How is this possible

[Gudgeon]

I don't play the game so much these days, but I have come back and found sprint ranked good fun. There are some seriously bad/inexperienced players in some of the games, but you can normally carry and/or the bad players cancel each other out on either team. But I have just had one of the worst battles I have ever had due to a very bad DD player and this player, who is very inexperienced and has no clue. I have checked his stats and would like to know how such a player has unlocked a Zao after 100 random battles? This is why random battles are best avoided these days, players with ships at tiers way beyond their skill and experience level. It kills the game for the rest of the team. It is like a guy who goes for a track day at a race circuit and goes home signed up for a Formula 1 team........it is crazy.

 

 

4000 battles in co-op, grinds you a Zao. Absolutely ridiculous

 

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This player has avoided low tier ships in both co-op and randoms. This is madness. All he has learnt to do is shoot bots. The player has not learnt anything playing tier 4-5 (tier 1/2/3 is pretty poor in learning anything regarding play above tier 5/6 anyway). This is why random battles are really bad these days.......players like this. 

 

Put a cap on the number of co-op battles a player can play per ship or by a time period. You would have to be insane to want to play so many co-op anyway.

[Sir_Grzegorz]

Said by a person with hidden stats.

 

I have seen worse and I have seen better. The worse they are the easier it is to stay on top and not lose star if you cannot carry.

[Gudgeon]

29 minutes ago, Sir_Grzegorz said:

Said by a person with hidden stats.

 

I have seen worse and I have seen better. The worse they are the easier it is to stay on top and not lose star if you cannot carry.

 

 

 

There you go.....I hide my stats as I don't agree with the Match Maker Monitor mod being legal. It is cancerous, just like XVM in tanks. I am an average player who can work with a team, if that is possible.

 

 

[kfa]

51 minutes ago, Gudgeon said:

4000 battles in co-op, grinds you a Zao. Absolutely ridiculous

 

Thats not that bad i have seen much much worse here on the forums, like registered 1 week ago, having 20 battles and rocking in a Tirpitz and Atago...

Plus, ranked sprint is only slightly higher level of play than coop - just a silly fun, i wouldnt really care who plays there and how.

[principat121]

48 minutes ago, Gudgeon said:

It is cancerous

But you calling out other players is better?! 

#doublestandards

[Hedgehog1963]

1 hour ago, Gudgeon said:

 

 

 

There you go.....I hide my stats as I don't agree with the Match Maker Monitor mod being legal. It is cancerous, just like XVM in tanks. I am an average player who can work with a team, if that is possible.

 

 

 

Your stats are hidden.  This picture is of no value.

[Gudgeon]

22 minutes ago, principat121 said:

But you calling out other players is better?! 

#doublestandards

 

Who am I calling out? Do you know his name? Match Maker Monitor works in real time in a battle, with open chat channels, which leads to in battle abuse and bullying. If you pay attention, the only stat I am calling out is the number of battles which equals experience of the game. I am being critical of the GAME MECHANIC of XP gathering, not the player. I want to play with/against players of comparable/better skill than me, which leads to fun battles, not one sided rofl stomps due to massive difference in player experience/skill due to rushing up tiers and not gaining experience on the way. 

[El2aZeR]

While the idea of capping the amount of coop battles is ofc terrible, the OP has a point.

The abysmal playerbase is the absolute worst part of this game. And to say they're not being punished for failing would be an understatement.

But ofc nothing will be done about it since it earns WG money.

[principat121]

1 minute ago, Gudgeon said:

 

Who am I calling out? Do you know his name? Match Maker Monitor works in real time in a battle, with open chat channels, which leads to in battle abuse and bullying. If you pay attention, the only stat I am calling out is the number of battles which equals experience of the game. I am being critical of the GAME MECHANIC of XP gathering, not the player. I want to play with/against players of comparable/better skill than me, which leads to fun battles, not one sided rofl stomps due to massive difference in player experience/skill due to rushing up tiers and not gaining experience on the way. 

all what you said is still wrong

#doublestandards

[Captain_Singleton]

3 minutes ago, Gudgeon said:

 

Who am I calling out? Do you know his name? Match Maker Monitor works in real time in a battle, with open chat channels, which leads to in battle abuse and bullying. If you pay attention, the only stat I am calling out is the number of battles which equals experience of the game. I am being critical of the GAME MECHANIC of XP gathering, not the player. I want to play with/against players of comparable/better skill than me, which leads to fun battles, not one sided rofl stomps due to massive difference in player experience/skill due to rushing up tiers and not gaining experience on the way. 

ooh, so it's a "i want skill based matchmaker" thread is it, not going to happen, just be content with being a small fish in a big pond (like what i did there :P)

[Gudgeon]

3 minutes ago, Salentine said:

ooh, so it's a i want skill based matchmaker thread is it, not going to happen, just be content with being a small fish in a big pond (like what i did there :P)

 

No, not even skill based. This type of grinding just should not be possible. In tanks, you have to play random battles, no co-op is available. It almost forces you to improve, or give up.This should be a thing in ships too. Although I appreciate the player base number is much smaller, which is part of the problem in the first place.

[Captain_Singleton]

Just now, Gudgeon said:

 

No, not even skill based. This just should not be possible. In tanks, you have to play random battles, no co-op is available. It almost forces you to improve, or give up.This should be a thing in ships too. Although I appreciate the player base number is much smaller.

but that's exactly what you said "I want to play with/against players of comparable/better skill than me" you can call it whatever you like, it's skill based MM at the end of the day

[Gudgeon]

7 minutes ago, Hedgehog1963 said:

 

Your stats are hidden.  This picture is of no value.

Ok. What ever you say Mr Oracle of Ships.

[DasTongle]

1 hour ago, Gudgeon said:

It is like a guy who goes for a track day at a race circuit and goes home signed up for a Formula 1 team........it is crazy.

The subject of Pay Drivers is a new concept to you hm?

you will have to come to terms with the not so talented competitors arround you. 

As we all have to...

[Hanse77SWE]

This time he was on your team. Next time he'll be on the red team making it easy for you. It works both ways you know.

[Padds01]

2 hours ago, Gudgeon said:

4000 battles in co-op, grinds you a Zao. Absolutely ridiculous

 

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This player has avoided low tier ships in both co-op and randoms. This is madness. All he has learnt to do is shoot bots. The player has not learnt anything playing tier 4-5 (tier 1/2/3 is pretty poor in learning anything regarding play above tier 5/6 anyway). This is why random battles are really bad these days.......players like this. 

 

Put a cap on the number of co-op battles a player can play per ship or by a time period. You would have to be insane to want to play so many co-op anyway.

 

I dunno 4000 co op games.... dont think id be willing to do that

 

No , this is world of warships (are this is sparta jokes still a thing?)

 

im not sure i agree with high tier gameplay being more skill dependent , i think people get that mixed up because its generally where the most experienced play, i think its far more static , campy and formulaic than mid tier. 

 

They have stated a few times (that i have seen and im new myself) that they wont do skill based MM for random. and i get it, but i think the MM could still try to have some parity between the teams.  

 

it doesnt just suck for you experienced guys either if you started 4 years ago you didnt have the shockingly unfun experience of getting to t10 then being dropped into a game and being the only new player there. as the game gets older that gap between existing and new t10 players is going to just get wider. and i would imagine the amount that que up to experience it a second time is steadily declining already.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

There is a special resource in this game that can get you fast to high tiers. Its pretty easy really ...

 

Spoiler

 

 

[GarrusBrutus]

OP finds out you can grind to tier 10 playing only coop.....after 13k games. 

[invicta2012]

2 hours ago, Gudgeon said:

Put a cap on the number of co-op battles a player can play per ship or by a time period. You would have to be insane to want to play so many co-op anyway.

Playing co-op is pretty much the only way of keeping up with the various grinds which are a constant of the game. It is very one dimensional gameplay, you can get away with things which would not get you far in Random games, but if the mission is 1000 secondary hits to get the reward then co-op it is. 

 

I have stopped playing Ranked and Randoms of late due to the constant mucking around with CV gameplay and the spoiling of previously enjoyable Tiers. Does that mean my skill levels are decreasing and that, if I ever return to randoms, I'll be a worse player? Yup. Hard to believe though it might be.  I think I'm not alone in doing this, so that's going to be an overall reduction in gameplay quality. 

 

I'm not surprised if new players spend cash to jump the Tiers, because it's probably no fun grinding randoms at the moment with the Tier IV CV apocalypse. I'm not surprised either if they end playing coop at high Tiers, either : they spent good money on the ships and coop is the only place they dont get constantly smashed into oblivion. 

 

'Git Gud' doesn't cut it either... Anyone climbing the Tiers these days faces more ships, more complexity, more trap tactics, and more of WGs bad ideas than ever before. All wrapped up in a Tier progression system which doesn't provide much of an Endgame for experienced and skilled players, other than smashing the noobs for Research points. 

 

 

 

 

[iFax]

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

The abysmal playerbase is the absolute worst part of this game. And to say they're not being punished for failing would be an understatement.

Wait,what?

You want poor/bad players punished?

[Shaka_D]

Played with folks with win rates of around mid 30% at one point, that was sad on so many levels. Someone posted this on a WOT forum once and it always makes me laugh because it's so true.

 

[DFens_666]

18 minutes ago, Shaka_D said:

Played with folks with win rates of around mid 30% at one point, that was sad on so many levels. Someone posted this on a WOT forum once and it always makes me laugh because it's so true. 

 

The one sad difference is, IRL noone would play with someone like that anymore... in game, we have no choice

[AlphaBaboon]

4 ore fa, Gudgeon ha scritto:

 

 

 

There you go.....I hide my stats as I don't agree with the Match Maker Monitor mod being legal. It is cancerous, just like XVM in tanks. I am an average player who can work with a team, if that is possible.

 

 

Match Maker Monitor? so basically we end ep in battles not randomly? Dunno, I had days where I lose 5 battles in a row and other win 5 in a row.
Stats are not bad. good kill death ratio also victories, wonder why damage and exp are low

[AlphaBaboon]

You can also hope to have this kind of chickens to the red team.
I have around 58,5 win/loss ratio but I can assure you that in my opinion around 70 or 80% of battles don't really rely on the personal contribution of a single ship in a team made of 12 ships.

[Yedwy]

Potatos will be potatos

 

Personally I dont use the MMM or give a rats  about it, its users or their comments and smartas*es get the Chat abuse report (and I advise all others to do the same) without any comment whatsoever from me, I hand them out even if they target others (which is actually the case most of the time since I passed the 51% solo mark) so they can enjoy their chatban time if they persist with it...