New CV lines.....

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Is it possible to have maybe a German or Russian CV line, maybe an Italian one too? 

 

knowing how creative WG are at dreaming things up, and at how gullible we are at loving these made up things, I think the would make a nice line t grind for the successive nations mentioned.

[kfa]

I am pretty sure a MIG based russian carrier is possible on Kremlin hull. 

Would be T8 of course. 

[Hanse77SWE]

More CVs = more reasons to leave the game. 

[El2aZeR]

13 minutes ago, kfa said:

Would be T8 of course. 

 

Clearly overtiered. Must be T4. 

[1MajorKoenig]

2 hours ago, NoobySkooby said:

Is it possible to have maybe a German or Russian CV line, maybe an Italian one too? 

 

knowing how creative WG are at dreaming things up, and at how gullible we are at loving these made up things, I think the would make a nice line t grind for the successive nations mentioned.

 

After having seen the Russian BB line anything is possible really 

 

For Germany it’s relatively easy:

 

T4 Ausonia 

T6 Weser

T8 Graf Z Sister 

T10 Fantasy as usual

 

Russia is easy as well:

 

T4 Kiev with Yak VTOLs

T6 Gorshkov with modern Yaks

T8 Kusnetzov with MiG29

T10 Type 23000 with Su33

 

Straight forward actually.

 

However I could easily see that WG rather makes some of these premiums rather than additional lines. They usually try to give any new line a flavour - something they would currently struggle with (apart from the Russian Line which would have the distinct flavour of being 30-50 years more modern and advanced)

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

What about finishing the rework first?

[159Hunter]

1 hour ago, LemonadeWarrior said:

What about finishing the rework first?

Haven't you heard? Reeeeeeework is finished. Do try to keep up old chap.

 

And no, I don't think new CV lines are coming anytime soon. Why? Subs first and if they manage to get a higher population on subs than CVs they'll invest time and money in those (rather than the failed CVs)

 

@1MajorKoenig your information isn't up to date either , how dare you propose Su33 for tier X, cleary a Su57 is needed there (with stealth technology that is)/

[mtm78]

Both CV's and submarines already are a total failure, and that's leaving out how toxic it will be when destroyers just ignore submarines since they weren't grinded or bought to go chase circles with.... 

 

edit: I find you boring as well @Greyshark don't worry

[1MajorKoenig]

Just now, mtm78 said:

Both CV's and submarines already are a total failure, and that's leaving out how toxic it will be when destroyers just ignore submarines since they weren't grinded or bought to go chase circles with.... 

 

Isn’t this circle BS gone in the second iteration?

[mtm78]

So if there are no circles how else would I know where WG wants me to sail my ship? And it's not even the dumb representation, it's the whole concept which is stupid and flawed.

 

Submarines were not part of combined fleet operations, and in the ONE exception they were involved it still took moving on the surface during an entire night to get into a launch position by dawn... after already been laying in ambush for who knows how long. 

 

Subs in WWII were intended to disrupt enemy shipping primarily, depict that in some nice scenario gameplay and stop this absolute unhistorical crap they are trying to shove down our throats because some fungus seemed to have thought having submarines would be 'fun'. 

 

 

[Padds01]

yeah russian CV can you imagine what they would come up with for that. take a Kremlin remove the citadel to make room for the suite of rooms the ghost of stalin will reside in and his ghostly hand will deliver to the target  , "stalinium guided bombs" that materialise within the hull of the enemy ship and as it doesnt need to mess around with planes , keep the guns and armour well thats t8 covered!

[iFax]

You forget the Akula escorts...

 

 

[Capra76]

4 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Clearly overtiered. Must be T4. 

 

Carefull please, that might even compete with Hosho for "balance".

[1MajorKoenig]

51 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

So if there are no circles how else would I know where WG wants me to sail my ship

 

I am not part of the Beta but I have seen the announcement that now ships are supposed to have hydrophones and manual depth charge drops. Sounds like a step in the right direction.

 

Overall Story about subs though. Well let’s see

[LoveYouTooBuddy]

Sure why not...

I've seen posts like this one before with suggestions even.

Here you go, one of them.

Feel free to look up for more info if you want.

[CptBarney]

Probs be germans then russians, then french and italians.

 

Maybe tier 9 russian musashi as well.

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

1 hour ago, mtm78 said:

So if there are no circles how else would I know where WG wants me to sail my ship? And it's not even the dumb representation, it's the whole concept which is stupid and flawed.

 

Submarines were not part of combined fleet operations, and in the ONE exception they were involved it still took moving on the surface during an entire night to get into a launch position by dawn... after already been laying in ambush for who knows how long. 

 

Subs in WWII were intended to disrupt enemy shipping primarily, depict that in some nice scenario gameplay and stop this absolute unhistorical crap they are trying to shove down our throats because some fungus seemed to have thought having submarines would be 'fun'. 

 

 

If WG were to implement PvP operations like convoy escort pitting DDs, CLs and CVEs protecting a civilian convoy against submarines it could work I think.

[Bear__Necessities]

Dear Gods. We do not need anymore CV’s.

[Fat_Maniac]

4 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

However I could easily see that WG rather makes some of these premiums rather than additional lines. They usually try to give any new line a flavour - something they would currently struggle with (apart from the Russian Line which would have the distinct flavour of being 30-50 years more modern and advanced)

The only real question for the T10 RU CV would be if WG will model the ocean going tug to shadow and sail alongside said CV, as happens at the moment with their only real life CV, because it's engines keep breaking down. 

[mtm78]

33 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said:

If WG were to implement PvP operations like convoy escort pitting DDs, CLs and CVEs protecting a civilian convoy against submarines it could work I think.

 

This wouldn't only work, it makes actual sense. More as having surface fleet engagements where subs are supposedly a dynamic responsive force working under the same chain of command as all the other classes. 

 

And besides that, I would find such scenario's immersive and in line with historical events. 

[invicta2012]

7 hours ago, NoobySkooby said:

Is it possible to have maybe a German or Russian CV line, maybe an Italian one too? 

A French one is possible (made of actual ships) but you'd have to ask what it would bring in terms of game play. Quite a lot of the visual appeal of CVs is seeing the famous planes: Swordfish, Stukas, Zeros and Dauntlesses - did France have any notable carrier based planes until the 60s and the Etendard? 

 

Edit: They're French. Of Course they were doing their own thing. Twin engined heavy torpedo bombers... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCAO_CAO.600

 

 

[lovelacebeer]

This is WG we are talking about they can always find some rough design ideas to make new CVs but for whole lines that's harder, the French and Germans have enough design ideas to make full lines. 

 

As we all know Russia of course had the best designs for everything so no dount we will get that in time.

 

Now whether we will get actual full lines that's harder to say CV gameplay is limited to a relatively small but very dedicated group of players is the effort of designing and modelling a whole line worth it, I guess WG have a spread sheet which will say if it's worth it or not. Personally I think it's more likely we will get more premium CVs in time tied to different nations. E.g. a lot of the Colossus class carriers ended up in the navies of the commonwealth countries, so those would sell fairly well in those cases. 

[Hopeless_Guppy]

4 hours ago, LemonadeWarrior said:

What about finishing the rework first?

That just might be 'Mission Impossible', lol

 

But German CV's.... Stuka's, yep definaltey at tier 4, lol

[Hopeless_Guppy]

39 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

A French one is possible (made of actual ships) but you'd have to ask what it would bring in terms of game play. Quite a lot of the visual appeal of CVs is seeing the famous planes: Swordfish, Stukas, Zeros and Dauntlesses - did France have any notable carrier based planes until the 60s and the Etendard? 

 

Edit: They're French. Of Course they were doing their own thing. Twin engined heavy torpedo bombers... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCAO_CAO.600

 

 

French CV, based on the Hull of the Republique, with those ever so awesome long range secondaries, that would give the GZ something to think about, at tier 8

 

 

C'mon WG you know you want my money,lol

[MyopicHedgehog]

2 hours ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said:

If WG were to implement PvP operations like convoy escort pitting DDs, CLs and CVEs protecting a civilian convoy against submarines it could work I think.

 

Agreed, make them historically accurate (as accurate as enjoyable & immersive gameplay will allow) too - especially in terms of ship composition.