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refund for 457 conqueror guns  

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  1. 1. what is right in this case? :

    • WG have to be kind, and allow me to transfer this camo on other ship (and erase official freexp and credits refunds that i have became)
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    • WG cann use now their game conditions, and ignore me.
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i paid for conqueror permanent camo only because 457 guns.

 

WG took them from my ship.

 

i claim in support that i dont need refunf on free xp and credits, i want to use this perma camo on another ship.

( conqueror is now for me now the ship only for erase. not usable for me ) 

 

pls vote poll , about justice . thx

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Mhm, I would wager that morally I'd say it be nice if WG gave players option when making big changes to ships ( removal of gun option, even if not popular to start with ) does seem 'big'

 

Still I'd vote they can do w/e they want.

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surely the question should be why would you use the 457's on the conq to start with?

 

but being serious, you sign away all rights when you agree to buy pixel stuff, so WG don't have to do anything for you.

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So they force you to do something right, and you are not happy.

I am not surprised, anyone is?

 

I am able to imagine the polite and sensible manner that you asked them.

Makes me wonder if they even bothered to understand what you are about.

 

Do not take me wrong here OP, they can do what they want, but if it would depend on me I would support your claim.

After all there is no good reason why this change was done.

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I would ask kindly in a ticket point out that there was a change after the fact to the ship you purchased it for and ask to get the dubloon value credited. Cause i do not think that they are obliged to pay you something back at this point.

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59 minutes ago, Salentine said:

surely the question should be why would you use the 457's on the conq to start with?

 

 

Re why would?

 

As I sold her, so I am going from memory here so forgive me if I am talking sh1t,

 

The old clan I was in, explored Conquerors Operational Capabilities with the 457,s ( The Clan was in love with Conquerors ) The 457,s gave a " significant " increase in fire damage ( more or less guaranteed a fire with ever salvo ) 60% ish ???, comes to mind but that may be wrong.

 

Experimenting with 2 x Conquerors, 1 x Neptune,  2 x shimmers for clan wars. I don't know what came of it all, as the CV rework hit, and I was more interested in a CV division with escorts. 

 

Guys take this game seriously and are " anally retentive " over it.

 

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1 hour ago, Milan_G_ said:

i paid for conqueror permanent camo only because 457 guns.

 

WG took them from my ship.

 

i claim in support that i dont need refunf on free xp and credits, i want to use this perma camo on another ship.

( conqueror is now for me now the ship only for erase. not usable for me ) 

 

pls vote poll , about justice . thx

You are right there, but I don't believe you will have success

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Well, support is also part of my job, and if I only have to flick a switch in a database to make a customer happy, I would do it.

 

On the other hand, our customers would not post about that kind of unbureaucratic help in a public forum, opening the floodgates for all kinds of similar requests by other customers, who would rightly feel entitled to get the same treatment, and thus creating quite a quagmire for the company.

 

Now that it's out there, I feel that WG has no other option but to deny your request, sorry.

 

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55 minutes ago, Orcinus1 said:

The old clan I was in, explored Conquerors Operational Capabilities with the 457,s ( The Clan was in love with Conquerors ) The 457,s gave a " significant " increase in fire damage ( more or less guaranteed a fire with ever salvo ) 60% ish ???, comes to mind but that may be wrong

 

but having the extra 4 guns makes up for any small loss of % fire chance, and the AP is fantastic too...

but hey everybody has their own preferences.

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3 minutes ago, Salentine said:

but having the extra 4 guns makes up for any small loss of % fire chance, and the AP is fantastic too...

but hey everybody has their own preferences.

Yes I agree with you. 

 

If you do the maths the 419,s, make more sense.

 

I think the reason the 457, went was no body would buy Thunderer, they would just fit the 457,s to Conqueror should they wish to be " Funky "

 

Both if I recall correctly, where paper ships.  

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You should thank them for forcing you to the best Conqueror build :cat_bubble:

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22 minutes ago, Orcinus1 said:

I think the reason the 457, went was no body would buy Thunderer, they would just fit the 457,s to Conqueror should they wish to be " Funky "

 

Thunderer is a much better ship than Conq with 457s :cap_yes:

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3 minutes ago, Orcinus1 said:

May One Enquirer why it is Sir?

 

Basicly they changed the guns (better dispersion on Thunderer / no sAP) but in return it doesnt have the Zombie heal conqueror has.

So Thunderer is a different ship than 457 Conq.

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*narrator voice*

 

Watch as one man fights injustice, against a large dictatorship, forcing him to fight for his and our rights.

 

You May take his ship guns, but you can never take his...

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Salentine said:

surely the question should be why would you use the 457's on the conq to start with?

 

while i agree with this question i also believe that wg should compensate the gold camo on that ship and then throw in some more doubloons (2-5k) for trouble

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Considering the changes to the Conqueror it would be fair they offer an optional gold refund for the camo.

 

Although the majority of us who have the Conqueror used the 16" guns anyway and we got a fair refund if we had researched the 18" guns, it would be a nice gesture on WG's part to those who preferred the 18" option and it would only be a small number of people anyway who would probably take up the refund. 

 

I'm of course assuming a refund in doubloons would be what's offered going by past precedence, I'm also well aware some would still complain about that because hey its the internet complaining is what we do (PS that last comment wasn't aimed at anyone specifically here Im just be a realist about the online world).

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On 9/25/2019 at 12:52 PM, DFens_666 said:

 

Thunderer is a much better ship than Conq with 457s :cap_yes:

that means that AP are working like on kremlin??

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On 9/25/2019 at 2:59 PM, lovelacebeer said:

Considering the changes to the Conqueror it would be fair they offer an optional gold refund for the camo.

 

Although the majority of us who have the Conqueror used the 16" guns anyway and we got a fair refund if we had researched the 18" guns, it would be a nice gesture on WG's part to those who preferred the 18" option and it would only be a small number of people anyway who would probably take up the refund. 

 

I'm of course assuming a refund in doubloons would be what's offered going by past precedence, I'm also well aware some would still complain about that because hey its the internet complaining is what we do (PS that last comment wasn't aimed at anyone specifically here Im just be a realist about the online world).

WG have to be nice.to find nice solution. not dubloons. for me will be ok, transfer camo to another ship.  

voting is clear...but.., i still see injustice

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The fair option would be to offer doubloons for everything that costs doubloons, half the price all around and full refund for say one month after major changes in overall mechanics and ANY ship specific change (wather its generally considered buff or nerf) many people that are now reluctant to spend any cash at all would do it more freely if they new they can get their money back if an unwonted change happens, also this way many of the nerfs that were cut down by the comunity in the past and hence had to be dropped would likely be considered in a different light and mught have passed...

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In common sense, when making a drastic change on a ship,

you should get compensation, but in reality, you are getting it in the form of Fxp you spent on those guns.

 

Are you right? can say yes... Because you can actually say, Those are the only guns I use on that ship, now they are gone I'm not gonna play it. So my prem camo will be useless.

You gonna get anything out of it? neeaah! I don't think so..

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IMHO the OP has a fair and valid point.

 

In effect WG has carried out a bait-and-switch on its customers. Now the FXP, credits and other in-game compensations are fairly irrelevant - however the real money cost of a perma-cammo is most definitely not.

 

Conqueror owners should absolutely have been offered full refund in cash or doubloons for the perma-cammo.

 

 

As an entirely separate matter, IMHO Conqueror 457 owners should have also have received a Thunderer for free or at a significant discount. It was an appalling decision by WG to take away half of a ship that players may have spent months or even years grinding for - simply to drain more resources out of an imbalanced game economy (or monetize it, if Thunderer happens to appear later in the shop)>

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