... there you go mate 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 566 posts 10,523 battles Report post #12 Posted October 12 2 hours ago, ColonelPete said: That was just luck. BB population was lower after the CV rework und during US Cruiser split. Out of curiosity, where do you get that data from? There seems so be quite a bit of correlation. I'd love to take a closer look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 19,448 posts 12,225 battles Report post #13 Posted October 12 1 minute ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: Out of curiosity, where do you get that data from? There seems so be quite a bit of correlation. I'd love to take a closer look. Well, the sum of all graphs has to be 1. I take the weekly stats from here: http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20191012/eu_week/average_class.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 566 posts 10,523 battles Report post #14 Posted October 12 Just now, ColonelPete said: Well, the sum of all graphs has to be 1. I take the weekly stats from here: http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20191012/eu_week/average_class.html You manually append the weekly data to your time series? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 19,448 posts 12,225 battles Report post #15 Posted October 12 Just now, HMS_Kilinowski said: You manually append the weekly data to your time series? Yes, I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 566 posts 10,523 battles Report post #16 Posted October 12 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: Yes, I do. That's what I call dedication. Ofc it's a bit unfortunate, that the maplesyrup data seems to be a bit neglected. At least they haven't realized over a period of more than 2 years there is a new french nation, not to speak of the more exotic nations and the new pan-Eurpean and soon to come italian-line. I am not arguing any of your statements, but there is potential for bias. DD ratio could be higher due to the recently added french DDs. CV ratio is lower, as all other lines are missing french ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22cm Beta Tester 4,672 posts 20,298 battles Report post #17 Posted October 12 4 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: That's what I call dedication. Ofc it's a bit unfortunate, that the maplesyrup data seems to be a bit neglected. At least they haven't realized over a period of more than 2 years there is a new french nation, not to speak of the more exotic nations and the new pan-Eurpean and soon to come italian-line. I am not arguing any of your statements, but there is potential for bias. DD ratio could be higher due to the recently added french DDs. CV ratio is lower, as all other lines are missing french ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 19,448 posts 12,225 battles Report post #18 Posted October 12 5 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: That's what I call dedication. Ofc it's a bit unfortunate, that the maplesyrup data seems to be a bit neglected. At least they haven't realized over a period of more than 2 years there is a new french nation, not to speak of the more exotic nations and the new pan-Eurpean and soon to come italian-line. I am not arguing any of your statements, but there is potential for bias. DD ratio could be higher due to the recently added french DDs. CV ratio is lower, as all other lines are missing french ships. The nations and ships are all included. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-W-C] MacArthur92 [P-W-C] Players 4,923 posts 27,404 battles Report post #19 Posted October 12 4 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Just look at the right stats. But it says T7+. It should be for T8+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 566 posts 10,523 battles Report post #20 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, ColonelPete said: The nations and ships are all included. So they are just not included in the query? http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/ShipAvgList/ShipAvgList.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asalonen Players 439 posts 8,875 battles Report post #21 Posted October 12 5 hours ago, ColonelPete said: BB population was lower after the CV rework und during US Cruiser split I'm baffled by this. Just by personal experience, CV numbers have recovered a lot during the last couple of patches? You get a lot of games with 4 CV's in mid-tiers. Yet the numbers from Maple Syrup seem to show near-constant low numbers in the last couple of months? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CATS] ColonelPete Players 19,448 posts 12,225 battles Report post #22 Posted October 12 21 minutes ago, asalonen said: I'm baffled by this. Just by personal experience, CV numbers have recovered a lot during the last couple of patches? You get a lot of games with 4 CV's in mid-tiers. Yet the numbers from Maple Syrup seem to show near-constant low numbers in the last couple of months? This is Tier VII+, Tier VI and IV CV are not included. When you look at Tier I to VI, CV had 8,06% last week, nearly fourtimes the relative numbers of high Tier CV. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 569 posts 7,146 battles Report post #23 Posted Sunday at 08:42 AM What is the problem with BB overpopulation? Thats where the most damage comes from! Also be careful for what you wish there are some rumors that yamato will get buffed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 7,368 posts 9,168 battles Report post #24 Posted Sunday at 09:08 AM 17 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said: What is the problem with BB overpopulation? Thats where the most damage comes from! Also be careful for what you wish there are some rumors that yamato will get buffed! WG admitted "BB overpopulation" around introduction of German BBs back in 2016. Measures WG did to counteract that: *cue cricket sound* When WG admitted "DD overpopulation" in early 2019 they immediately rolled MM rule to softcap destroyers to 4 per team. And while its easy to farm nice damage numbers on BBs, killing one for actual game impact can be extraordinarily hard, even more so when its piloted by someone with two cells instead usual one. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FABER] Bics93 [FABER] Players 422 posts 4,997 battles Report post #25 Posted Sunday at 09:13 AM 30 minuti fa, Animalul2012 ha scritto: there are some rumors that yamato will get buffed! Interesting, any info or source about this matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
