[-AP-] OzgurAtlas Players 79 posts 10,897 battles Report post #1 Posted September 23, 2019 I wanted to make a thread about a interesting ship that could be a t5-t6 premium in the game. And honestly im so bored to see "reskinned" premium ships like Thunderer, Yoshino, Ohio etc. IJN Ise : Her key feature could be using fighter and spotting aircraft consumables at the same time with decrease cooldown and that could be (maybe) fun If you people know unique ships like this please make suggestions to the post. Even if nothing changes at least i get more ships name to read on wiki for fun. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SKM] LARIDER Players 36 posts 12,496 battles Report post #2 Posted September 23, 2019 Look what i found! That looks interesting... 3 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanD4rk Players 395 posts 9,000 battles Report post #3 Posted September 23, 2019 Mogami after refitting. It had just the 3 turrets in front and air deck on the back with small amount of aircraft capacity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] OzgurAtlas Players 79 posts 10,897 battles Report post #4 Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, DRA_Harkesh said: Look what i found! That looks interesting... Well... Good news it was in the game. Bad news, not anymore... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SKM] LARIDER Players 36 posts 12,496 battles Report post #5 Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ozgur7freeman said: Well... Good news it was in the game. Bad news, not anymore... I'm totally aware of that. But in a world of seriously fk'd up CV's and incoming Subs there should always be a place for some cruisers with amazing TK-capabilities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #6 Posted September 23, 2019 Those airdeck cruisers might have had some utility IRL pacific theatre but hardly fit in this game as it is and as they are... Say that Mogami for instance... Double spotter/fighter stuff has no sence at all when you think of it couse what do you really gain? If you make the planes some kind of automatons/consumables like bot controlled to strike stuff its ridiculous. you basically have an aoba firepower in a T10 match with a RNG gimmick most players will shoot down instantly... If you make the planes player controlled then what do you get is a mini cv of sorts but what happens with te main hull while you are away? How big a sqad does it get? How is it balanced? DCP? Fire duration etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFingers Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 3,242 posts Report post #7 Posted September 23, 2019 I don't care that it's silly, I need my 18" fix at T4! 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #8 Posted September 23, 2019 WG has no idea how to implement hybid ships. Some IJN cruiser models are finished and waiting for implementation for over two years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] OzgurAtlas Players 79 posts 10,897 battles Report post #9 Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Those airdeck cruisers might have had some utility IRL pacific theatre but hardly fit in this game as it is and as they are... Say that Mogami for instance... Double spotter/fighter stuff has no sence at all when you think of it couse what do you really gain? If you make the planes some kind of automatons/consumables like bot controlled to strike stuff its ridiculous. you basically have an aoba firepower in a T10 match with a RNG gommick most players will shoot down instantly... If you make the planes player controlled then what do you get is a miji cv of sorts but what happens with te main hull while you are away? My recommendation (Ijn Ise) could be handy at t6 which is most double cv mm goin on and spotter plane for long range advantage obviously. So there is no harm for a interesting ship like that. Her fighter consumable can be 4 fighter instead of 3 and as i said decreases cooldown on aircraft consumables. Rest of the standard bb play style. And i think its looking so cool :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #10 Posted September 23, 2019 The only problem is - who would buy it? Besides if you put Aoba with a permanent spotter and fighter in the tier with the Aoba... Edit: Reallised you are talking about the BB conversion - same goes for it, basically Myogi firepower of T4 will meet 9x406mm, good luck... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TDD] Dragon200052 Players 72 posts 7,289 battles Report post #11 Posted September 23, 2019 They could Feasibly do the Tone just make her a standard heavy Cruiser with 4x2 203mm guns with a slightly shorter reload than Mogami (with 203s) due to having less guns overall. Standard Japanese style play but make her have an Enhanced fighter plane consumable instead of launching 3 she Could Launch 4 or 5 and maybe it lasts a little bit longer maybe 1 minute 30 seconds. Not sure if Tone would fit with T8 play now like she was intend for but T7-T8 could work for her. Now with Ise you can encounter a problem while Tone could only launch fighters and spotters, Ise could launch dive bombers and as much as i would love to see Ise in WOWS (especially since she is in Wows blitz) and as much as i wish you could do the same as in blitz where you can RTS style auto drop on a selected target but with the AA system im not sure how it would work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,428 battles Report post #12 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ozgur7freeman said: My recommendation (Ijn Ise) could be handy at t6 which is most double cv mm goin on and spotter plane for long range advantage obviously. So there is no harm for a interesting ship like that. Her fighter consumable can be 4 fighter instead of 3 and as i said decreases cooldown on aircraft consumables. Good suggestion! WG could give the Ise both plane-consumables at the same time (spotter and fighter) and also increase the amount of fighters, as suggested. That would give her a unique gimmick, also a realistic one. A BB with a constant swarm around it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] OzgurAtlas Players 79 posts 10,897 battles Report post #13 Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yedwy said: The only problem is - who would buy it? 1 minute ago, Dragon200052 said: They could Feasibly do the Tone just make her a standard heavy Cruiser with 4x2 203mm guns with a slightly shorter reload than Mogami (with 203s) due to having less guns overall. Standard Japanese style play but make her have an Enhanced fighter plane consumable instead of launching 3 she Could Launch 4 or 5 and maybe it lasts a little bit longer maybe 1 minute 30 seconds. Not sure if Tone would fit with T8 play now like she was intend for but T7-T8 could work for her. Now with Ise you can encounter a problem while Tone could only launch fighters and spotters, Ise could launch dive bombers and as much as i would love to see Ise in WOWS (especially since she is in Wows blitz) and as much as i wish you could do the same as in blitz where you can RTS style auto drop on a selected target but with the AA system im not sure how it would work. I wasnt know it was in the blitz :/ But thinking of that a bb launching 4 dive bombers (for example) is really fun. And balance is that you cant use your ship like in cv while airborne and small air group can be work with high regeneration time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Players 460 posts Report post #14 Posted September 23, 2019 A very small CV...could be fun...or not 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] OzgurAtlas Players 79 posts 10,897 battles Report post #15 Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Nibloke said: A very small CV...could be fun...or not It can be a low tier premium german cv with high tier planes with small groups. Like in Saipan. Really cool! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #16 Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, ozgur7freeman said: Wery well, hope you get the ship you wish m8, my Alabama and Sinop await you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] OzgurAtlas Players 79 posts 10,897 battles Report post #17 Posted September 23, 2019 We found our t4 German cv 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9 Players 460 posts Report post #18 Posted September 23, 2019 If we are still talking about different. How a bout German and JPN carriers with gun. And a BB with a lot of planes... A German CV with 2x3 280mm guns IJN Tone is also missing. Was in the game 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] Redcap375 Players 4,371 posts 15,295 battles Report post #19 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, VanD4rk said: Mogami after refitting. It had just the 3 turrets in front and air deck on the back with small amount of aircraft capacity. One HE shell would sort all those planes out.Lol But i would love to see this in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Sigimundus Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 6,566 posts 16,011 battles Report post #20 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, DRA_Harkesh said: Look what i found! That looks interesting... I want the version With midget submarines It can work same as CV but instead of squadron of planes it will launch the submarines 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanD4rk Players 395 posts 9,000 battles Report post #21 Posted September 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Those airdeck cruisers might have had some utility IRL pacific theatre but hardly fit in this game as it is and as they are... Say that Mogami for instance... Double spotter/fighter stuff has no sence at all when you think of it couse what do you really gain? If you make the planes some kind of automatons/consumables like bot controlled to strike stuff its ridiculous. you basically have an aoba firepower in a T10 match with a RNG gimmick most players will shoot down instantly... If you make the planes player controlled then what do you get is a mini cv of sorts but what happens with te main hull while you are away? How big a sqad does it get? How is it balanced? DCP? Fire duration etc... This kind of hybrid ships are indeed hard to implement in this game to be "balans" and desirable for the players to buy them. I believe they have to be strike aircraft to compensate the loss in firepower, but if the squad is lower in number can it penetrate the AA of target ships and also deal significant dmg ? The player might control just one weapon system at one time I believe: either main guns or strike squadron and WG can always make the main guns as secondary ones will the player will be in the squadron mode. But then again can this be viable and attractive for significant number of players to worth the time creating this kind of ships? (I have no idea). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #22 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MrFingers said: I don't care that it's silly, I need my 18" fix at T4! I've proposed earlier that they could include the Courageous class with two gun modules: the dual 15" turrets as the default choice, with the 18" meme guns as an option. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanD4rk Players 395 posts 9,000 battles Report post #23 Posted September 23, 2019 I got into this abomination 2 months ago. THIS HAS TO BE THE MOST WILD THING I HAVE SEEN ! It's so f*cking wild and exotic that even WG could not conceive something like this from their imagination. It's a SUB with DUAL 203 mm guns, torps and surprise A TORPEDO AIRCRAFT !!! Source of the first picture and more info about it: http://www.hisutton.com/Surcouf.html. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOZFFVII Players 2,848 posts 5,365 battles Report post #24 Posted September 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, VanD4rk said: and surprise A TORPEDO AIRCRAFT !!! That's just a floatplane. It was supposed to be used for recon and gunnery fire control (because you obviously can't direct a 203mm turret very well without a mast). Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine Aircraft-carrying submarines. Just to add to the weird IJN designs of trying to cram planes onto everything after losing four carriers at Midway. Other ships I would like to add: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erebus-class_monitor If you were to ask me, I'd design the Ise-class, Retrofitted Mogami-class, Tone-class and i-400-class with buffed plane HP, but increased plane replenishment times. Essentially the idea would be that when used at the right time you can send up planes to spot for your team and do some supplemental damage, but your main focus is still on whatever your main class is. Basically, they act as mini-cvs that take the slot of whatever their hull class is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #25 Posted September 23, 2019 Yes the Russians actually built it, but guess what it was impossible to steer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
