submarines SUBMARINES - discussion, feedback, opinions

[lovelacebeer]

3 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

True, but then again, imagine if that DD had a friend (in the air, in this case). 

 

 

Well true like all of us surface peasants the angels of death from above are not to be under estimated (I had a lot of fun on the PTS using my Ark Royal for example) but you cannot guarantee the CV is always going to be there to support every DD/ sub engagement.

[BLUB__BLUB]

19 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

Well true like all of us surface peasants the angels of death from above are not to be under estimated (I had a lot of fun on the PTS using my Ark Royal for example) but you cannot guarantee the CV is always going to be there to support every DD/ sub engagement.

How did you do that, I could only use "silver" ships? Or do you mean the CV-test. 

However we also tested lots of other stuff. BBs work as well. Queen E can one-shot-blap a sub, from 15km.

Cruisers are useful, too. No sub will get near my DD buddy!!

 

Teams that do not support their DD deserve to lose, really. 

And that's it - more teamplay required. 

 

[lovelacebeer]

13 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

How did you do that, I could only use "silver" ships? Or do you mean the CV-test. 

However we also tested lots of other stuff. BBs work as well. Queen E can one-shot-blap a sub, from 15km.

Cruisers are useful, too. No sub will get near my DD buddy!!

 

Teams that do not support their DD deserve to lose, really. 

And that's it - more teamplay required. 

 

 

Weird on the last PTS subs mode I could use any ship I wanted that was tier 6 premium or silver. 

[BLUB__BLUB]

Just now, lovelacebeer said:

Weird on the last PTS subs mode I could use any ship I wanted that was tier 6 premium or silver. 

Maybe I FF-ed it up (did you have to "buy it"?). Anyway yes those subs vs CV... 

I bombed them, torped them and rocketed them... 

[lovelacebeer]

Just now, BLUB__BLUB said:

Maybe I FF-ed it up (did you have to "buy it"?). Anyway yes those subs vs CV... 

I bombed them, torped them and rocketed them... 

 

I just have it in my live client and it got copied over along with everything else and when I wanted to use her or Warspite, Devonshire etc as they were tier 6 I could. 

 

Still it is funny seeing people who still think subs are going to be some kind of counter to CVs. 

[CptBarney]

ere we go bois.

[BLUB__BLUB]

5 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

I just have it in my live client and it got copied over along with everything else and when I wanted to use her or Warspite, Devonshire etc as they were tier 6 I could. 

Uhhh... well that may be the problem. I had to trick it into installing test-server by using my Twitch-account.

 

5 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

Still it is funny seeing people who still think subs are going to be some kind of counter to CVs. 

Well yeah maybe if they ram them. 

[Nexis_Finn]

Vor 17 Stunden, vonduus sagte:

So - when can we expect subs on the main server?

27.05.2020 in the seperately game-mode "Submarine-Battles" 

[Nexis_Finn]

Am 24.5.2020 um 20:11, Deckeru_Maiku sagte:

I've seen nothing. I very rarely watch any youtube videos ablut games I play, as i just can't understand the fascination of watching people play a game that I can rather play myself... and because usually the voices of the people recording those videos are beyond anything that I could stand for a prolonged amount of time...

You have not participated on test-server and you have not seen any videos about it. So what do you know about it at all?

You know that you hate it, but that's it, you do not even know why you hate it.

So your hate and antipathy is completely unfounded.

 

Am 24.5.2020 um 20:11, Deckeru_Maiku sagte:

I wrote before already, that I will participate... a couple times at least... using my DD like it is supposed ro, with this new threat in game: I stay close to the BBs - so.. near the map edge - and just read what's going on in the chat. It probably will be hilarious... I'm really looking forward to this :)

So you want to join the game-mode but ignoring submarines? That is not really participating the test, it is a boycott. It borders on sabotage.

If you read the chat, you will only register that they blame you for beeing idle, afk or a beeing bot. You will doing no favor to your battleship-mates.

Nothing will happen in chat, except of that they blaming you for your boycott-playstyle.

 

Like i already said: The sh!t will not hit the fan, the sh!t(storm) will hit you. 

 

Maybe you should playing with plastic-ships in your bathub Instead of ruining the gameplay for your bb-mates by boycott.

 

Am 24.5.2020 um 20:11, Deckeru_Maiku sagte:

Wanna take a bet? I predict that submarines will soon^tm be implemented into random battles without any more then minimal changes. Some people will start to whine on the forum about how WG should have done proper testing - what they haven't and never will

You had not participated on test-server and you will even boycott the important upcoming influence-test, but you are complaining: "how WG should have done proper testing - what they haven't and never will"? 

Do you recognize the paradox? ... You accuse WG of what you do yourself.

 

Lets replace the "WG" in this sentence with "Deckeru_Maiku"

"... how Deckeru_Maiku should have done proper testing - what he haven't and never will"

 

Ehm ... yes, that sounds better and it is closer to the reality at same time 

 

Am 24.5.2020 um 20:11, Deckeru_Maiku sagte:

I rather expect them to have a negative influence on the game by their presence alone

I have tested it in any ship-class, even dd's and bb's. But i have not registered any negative influence in game.

As dd i was finally not longer bored from previous gameplay. Finally i had with the uboat-hunt a exciting task, additional to the boring spotting, stealth-torping and cap-stealing. So the new gamemode make dd's for me more interesting and i am looking forward to play more dd's in future.

 

Am 24.5.2020 um 20:11, Deckeru_Maiku sagte:

I rather expect them to have a negative influence on the game by their presence alone

Founded on which knowledge? Founded on which knowledge, if you have not seen any video or not participated anything?

Don't answer, it was a rhetorical question.

 

I log out of the discussion with you, because it has no sense. Byebye 

 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

52 minutes ago, _Nexis981_ said:

#1 - You have not participated on test-server and you have not seen any videos about it. So what do you know about it at all?

 

#2 - So you want to join the game-mode but ignoring submarines? That is not really participating the test, it is a boycott. It borders on sabotage.

...

 

Like i already said: The sh!t will not hit the fan, the sh!t(storm) will hit you. 

 

#2a - Maybe you should playing with plastic-ships in your bathub Instead of ruining the gameplay for your bb-mates by boycott.

 

#3 - I have tested it in any ship-class, even dd's and bb's. But i have not registered any negative influence in game.

 

#4 - Founded on which knowledge? Founded on which knowledge, if you have not seen any video or not participated anything?

 

#5 - I log out of the discussion with you, because it has no sense. Byebye 

 

#1 - reading posts here and news by WG themselves and watching WGs videos about sub play offers a lot of information. Add to that the experience of a couple thousand games played with the splendid members of this community and one should be able to forsee what will happen when subs hit the random player pool.

 

#2 - yep. Boycott is a way to call it :) And I will feast on all the salty tears offered to me in the chat :)

 

#2a - ooooh... a personal insult... and a really nasty one... "BB mates"... tsk, tsk, tsk... look at my signature and make a guess how much I might care about "ruining the gameplay of BB players"... a hint: probably as much as they care about ruining my gameplay ^^

 

#3 - In a bot heavy surrounding... in CoOp CVs don't have any negative influence either, as WG bots are only marginally brighter than the average potato. So of course subs will work in CoOp battles... or a bot heavy test server. You thinking that it will be the same when they hit randoms is telling a lot about you though *lol*

 

#4 - experience with this community and how they react on new game mechanics. And a couple thousand games played with them.

 

#5 - it had no sense from the start, but for a different reason than the one you might think of ^^

[POIfection]

This feels like the emissions scandal at VW. I bet a few people think Subs in Randoms are a really good idea and push it through thinking it will make them $$. Later on they realise its toxic and a decent % of the player base feel cheated by the imbalance. Players leave and revenue drops. Then WG realise they don't have porsche to bail them out. 

 

I've watched videos of the Subs in PTS .. they look awful .. shot gunning a DD with torps .. what a joke.

 

Also, if you think DDs in Random games are going to hunt Subs .. lol .. I look forward to seeing that .. well hopefully not actually (fingers crossed Subs never make Randoms).

[BielayaSmert]

5 hours ago, _Nexis981_ said:

 

As dd i was finally not longer bored from previous gameplay. Finally i had with the uboat-hunt a exciting task, additional to the boring spotting, stealth-torping and cap-stealing

 

What?..... WHAAAAAT?

 

 

 

Ahhh... thanks wows-numbers.com... now I can understand everything.

You have no idea about destroyers... absolutely NO IDEA.

[BLUB__BLUB]

7 hours ago, POIfection said:

I've watched videos of the Subs in PTS .. they look awful .. shot gunning a DD with torps .. what a joke.

It is, they are showing their "best of". I did it with a division mate, and usually we went BB+DD.

Then he killed just about all of them. And yes the subs managed to kill some DDs. Usually 2 out of 4. 

Because they were... b0ts. The subs never were bots. 

My mate in the DD usually managed to kill all of them. Maybe I also got one in the BB. 

When I took a CV (+DD) I managed to kill more. Same in cruiser. 

 

I never saw a the subs kill all the DDs. Sometimes there was a good player and what he did was go kill subs.

[Nexis_Finn]

Vor 9 Stunden, BielayaSmert sagte:

 

What?..... WHAAAAAT?

 

Ahhh... thanks wows-numbers.com... now I can understand everything.

You have no idea about destroyers... absolutely NO IDEA.

Look at my profile, i played 287 pvp-games as destroyer. That are 14,88% of my whole game-time.

My profile: https://worldofwarships.eu/de/community/accounts/538724855-_Nexis981_/!/pvp/overview/

 

It is not ment as hate (#nohate), it is just my opinion: i felt just bored. And i can asssure you that i have played it like intended.

I spotted the enemys ... i kept my dd in range to torp out of stealth ... hoped that the torps are hitting ... i spotted more ... if necessary i avoided that the enemys invade our cap ... if necessary i catched up a cap ... spotted more and more.

Often i gone out of the match with 0-1 Kills but many spotting damage. I felt useless, even if the statistic at the end said with 1st - 3rd place that i was not useless. I felt useless and bored.

 

I decided it is not my favorite playstyle. Have played mostly panasian dd's if that does matter.

Half year ago i bought the Blyskawica, nice to have, but it was still not my favorite playstyle.

 

Please do not feel insulted, just because it is not my favorite playstyle.

I have seen on your profile, you played zero games with cv's, i guess it is just not your playstyle.

 

But:

As i played dd on test-server and as i hunted human played submarines, i had finally a challenge, it made really finally fun for me. I did not longer feel useless or bored.

I was astonished how easy i could kill the submarines I used a trick so that i need only one waterbomb-run, but i do not want to reveal that trick, because i want become a submarine-main 

It does not change the general playstyle of dd's, you can kill submarines in drive-by-style. Additional to the normal dd-job.

Most of you think: "omg submarines, a new enemy for dd's "

But you need not to fear about them, they cannot harm you very easy. DD's are very dodgy.

If you are closer than 1 km, the submarine torpedos are not longer guided and you can dodge them easier.

And as soon as you are directly above them, submarines will be your victim. 

 

I just recommend to try it out as soon at it is availabe.

 

Now you can see how important it is to try somethings out. Not just to read about it or just to watch videos about it.

The same happened to me in point of the cv's. The old playstyle was not mine at all. After i tried out the new reworked playstyle on test-server, it was more interesting to me, because it was more action.

 

It is just one of many opinions out there. No human is the same. Everybody has different tastes and favorites.

 

PS: Here a dd vs. sub -video:

(if it is muted, click on "watch at youtube.com" in the bottom right corner to hear his comments)

[MementoMori_6030]

Somebody might want to look up the meaning of "rental".

[Deckeru_Maiku]

8 hours ago, _Nexis981_ said:

Look at my profile, i played 287 pvp-games as destroyer. That are 14,88% of my whole game-time.

Winrate 49%, average damage 19640, WoWs S&N PR 591 in DDs... wow... and considering that are not even your worst stats... WOW...

 

Of course having utterly necrotic stats doesn't mean you're not entitled to have an opinion... but please understand that many people will dismiss it as utterly unhinged.

Alas, You're a perfect example of how the "average WoWs player" probably looks like. :) Which probably is a reason why WG thinks they can get through with the implementation of subs without losing too many cashcows...

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Somebody might want to look up the meaning of "rental".

Spoiler

 

I know... 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

9 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

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I know... 

rental, Blub.. rental.. not mental :)

[BLUB__BLUB]

20 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

rental, Blub.. rental.. not mental :)

Well  that's a rental IMO. And the thing is, you get screwed over nicely too. 

Similarities abound... 

[159Hunter]

6 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Well  that's a rental IMO. And the thing is, you get screwed over nicely too. 

Similarities abound... 

Though your rental has actual potential...

[BLUB__BLUB]

8 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

Though your rental has actual potential...

Yeah but in the end the same thing might happen. 

[Zlovenia1]

On 5/25/2020 at 9:06 PM, _Nexis981_ said:

27.05.2020 in the seperately game-mode "Submarine-Battles" 

THANK YOU! I am very happy you are putting submarines into the game! And that videos just look awesome...like we don't have to test it any further...THEY ARE ALREADY LOOKING PERFECT FOR ME 

[ForlornSailor]

11 hours ago, _Nexis981_ said:

Look at my profile, i played 287 pvp-games as destroyer. That are 14,88% of my whole game-time.

My profile: https://worldofwarships.eu/de/community/accounts/538724855-_Nexis981_/!/pvp/overview/

 

It is not ment as hate (#nohate), it is just my opinion: i felt just bored. And i can asssure you that i have played it like intended.

I spotted the enemys ... i kept my dd in range to torp out of stealth ... hoped that the torps are hitting ... i spotted more ... if necessary i avoided that the enemys invade our cap ... if necessary i catched up a cap ... spotted more and more.

Often i gone out of the match with 0-1 Kills but many spotting damage. I felt useless, even if the statistic at the end said with 1st - 3rd place that i was not useless. I felt useless and bored.

 

I did. And I dont see it

 

 

You average spotting damage on the DDs does not exceed 20k.

 

 

[Hexxas]

Why havent this submarine event startet yet its 27-05-2020  so it should have been going on for atleast 4:47 hours now ?

[gabberworld]

1 hour ago, Hexxas said:

Why havent this submarine event startet yet its 27-05-2020  so it should have been going on for atleast 4:47 hours now ?

it started now