Daring Help

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

On 10/11/2019 at 10:42 PM, Duecut said:

I've been having allot of trouble with the Daring, Jutland I couldn't get to grips with radar cruisers, but the Daring I just couldn't even manage without Radar cruisers in the match.

 

Anyway after watching some of Flamu's youtube video's I think I've managed a few games reasonably well. To translate "Well" I've cause damage, sunk ships and capped objectives (so I'm happier)

 

Anyway to the help that I need. With all the other ships I use the wiki page for commander recommendations, but for some reason these recommendations don't exist for the Daring. 

 

So the image shows what I currently have, for all you daring players out there what would you recommend?

 

 

Follow Flamus cap build and just watch more Daring videos on yt.

[pif_paf_yoyoyo]

8 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Kinda this. While Daring can be extraordinary tool for colonizing on sight, very unforgiving and outright unfun nature of T10 only games means Jutland is simply more fun.

Agree, i felt that difference after some hundred battles in Daring... but now need a captain for Jutland, because i retrained.

 

Now my build is 

 

1 PT

2 AR, LS

3 SE, BFT

4 RPF, CE

 

But radars are still big problem... you just cant trying to dogfight with another DD, somewhere near is a radar cruiser, or CV coming... this is not fun, this is stress (

[thisismalacoda]

Vor 1 Stunde, Gong_ER sagte:

Pano are you sure? I know that it can pen 19mm now. Cuz above 18.5mm?

This thread is old, from before the IFHE rework.

[Panocek]

6 minutes ago, pif_paf_yoyoyo said:

Agree, i felt that difference after some hundred battles in Daring... but now need a captain for Jutland, because i retrained.

 

Now my build is 

 

1 PT

2 AR, LS

3 SE, BFT

4 RPF, CE

 

But radars are still big problem... you just cant trying to dogfight with another DD, somewhere near is a radar cruiser, or CV coming... this is not fun, this is stress (

Only DDs that can actually hope to extract themselves out of radar range are french and maybe russian. Rest have to figure out some hard cover because usually radar will run out of duration before you get out of range

[zedeIeyici]

11 minutes ago, thisismalacoda said:

This thread is old, from before the IFHE rework.

Yeah, frak me:) Im old 2.

[pif_paf_yoyoyo]

9 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Only DDs that can actually hope to extract themselves out of radar range are french and maybe russian. Rest have to figure out some hard cover because usually radar will run out of duration before you get out of range

Sad, but true (

 

No matter what im doing in Daring... there are only Defeat, Defeat, Defeat... without end (((

[Max_Kammerer]

19 minutes ago, pif_paf_yoyoyo said:

Sad, but true (

 

No matter what im doing in Daring... there are only Defeat, Defeat, Defeat... without end (((

I have the same problem with Z-52 (19p captain inside...) :D - it is probably cursed ship for me, but Z-46 is OK 

 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Daring is one of my T10 that I got and moved to some other line after.

 

Definitely waiting for my attention... Its just collecting dust atm

 

As for skills I have PM, AR, LS, SE, SI, CE and RPF.

 

Imho SI > BFT.

You dakka from smoke mainly, so having extra smoke, heal and hydro is more valuable.

 

 

[Max_Kammerer]

10 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

As for skills I have PM, AR, LS, SE, SI, CE and RPF.

Imho SI > BFT.

You dakka from smoke mainly, so having extra smoke, heal and hydro is more valuable.

etched in stone, Sir...

the same build for Jutland-Daring captains (questionable is only PT/PM in teh first line, I have PT in Daring and PM in Jutland... who knows what is better : ) )

[RenamedUser_92906789]

1 hour ago, Max_Kammerer said:

etched in stone, Sir...

the same build for Jutland-Daring captains (questionable is only PT/PM in teh first line, I have PT in Daring and PM in Jutland... who knows what is better : ) )

With my luck a shell hitting the water two ship lengths from me breaks my engine, imobilizes my rudder and breaks all my torpedo tubes. Reason I always take PM over PT... except on Khabba ... I think.

[Duecut]

On 6/10/2020 at 12:49 PM, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said:

Follow Flamus cap build and just watch more Daring videos on yt.

Erm that’s a bit of an old message but thanks all the same, I’ve been using the daring for sometime now and have got to grips with it.

 

 

[_Teob_]

I guess I am not gonna close this despite the 6 month+ necro but I will at least move it to the Destroyer sub-forum.

 

PSA: SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS THREAD IS NO LONGER VALID

[_DeathWing_]

9 hours ago, _Teob_ said:

PSA: SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS THREAD IS NO LONGER VALID

Yep, like you don't need that IFHE since the change so instead of that you can get RPF now.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

21 hours ago, Duecut said:

Erm that’s a bit of an old message but thanks all the same, I’ve been using the daring for sometime now and have got to grips with it.

 

 

 

Cool guys never look at explosions ....... or post dates ........ 

[Rhineheart_Thor]

On 6/10/2020 at 11:58 AM, pif_paf_yoyoyo said:

In my Experience, Darin is one of worst on his level...DPM good, but in Tier X realities, Daring sucks because of his slow speed and big hull... i just dont get this playstyle, in most cases, you cant play lone wolf, because of CVs and Radar. But lemmingtrain is also not best option. 

 

OK very nice, Now where is My Gearing ?

[Hirohito]

On 6/10/2020 at 11:58 AM, pif_paf_yoyoyo said:

In my Experience, Darin is one of worst on his level...DPM good, but in Tier X realities, Daring sucks because of his slow speed and big hull... i just dont get this playstyle, in most cases, you cant play lone wolf, because of CVs and Radar. But lemmingtrain is also not best option. 

I really like my Daring (my favourite ship), but yeah she struggles hard when there are multiple radar ships.
She can't disengage fast enough (even if you disengage at the max range after trying to bait it), so you can be caught out pretty fast and leaves less room for error compared to faster DDs.
She also has that issue of 12,8km guns and 10 km torps, so in CBs especially (where there currently are at least 3 soviet 12km radars per game), you get some very limited options to work off.
I still like her and have found some ways to work around it, but it can be very frustrating if you are facing a flank that has good cooperation with radar cycling and where the enemy DDs don't get caught out alone but screen ahead within radar range cover.
You don't really have the speed to quickly change positions either, so if you are stuck on a bad flank you are  kind of forced to deal with it to a bigger extent than other DDs.