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Italian Cruisers

The coming updates are dedicated to Italy. The Italian arc presents a branch of Italian cruisers, a new game event, Taranto Port, and other new features.

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Cruisers are set to be the first researchable branch of the Italian Navy. The newcomers are notable for their maneuverability and powerful 203 mm guns, with weighty broadside salvoes on Tier VI cruisers and upwards. The unique features of Italian cruisers include their semi-armor-piercing (SAP) shells and the Exhaust Smoke Generator consumable.

SAP Shell Features

  • SAP shells may ricochet after hitting their target, but they have shallower ricochet angles than AP shells.
  • If your hit doesn't ricochet, then the armor penetration mechanics are similar to those of HE shells.
  • They can't overpenetrate targets.
  • They can't start fires on enemy ships.
  • They cause greater damage and can penetrate thicker armor than HE shells.

SAP shells can steadily inflict large amounts of regular damage to enemy ships.

The difference between Exhaust Smoke Generator and the standard Smoke Generator is that the former can conceal a ship without it having to reduce speed. This consumable works for 25–40 seconds, with the smoke dissipating in 10 seconds.

Game Event

During the event, you'll have access to Directives that offer rewards such as new containers and a new temporary resource—Italian Tokens. You can exchange these in the Armory for permanent and expendable camouflages, signals, days of Warships Premium Account, credits, event containers, and Random Bundles.

In Update 0.8.9, event containers have a certain chance of dropping a combat mission that grants those who complete it early access to Tier V–VIII Italian cruisers. However, the containers won't drop any combat missions during the Public Test.

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/public-test/bulletin-089/

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Hi  @WG_Lumberjack how do I test the Italian Ships  ? logged in to the PTS and I have no Italian Ships ? the Halloween Port looks Awesome though :Smile_honoring:

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15 hours ago, gmomkey said:

Hi  @WG_Lumberjack how do I test the Italian Ships  ? logged in to the PTS and I have no Italian Ships ? the Halloween Port looks Awesome though :Smile_honoring:

Please read last paragraph.. :)

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Just looking at the models of Italian cruisers, for now (I have pointed out some of these in the general feedback section, but for order and clarity I will repost them here)

 

1) Port of Taranto

- the blue banner in the Container screen reads "INCROCIATORE ITALIANA", which is wrong ("incrociatore" is singular masculine, "italiana" is singular but feminine; genre should be accorded -- and besides a plural is required here, so "INCROCIATORI ITALIANI"; moreover, in the 40s the proper denomination would have been "Regi Incrociatori")

- the Ponte Girevole should be animated, it is a pity that it is an immovable object

- naval ships would be moored in the Mar Piccolo (i. e. across the bridge), not in the Mar Grande, where the ships appear now

- the standards adorning the port should bear the national flag, not that of the Regia Marina (i. e. the Italian tri-colour with the Savoy shield and no crown over it) and the ribbons would probably be more historically accurate in Savoy blue

 

2) R. I. Nino Bixio

- she had 6, not 8 120mm guns (only one per side, but the superstructures were built in a way that allowed the guns to fire on a reasonable arc on both sides of the ship

 

3) R. I. Taranto

- she did not have the star on the bow

- hopefully the B hull will be designed after the 1937 refurbishment of the ship (3 funnels, new machinery)

 

4) R. I. Di Giussano (NOT "Giussano")

- she did not have the star on the bow; she had instead the navy black eagle with the Savoy escutcheon

 

5) R. I. Trento

- she had 8 torpedo tubes in four twin mounts; they were internal tubes, mounted perpendicularly to the hull and fixed (so you had to steer the ship in order to point the torpedo tubes in the right direction: it could be an interesting addition to tactics); no external TT (the two sets of twin holes in the photo linked here: http://www.trentoincina.it/gallery2.php?idg=162 & idp=154)

- again, no star on the bow; I believe the navy eagle was there instead, but my photos are not clear enough -- will do some research As I see from many blurred photos, Italian heavy cruisers usually sported the arms of the city they were named after on the bow. I do not have, however a solid proof for Trento.

 

6) R. I. Zara

- she has never mounted torpedo tubes; the two mounts on the WoWs model are not historical; two additional twin 100 mm AA turrets should be there instead.

- no star on the bow, but the arms of the city of Zara

- the motto "Tenacemente" (="tenaciously") was written in all capitals on the sides of the D 203mm turret (see here: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0LjfoTp1lU4/VvZX-QGt0wI/AAAAAAAAGAQ/2jVSIDGNs6MT5-Ze1p45qGQB9FmpXgV3A/s1600/Zara%2Bcannoni4%2B%28Giorgio%2BParodi%29.jpg)

 

7) It would be great to see the seaplanes on Di Giussano, Trento and Zara, mounted on the forward catapults.

 

8) All Italian cruisers had their names painted on both sides of the stern in red and gold capitals; the royal crown was embossed on the stern (bigger than the one in the Zara model); these visual elements of the identity of the ships should be present in the models.

 

9) I will not comment on the fantasy ships of tiers VIII-X, as they bear no resemblance whatsoever to anything historical. I believe WG research could have done better. I would love, on the contrary, to see the beautiful R. I. Bolzano (maybe as a Tier VI premium?) and R. I. San Giorgio (Tier II or III).

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5 hours ago, WG_Lumberjack said:

Please read last paragraph.. :)

In Update 0.8.9, event containers have a certain chance of dropping a combat mission that grants those who complete it early access to Tier V–VIII Italian cruisers.

However, the containers won't drop any combat missions during the Public Test. "

 

So if the containers will not drop the Italian Ships and there are none in the Armoury .  How can I test them ? I had over 500 Captains on stream last night inching to see them . I could only stream the Halloween Event which they liked , but were a little disappointed that there the Italians were not there . and to be honest so was I  .

are the ships going to be sailed in to my port soon ?  or am I excluded from testing them ??

mind you I absolutely adore The Crocosaur  , The art dept have really gone all out for us again . they are amazing skins . Art Dept, You Guys Rock. 

Have a Blasting Good Day Captain :Smile_honoring:

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7 hours ago, WG_Lumberjack said:

Please read last paragraph.. :)

So, there wont be any Italian ships testing on this event.

So why naming it after them?
I loathe the idea of early access to ships in normal server, let everyone grind them since tier 2 like it usedto be...

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@powerverde   It seams that way . and yeah why get us all exited for the Italian Ships and not let us play them .

I mean the the post is about testing them and we don't have them ?????? 

Still the Halloween Event is brill  :Smile_hiding:

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There was never a upcoming Tech Tree in the PTS. Supertester and CCs only have access to it and this is on the Live Server.

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2 hours ago, gmomkey said:

@powerverde   It seams that way . and yeah why get us all exited for the Italian Ships and not let us play them .

I mean the the post is about testing them and we don't have them ?????? 

Still the Halloween Event is brill  :Smile_hiding:

Yes, there are quite a lot of things to see and test in this ST, and i like the new ports and the return of the halloween missions - many of us already done them but we have new players all the time.

its just that things like having missions to do with the Genova or tier V-VIII ships and not having any way to do them seems ridiculous. It's like showing a candy to a kid and telling he cant have it.
 

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Wasn't it the same for the 'French DDs' ?

 

An update dedicated to a specific line of a specific branch even tho you don't have any of those ships available. In order to get them (and even completing some of the directives) you have to be extremely lucky with RNG and get them in some container, usually paying more for premium ones...

 

So in order to feel "a part of the update" you have to throw a bunch of cash at some premium containers and have faith on the miserable RNG. Not a way to go if you ask me but if it works for most players, than fine. I usually just ignore the things like that and move on. The 0.8.9 is anyways packed with way too many things to be focused on so missing (ignoring) a few just makes the life a bit easier.

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I break my promise not to comment on the fantasy Italian cruisers of tiers VIII-X, just to suggest at least one modification, if WG really believes these oddities should be in the game. Change T9 name from Brindisi to Pisa:

1) Pisa was the name of an armoured cruiser in service between 1911 and 1937 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_cruiser_Pisa)

2) Pisa is one of the four "Repubbliche marinare" (= "Maritime republics": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_republics) whose tradition is central in Italian naval culture (their arms are reproduced in the escutcheon of the Navy, and since 1947 also in the naval ensign of Italy); the other three being Amalfi, Venezia and Genova, it would make sense that WoWs named its non historical cruisers after them in a coherent way.

3) On the other hand, the name Brindisi is not traditional for Italian Navy; as far as I know, only an auxiliary cruiser (i. e. a converted merchant ship) has carried this name (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brindisi_(incrociatore_ausiliario))

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Why is the 'Italian Arc' part of the PTS (even as a separate thread on the forum) when we cannot obtain the ships, test them or even look at their stats in port?

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On 9/29/2019 at 10:04 AM, Palubarac said:

Wasn't it the same for the 'French DDs' ?

 

An update dedicated to a specific line of a specific branch even tho you don't have any of those ships available. In order to get them (and even completing some of the directives) you have to be extremely lucky with RNG and get them in some container, usually paying more for premium ones...

 

So in order to feel "a part of the update" you have to throw a bunch of cash at some premium containers and have faith on the miserable RNG. Not a way to go if you ask me but if it works for most players, than fine. I usually just ignore the things like that and move on. The 0.8.9 is anyways packed with way too many things to be focused on so missing (ignoring) a few just makes the life a bit easier.

On a PTS which wanst named Italian Cruisers i got to try the tier 5 cruiser - PTS right before they brought Research Bureu to live server.
So that's why my rant...

 

BTW @WG_Lumberjack, is that bots mechanics going to stay like that? I mean, going till cap and then turn back?

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On 10/4/2019 at 1:02 AM, powerverde said:

On a PTS which wanst named Italian Cruisers i got to try the tier 5 cruiser - PTS right before they brought Research Bureu to live server.
So that's why my rant...

 

BTW @WG_Lumberjack, is that bots mechanics going to stay like that? I mean, going till cap and then turn back?

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