The Yubari. Worth Some Coal?

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Hi guys,

 

still settling into this game and paid a visit to the Armory yesterday to see what I might be able to purchase with the various thingy's I've picked up along my WoW journey thus far such as coal and steel. Turns out, rather unsurprisingly, that I haven't picked up a whole lot of either, certainly nothing to tickle the price tag of some higher tier ships but as a noob, not being able to acquire a tier10 BB is probably not a bad thing!! 

 

So, there are a few ships within touching distance. I like my destroyers and to a lessor extent my cruisers. I've spotted a tier4 Japanese cruiser named the Yubari which to me reads like a person calling "Yo! Barry!" so to me the ship is Barry lol. In the description, WG describe it as a cruiser with features that make it the envy of most lower tier ships, such as being a stealthy hunter, destroyer like speed and agility along with being a deadly threat to enemy aircraft with it's very potent AA capabilities.

 

Now, I know WG well and their more than generous, somewhat untrue exaggerations of their premium vehicles from WoT. The camo rating on Barry doesn't read all that particularly great tbh, about twice that of a destroyer so it's not really looking in that sort of destroyer role if that was the selling angle. It does however, take an Aiming System Modification which significantly sharpens it's gunnery capability which has a relatively decent 13km(ish) range and fast(ish) reload so maybe it's supposed to be landing ranged shots? Probably makes sense since it doesn't appear to have any armor. Anyway, what do you guys know about this ship, is it worth it, has it been improved since those 4 year old reviews I've seen and is it worth the coal? The fact that it can be acquired for coal to me might suggest it isn't worth bothering with, since generally WG keep their really good stuff for cash only but maybe for tier4 casual games it's a bit a fun? I mean, what else is there worth spending coal on? Gotta spend it on something, I ain't collecting the stuff, but maybe there's a commander or some other ship worth saving the coal for.

[RAHJAILARI]

Fun little ship, it is.

 

Not very durable but has accurate, relatively long range guns for its tier and is nimble. Torps are effective but have terrible firing angles and are also short range (only 6km) so do not purposely try to torpedo-boat with it, use them for emergencies only. Decent base AA + DefAA consumable (the only one at tier 4 to have it) with 3 reloads if you max it out (prem consumable + Superintendent skill + mount the AA signal flag) and that is definitely worth doing since many of the battles you will be in are going to have 2 CV's in them. It is equally fragile to Kuma, so WASD a lot, try to keep your distance and use island cover where possible. Reasonably good at killing DD's if you manage to keep all 4 guns on target and also good for setting fires (take DE skill) so I have no complaints at all. Have very much enjoyed playing it, in fact.

 

 

[mtm78]

Yubari is a port queen. The AA is laughable ever since the IJN 25mm AA nerf after which they gave it DFAA... which by far does not make up for what she lost.

 

The guns are not just 'accurate', together with the DFAA upgrade Yubari like Katori got access to a special module which turns them into the most accurate guns in the game. 

 

Basically what this means is that she with only 4 guns should be actually having higher effective dpm as other cruisers... if you can aim and land them. A Kuma has more gun's per broadside, but due to dispersion will not land as many shells.

 

I still like the old Yubari more tho, which was basically a no fly zone for enemy CV's.... imagine having that in current low tier CV spam

 

Edit: as for speed and agility, think a Kuma. Citadel size, think Omaha. 

 

Edit2: not saying she is a bad tier 4 cruiser, just don't buy into the AA hype, it's a worthless gimmick unless for self defense. 

[SirBlemmingtonSmythe]

Hmmmm maybe I'm not the right guy to advise you on this, as this is my favourite boat.  8.5 detection with skills is very useful, AA has been nerfed from what it was but I still got 35 planes down in a match the other day, built of one large citadel, so if you don't dodge, you die, very quickly indeed. However it does dodge quite well so unless the CV player is leet you can dodge most torp drops and rocket fire. Torps are good but have diabolical angles to fire, mostly 90 degree firing is the norm.  It does come with AA defensive fire but don't rely on it knocking planes down like it used to, you still need to zip about and work on killing them. It takes some getting used to if it's your first premium (like me) and to be fair I was absolutely awful in it as I had no idea how the game worked, it has taken me a long time to reverse all the harm my noobishness created.

 

All in all a fun boat with enough means to defend itself and take it to other boats if you remember not to sail in straight lines and keep an eye on the map, it has enough speed to change flanks if necessary and can punish destroyers for straying too close.  Getting a secondary kill is quite rare though 

 

I have no hesitation in recommending this boat to you and the final accolade, it's cheap.

[DFens_666]

The main selling point would have been AA... and that got nerfed pretty much. You will shoot down planes, after they dropped you. Which doesnt help much does it? With old CVs, that would have still been a good trade. Now? No value at all.

Other than that, it feels really lackluster imo.

[Sir_Grzegorz]

I would actually say to just gather coal. There is so many ships, and such low tiers tends to get boring fast.

First find a tier that suits you most, then think about premium ships.

 

And tier 4 is perfectly useless for most missions, as they can be done in tier 5+ or even 6+ sometimes.

With occasional missions for higher tiers that are not that important, IMHO.

 

I would say tier 6 would be best as it can be used in scenarios. All in all, find your tier, then think about premiums.

[Yedwy]

@OP No, the fact she is T4 and hence doesnt count for dailies and her AA power is not what it used to  be she is a port queen if even that

[Rhineheart_Thor]

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/85142-premium-ship-review-yubari-20/

 

A man that ignore,s the advice of LWM and Lert, is a man that needs to visit there Doctor for an injection of wisdom!

[Panocek]

I'd just keep piling coal via daily crates. That or signal flags. Or both.

[Miscommunication_dept]

It's unique and therefore quite fun but not very competitive

[lossi_2018]

I liked yuba, played some games wit her and I enjoyed it. Good ship, a large dd wit guns that bite hard and decent AA for the tier. It's not a bad ship for the price I think and it can give u some good games. Idk how hard it gets uptiered now though, cuz as said already armor is not good but then again no cruiser armor is tbh haha :D

[SirBlemmingtonSmythe]

1 hour ago, Orcinus1 said:

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/85142-premium-ship-review-yubari-20/

 

A man that ignore,s the advice of LWM and Lert, is a man that needs to visit there Doctor for an injection of wisdom!

That'll be me then still I've heard that too many times for it not to be true, I just like going against the flow, we aren't all normal 

 

Oh and that review is brilliant mate, lists everything good and bad. 

[Rhineheart_Thor]

1 minute ago, SirBlemmingtonSmythe said:

That'll be me then still I've heard that too many times for it not to be true, I just like going against the flow, we aren't all normal 

 

Sweet My Whale Friend

[Major_Damage225]

Yubyub is a good ship to have, you wont make any records with her but shes a fun lil tub, torps are best used for a "sail by" they can delete any ship but shes a frail lil thing, now if you know how to avoid getting into a bad possition you can do well in her, the AA nerf is a bit of a low blow from WG's part, but shes fun none the less, and getting a close quarters with her powerfull single pea shooter of a secondary gun is pure lol.

 

[VanD4rk]

I forgot that I have this ship as my other low tier premiums... they usually sail again when the flakes event appear.

When I played it in randoms( few battles) it was nice. I have no idea how it is now in randoms since I have not played it in ages...

[BLUB__BLUB]

It is definitely a funny ship with a fat captain that has CE and IFHE... 

Spoiler

 

[Miscommunication_dept]

IFHE not helpful at tier 4.

[mtm78]

Are you sure? No 25mm sections you suddenly pen? 

[Sargento_YO]

The AA on Yubari it's quite useless. Before the big cv nerf (rework) they had quite good AA and I had to avoid them even in my Zuiho. But now it can barely shoot down any Hosho´s plane after a long time.
Also, the def aa consumable isn't THAT useful nowadays since you have only 1 charge (2 with premium, and total of 3 with superintendent + premium)

[BLUB__BLUB]

5 minutes ago, Sargento_YO said:

The AA on Yubari it's quite useless. Before the big cv nerf (rework) they had quite good AA and I had to avoid them even in my Zuiho. But now it can barely shoot down any Hosho´s plane after a long time.
Also, the def aa consumable isn't THAT useful nowadays since you have only 1 charge (2 with premium, and total of 3 with superintendent + premium)

Still works with 19pt captain with AFT and BFT (last time I tried CV couldn't get a torp/bomb in).

Of course that's probably not a "pro" CV, if he wants to get you, he will. 

[mtm78]

1 hour ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Still works with 19pt captain with AFT and BFT (last time I tried CV couldn't get a torp/bomb in).

Of course that's probably not a "pro" CV, if he wants to get you, he will. 

 

That's not even a bad CV, it's a terrible one. Took Yubari out today, both CV's enemy team only tried striking the BB's I was trying to 'escort', sadly the BB's both shot down more planes as I did... 

*sorry no game result screen

7 plane kills. BB's both got at least 20. Maybe if CV would be trying to strike me,  and spend more time in my short range aura, then it might shoot down lots more planes ( surely would actually )... but you wouldn't prevent strikes to yourself from any skilled CV player.  And it just emphasizes that AA is worthless for 'escort' duties unless you dedicate yourself to stay within 2.5km of your escort target.

[Miscommunication_dept]

2 hours ago, mtm78 said:

Are you sure? No 25mm sections you suddenly pen? 

Battleship plating at tier 4 and 5 is 19mm.

 

Yubaris guns have 24mm of pen.

[BLUB__BLUB]

27 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

 

That's not even a bad CV, it's a terrible one. Took Yubari out today, both CV's enemy team only tried striking the BB's I was trying to 'escort', sadly the BB's both shot down more planes as I did... 

*sorry no game result screen

7 plane kills. BB's both got at least 20. Maybe if CV would be trying to strike me,  and spend more time in my short range aura, then it might shoot down lots more planes ( surely would actually )... but you wouldn't prevent strikes to yourself from any skilled CV player.  And it just emphasizes that AA is worthless for 'escort' duties unless you dedicate yourself to stay within 2.5km of your escort target.

You might have taken enough HP off those planes for the BBS to finally kill them, if they passed over you.

Same sort of thing  happens when me and my divvy have Hood/Sims. The one that is "on exit side" gets the kills.

Might be because WG decided AA "shoots last -plane first". 

 

[CptBarney]

I wouldn't not with miss hosho going mental down at tier 4.

 

heres a vid on balans for ya.

 

 

But you can get her anyways, she doesn't seem so appealing due to the limited amount of guns and non-existant AA.

 

shame really.

[mtm78]

11 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

Battleship plating at tier 4 and 5 is 19mm.

 

Yubaris guns have 24mm of pen.

 

22mm of standard pen

 

Pyotr has big sections of 25mm plating around deck and superstructure. 

 

There is always an edge case ;) Not that it's worth the 4 points but still.