Major1999 ∞ Players 147 posts Report post #1 Posted September 29, 2019 For me, yes she need a buff, 410mm and 20km are with this ammo useless, the armor is also not perfect to play it as battle cruiser. What is your opinion to the Mutsu, how do you play it and how successfull are you with it ? 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #2 Posted September 29, 2019 I dont even own mutsu, but i can tell you where you are going wrong: Dont play her at 20km... 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #3 Posted September 29, 2019 for 8x410mm to be even remotely balanced at T6, she needs to be pretty meh in most other regards... and for some reason or another she also goes 26.5kts at a tier where she meets metric tons of USN Standards plus lotsa other Dreadnoughts, almost all of which are a good bit slower. So no, she doesnt need a buff, even if she's not the easiest ship to play/get the most out of. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #4 Posted September 29, 2019 Mutsu is absolutely fine, I've quite enjoyed playing her and she is certainly not weak. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #5 Posted September 29, 2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #6 Posted September 29, 2019 Mutsu is one of the ships that defenetly don't need buffing, she can be pretty devestating on her tier at times. Dont play her on max range, and if you can keep a eye on what's going on around you, you'll do good in her. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #7 Posted September 29, 2019 Spreadsheets say minescule buff of torp-angle is enough 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #8 Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Major1999 said: For me, yes she need a buff, 410mm and 20km are with this ammo useless, the armor is also not perfect to play it as battle cruiser. What is your opinion to the Mutsu, how do you play it and how successfull are you with it ? She doesn't need a buff, you aren't playing her correctly. Get in closer than that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #9 Posted September 29, 2019 She is fine, has 6k torps and is a brawler around islands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] NothingButTheRain Players 6,338 posts 14,259 battles Report post #10 Posted September 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said: She is fine, has 6k torps and is a brawler around islands. 7km 5 hours ago, Major1999 said: For me, yes she need a buff, 410mm and 20km are with this ammo useless, the armor is also not perfect to play it as battle cruiser. What is your opinion to the Mutsu, how do you play it and how successfull are you with it ? Mutsu owner here I think Mutsu is fine. She eats damage relatively easily and will get eaten alive with any CV present, but otherwise I wouldn't call Mutsu underpowered myself. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #11 Posted September 30, 2019 14 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said: 7km Could call that a Buff then 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #12 Posted September 30, 2019 I like my Mutsu. Good guns and if you are under 16km pretty accurate, good number of secondaries with a decent range for Tier 6, 7km torpedoes with a 21 second reload. AA isn't bad for a IJN Tier 6 BB either... Haven't played her much but in the battles I have had good WR. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #13 Posted September 30, 2019 It‘s hilarious torping DDs that are rushing you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TFD-] Furius_Marius Players 268 posts 12,343 battles Report post #14 Posted April 18, 2020 I played some battles, And always fall in tier VIII battles where is useless... Terrible armour, terrible AA, and terrible PEN(shells are worst than Nagato). Even new European Torps gives a ton of damage. And if the CV focus on u. Bye game. The dispersion is quite random. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_OC_] Mastodon2 Players 110 posts 1,571 battles Report post #15 Posted April 18, 2020 I think the Mutsu is ok, pretty balanced. As mentioned above, 8 x 410mm guns and torps, she needs to be balanced somehow. Her overmatch potential is high but her WWI era shells have underwhelming penetration. Now Ashitaka on the other hand, when was the last time you saw one of them? That's a pretty meh ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TFD-] Furius_Marius Players 268 posts 12,343 battles Report post #16 Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mastodon2 said: I think the Mutsu is ok, pretty balanced. As mentioned above, 8 x 410mm guns and torps, she needs to be balanced somehow. Her overmatch potential is high but her WWI era shells have underwhelming penetration. Now Ashitaka on the other hand, when was the last time you saw one of them? That's a pretty meh ship. The only Ashitaka I see in battle is mine. Too huge and too few AA for tier IX battles and that armour. great guns 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #17 Posted April 18, 2020 On 9/29/2019 at 3:19 PM, Major1999 said: For me, yes she need a buff, 410mm and 20km are with this ammo useless, the armor is also not perfect to play it as battle cruiser. What is your opinion to the Mutsu, how do you play it and how successfull are you with it ? Yes definitely, Mutsuki needs a buff back to Kamikaze level Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #18 Posted April 19, 2020 On 9/29/2019 at 10:26 PM, NothingButTheRain said: 7km there you go, that fookin explains it.... god darn it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #19 Posted April 19, 2020 Mutsu is a murder machine in close combat. Torps reload faster then the main guns and it adds so much damage potential, paired with a secondar specced captain it shredds everything. Just dont try to snipe with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted April 19, 2020 I just wish for some opportunities to play Mutsu or all those very nice low to mid tier ships out there... The problem of lack of content (yes content, not ships...) for anything below 8/9 tiers is now getting worse than ever. I especially noticed this in connection with the current 'campaign'. Sorry for derailment attempt, please feel free to ignore my rant. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] VeryHonarbrah Players 386 posts 15,533 battles Report post #21 Posted April 19, 2020 mutsu is fine, I would say its strong, your running very good speed for the tier and spicy guns, + some meme torps, sure she is a glass cannon against anything bigger than 380mm, but anything bellow it dumpsters them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #22 Posted April 20, 2020 I have pimped her with the torp armament upgrade just for the meme. Torpedo Armament Expertise and Last Stand as captain skills. Feels like a BB with a Minekaze on board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PKTZS] JapLance Weekend Tester 2,567 posts 18,265 battles Report post #23 Posted April 20, 2020 Played a few games with Mutsu when WG allowed us to rent some ships for credits, and I didn't feel it needed any help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TES6L] Hawker_gb Players 283 posts 14,329 battles Report post #24 Posted April 20, 2020 Played 7 battles in Mutsu on rent,averaging 85877 dmg. She hardly needs a buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TFD-] Furius_Marius Players 268 posts 12,343 battles Report post #25 Posted April 20, 2020 maybe the problem is that i just ended in mostly tier VIII battles with CV and that makes the ship quite weak. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites