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Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

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3 minutes ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

Over sensitive? You torped your team mate. Take the punishment like a 46 year old and stop being a bonehead :Smile_hiding:

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Once he is launched mr torpedo is nobody's friend, just like handgrenade pins......

Situational awareness applies both ways; yes your team should be aware of when DDs are likely to be torping but also you should be aware that team-mates are magically attracted to your torpedoes....

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8 minutes ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

well, at least you got your name right ...

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14 minutes ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

Then take a break, a very long one. Until you learn where to point your weapons.

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This entitled mentality seems to be fairly common among TKers tho.

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(I was very HP and rushed down their Lion getting on his broadside between him and the GK (who was like 15km away)

 

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2 hours ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

Please take the break.... Your potential team mates will surely appreciate it....

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5 hours ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self

 

No he did not, it wasn't his fault some :etc_swear: forgot there are no friendly torpedoes, they all go kaboom when they meet a ship doesn't matter green or red ( or your own ship when speedboosting :Smile_trollface: ). 

 

Never EVER EVER EVER launch your torps from second line. And what is second line? Well any place which is not where there is no chance at all that an ally might intercept your torpedoes. Basically, if you the closest the enemy, no one else has the right to limit your movement because they feel entitled to potential damage even if it endangers others. 

 

We tried teaching this to new players from the start, but when I play my DD's I still need to dodge useless torpedo's from my cruisers behind me... especially German one's with 4.5km range... and enemies at 10km+.

 

And don't worry, you will get it wrong sometimes it happens to the best of us. But if it happened, don't proclaim it's the fault of the guy getting torped, it is NEVER his fault even if he could have evaded them... Your torps, your fault. The times I been killed because I to dodge 'friendly' torpedoes only to steer right into a salvo of enemy one's, or where I couldn't turn out before getting spotted with my smoke on cooldown because some bugger shot torps from behind me... Disgusting behavior, almost warranting return of the old teamkill system :Smile_hiding:

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6 hours ago, Egoleter said:

Your torps, your responsibility.

"The other guy sailed into them" is a lazy excuse to push that responsibility away from you.

 

This can happen, especially with 16-20 km torpedoes. Not often, though, but there are really unforeseen circumstances like DD's on the other side of the map or crazy BB's charging into cap to ram enemy ships. In reality 2nd line torping is much more common problem and that is 99% down to your own risk miscalculation or carelessness.

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7 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Once he is launched mr torpedo is nobody's friend, just like handgrenade pins......

Situational awareness applies both ways; yes your team should be aware of when DDs are likely to be torping but also you should be aware that team-mates are magically attracted to your torpedoes....

You don't torp from the second line and you keep in check if there are friendlies that might get in the way of your torps. If that posibility is there in the slightest, you throw a shout out in chat that you got torps in the water. Your team should only be aware because you called out to them. Your torps should not be their concern otherwise. Like others say: your torps, your responsibility. The whole time they are alive. 

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Vor 8 Stunden, TomTheBonehead sagte:

I got penelty for that.

Can you tell exactly what kind of penalty you received? We assume that your account name turned pink and that you got a note after the battle that it will remain pink for some games. Please tell us the rest of the penalty.

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14 hours ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

Right you are! 

 

Don‘t listen to these people here! 

Take your ship, stay behind your cruisers and BBs and fire your torpedos as soon they are reloaded! It’s your team mates job to watch out for torps that are being fired from behind them!!!

See you (hopefully) on the enemy team. 

 

Keep playing and get yourself a Yoshino for 20km(!) torpedo range! 

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I just need a "YOUR TORPS YOUR FAULT" banner on the gameplay section,

so I can close any threads about this when they pop up!

 

Dear OP,

Plain and simple...

When they are in the water, they are neither your friends nor the enemies'

 

Fact 1: you fired torpedoes into an area where there is a possibility of your teammate to go in.

Fact 2: Your teammate gone in and took your torp(s)

Fact 3: Your fault!

 

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16 hours ago, TomTheBonehead said:

Hi All. 

I have risently rejoin the game after a long break. 

 

I think the penelty system is over sensitiv. Now that i rejoin i need to lern the game a bit agen. Shoot some torps and 2 min after some of Them hit own team mate, he sailed in to Them him self. I got penelty for that. Ok i have to become a guro that Are Abel to forsee this things to play this game? I dont think this is fire. Rigth now i AM in in No mood for [edited] like this and May take another loooong brake from game agen. You realy think i did that becoase i want My team to skuffer and lose? Come one I am an adult at the age of 46. Not a kid that want to go rambo in game. 

The system needs to be that sensitive for teamkills (which I assume when talking about green on green torps that you sunk the guy) because it's an automated system. An automated system won't know if it was a genuine accident or not. It can't look into your brain (luckily). Also even for obvious cases for human eyes you can't expect WG to pay one guy PER RUNNING MATCH to watch the match to hand out penaltys manually.

However if you make the system any less strict it would open up the floodgates for all kind for abusement namly griefing. If you can sink someone in a game with no respawns without penalty it will be used for griefing. period. Yes people are rotten like that on the internet.

 

Also talking about penalty. If you are genuine innocent this should happen very rarly making the "penalty" just some pink matches where you have to be extra careful not to harm someone. (Even then you will sometimes notice people already griefing you by intentionally ramming you to prolong your penalty because of the ramming damage) No real harm done.

Even the next step (being orange and some matches forced in coop) isn't what I would call a real punishment. (although it gets harder to avoid teamdamage there because bots LOVE to ram player controlled ships :Smile_sceptic:)

 

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edited

 

You care enough to come post about it here :Smile_trollface:

 

Anyway just reading this, totally coincidental ->

 

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WHAT PARENTS NEED TO KNOW

Parents need to know that World of Warships is a free-to-play downloadable online historical (mid-20th-century) naval combat warfare game where players join with friends and strangers to challenge other teams in arena-based combat. The goal of the game is to destroy the other team or capture control points on the map. World of Warships is an "easy to play, hard to master" style of game that encourages teamwork and strategic planning while providing a sense of personal growth and development. Though World of Warships is free to play, it does have an online store for purchasing premium items, and it gives incentives to purchase Premium time. Communication among teammates is a large part of the strategic planning, and the potential for unmoderated language is quite high. Though the game is violent, it's a war game, so that's expected. There's no blood or gore shown; instead, the ships catch fire and explode prior to sinking.

https://www.commonsensemedia.org/game-reviews/world-of-warships

 

I have had chat bans, but I seem to have always earned them ( I had some checked... :Smile_hiding: ). Just remember this is a free 2 play game and the person you might be 'yelling' at might be a 12y old kid who just doesn't know any better :Smile_honoring:

 

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17 hours ago, Egoleter said:

Your torps, your responsibility.

"The other guy sailed into them" is a lazy excuse to push that responsibility away from you.

I agree torps are the shooter's responsibilty but aggregated accidential crash damage isnt. The system does need adjustment to reflect the chaos resulting in torp aviodance from enemy torps, especially now teams tend to bunch up because of the increased air threat

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23 minutes ago, Miessa3 said:

The system needs to be that sensitive for teamkills (which I assume when talking about green on green torps that you sunk the guy) because it's an automated system. An automated system won't know if it was a genuine accident or not. It can't look into your brain (luckily). Also even for obvious cases for human eyes you can't expect WG to pay one guy PER RUNNING MATCH to watch the match to hand out penaltys manually.

However if you make the system any less strict it would open up the floodgates for all kind for abusement namly griefing. If you can sink someone in a game with no respawns without penalty it will be used for griefing. period. Yes people are rotten like that on the internet.

 

Also talking about penalty. If you are genuine innocent this should happen very rarly making the "penalty" just some pink matches where you have to be extra careful not to harm someone. (Even then you will sometimes notice people already griefing you by intentionally ramming you to prolong your penalty because of the ramming damage) No real harm done.

Even the next step (being orange and some matches forced in coop) isn't what I would call a real punishment. (although it gets harder to avoid teamdamage there because bots LOVE to ram player controlled ships :Smile_sceptic:)

 

 

A partial WoT solution to this was turning friendly fire off. TBH, I haven't played enough since then to really have an idea about the pros and cons. A similar solution in WoWS would be turning friendly fire off for your torpedoes. This would essentially mean dumbing down the mechanic and making it less realistic, but then again, how realistic are the game mechanics otherwise.

 

Sometimes... I realize a little too late my torps are a potential hazard and I then try to alert my team mates, but it sometimes seems they either pay no attention or purposefully ignore them.... I know it's essentially my fault, but I don't always take into account that some players can do something completely unexpected.

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11 minutes ago, battle_ensign said:

I got chat banned until the 29th of september for calling a £$$%, a £$$% .  Wargaming can kiss my hairy butt because I dont care. they are the ones that will lose out on items I would have bought - ill just go play something else UP yours Sherlock......

My stats are way better - try 2 weeks :fish_haloween:

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1 minute ago, mtm78 said:

 

You care enough to come post about it here :Smile_trollface:

 

Anyway just reading this, totally coincidental ->

 

https://www.commonsensemedia.org/game-reviews/world-of-warships

 

I have had chat bans, but I seem to have always earned them ( I had some checked... :Smile_hiding: ). Just remember this is a free 2 play game and the person you might be 'yelling' at might be a 12y old kid who just doesn't know any better :Smile_honoring:

 

MTM78,  I probably earned mine too, but in reality the only people the ban realy hurts is WOWS wallet. becausde i wont play until the ban is ended

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Just now, battle_ensign said:

MTM78,  I probably earned mine too, but in reality the only people the ban realy hurts is WOWS wallet. becausde i wont play until the ban is ended

Why tho? 

How is you not playing hurting WGs wallet? 

 

Do you spend tons of cash on a daily basis? Do you buy premium time day by day? Each day a new premium ship? Doubloons in large quantities? 

I doubt that. 

 

The only one you're hurting is yourself assuming you have premium time, cause that'd be 3 days wasted.  

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