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In all seriousness, does anyone know if there is a clan (etc.) that offers remedial help for a really poor player? I have been playing since the Closed Beta, I own nearly all the Premium ships, yet my average damage is half what it should be. I am sick of being one of the lowest-scoring players in every battle. HELP!

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

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34 minutes ago, Bluestrategist said:

I own nearly all the Premium ships, yet my average damage is half what it should be

Well, owning all premium ships doesnt mean you are or will become a good player!
I have seen many players like that complaining that they have premium ships but their stats or damage are bad, premium ships doesnt mean you are good player and will have good average damage
As for improving your stats, watch some videos in YT,  try different classes of ships to see what you feel its best for you and you are performing good at it! And maybe if you have a free day, play as many games as you can with your favoritte ship

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Thanks for the advice. Perhaps playing a different ship every battle is a big part of the problem. I'll focus on one ship and try to "get gud".

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Rather than YT your best bet is probably to watch some of the live streams on Twitch.

 

One option might be to watch the replays of your own battles and try to work out what you did right and wrong, possibly if you post a few here others will do the same for you.

 

Looking at your stats, your survival rate is extremely low, which suggests that you are charging in headfirst every game, try to work on surviving longer and the other stats might follow.

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6 minutes ago, Bluestrategist said:

Thanks for the advice. Perhaps playing a different ship every battle is a big part of the problem. I'll focus on one ship and try to "get gud".

I do this too, playing different ships as soon as my daily win is in the bag. I'm pretty sure from own experience that it doesn't help with getting good lifetime stats and results as opposed to specializing. Only specialists get a really good feel for what their ship can and can not do.

 

So it's a great idea to every now and then focus on one of the ships you enjoy. Until you get bored and you play different ships again. Rinse and repeat.

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Have a look at Flamu's Youtube channel, and  see if he's done a guide for the ships that you're interested in. I'm not a very good player, but he's given me some very valuable pointers with certain ships, including the Nurnberg and the low to mid-tier Japanese DDs. Some people describe him as a little acerbic, but I like to think he just doesn't suffer fools gladly, which these days is an admirable trait. :Smile_Default:

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1 hour ago, Bluestrategist said:

In all seriousness, does anyone know if there is a clan (etc.) that offers remedial help for a really poor player? I have been playing since the Closed Beta, I own nearly all the Premium ships, yet my average damage is half what it should be. I am sick of being one of the lowest-scoring players in every battle. HELP!

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

 

1. Pick you favorite ship

2. Watch all the videos on it

3. Only play this ship and nothing else at all

4. Play it until you are above average in it and know it inside and out

5. Master aiming your guns

6. Learn map awareness

7. Learn where you need to be and when in this ship

8. Learn where you need to be in 5 minutes time and head there already

9. Learn about angling

 

Once you have mastered this one ship in that you feel you're above average only then pick another ship and repeat the exercise. 

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Thank you to all who answered. I have hope again - as long as I work on doing well with one ship at a time. Much appreciated!

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1 hour ago, Bluestrategist said:

In all seriousness, does anyone know if there is a clan (etc.) that offers remedial help for a really poor player? I have been playing since the Closed Beta, I own nearly all the Premium ships, yet my average damage is half what it should be. I am sick of being one of the lowest-scoring players in every battle. HELP!

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

Focus on 1 line at a time. Whilst taking your time to learn it. Start and stay in the lower tiers till you feel comfortable to move up. Rinse and repeat. Along with all the other advice such as watching YT vids from good CC's and players etc. 

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You've probably already played enough to have a decent idea what things do.

 

To get good, drop back down to a much lower tier  - Id normally recommend tier 4, but its rather full of CV at the moment.

Lower tiers have newer players, theres less factors to consider (no radar etc), and is generally slightly more forgiving.

 

If you havent already, go into the settings and turn on alt interface, last known positions on map, and names on map. Information is vital for winning. Enlarge your map so its easy to read. I have mine set on slightly translucent so I can still see things to the right of my ship.

 

Look at the mini map a lot. If you drive a car, think how often you're suppossed to check your mirrors. Thats how much you should be looking at the mini map.

 

Use this to know whats going on so you have all the info before you commit - which enemies have been seen, and where are they headed? Which enemies haven't been seen yet? If the entire enemy team was seen at the other end of the map you know this cap is safe to take. If half of them havent been spotted yet, you may be about to blunder into them.

 

Using this knowledge, try to predict ahead what's going to happen, and act on it before it happens. Seeing a flank is going to collapse allows you to get into position to deal with it when it does fall.

 

The big one for me, is you dont have to rush. The game is 20 mins. You dont need to die 2 mins in. The game isn't going to end because you didnt cap immediately and instead kept the enemy spotted until their numbers were thinned. Similarly, if there's 2 of you on a flank and 8 enemies are there, you dont need to do some kamikaze fight as it wont work out well. Relocating to a stronger position is probably more beneficial.

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2 hours ago, Bluestrategist said:

In all seriousness, does anyone know if there is a clan (etc.) that offers remedial help for a really poor player? I have been playing since the Closed Beta, I own nearly all the Premium ships, yet my average damage is half what it should be. I am sick of being one of the lowest-scoring players in every battle. HELP!

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

Plan ahead.

Know that when you sail into a cap the radars will go off.

Plan for someone launching torpedoes past that island because you were spotted a minute ago. 

Get into a routine when firing. Aiming a salvo every few seconds is usually more accurate than just holding down the left mouse button. 

 

Generally pay attention and think ahead.

 

I play in Australia with a ping of 180 and generally I'm playing to distract myself from chronic pain, so generally my good days are few and far between, but when I have one I've done all those things.

 

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I'll second the notion of "pick your favourite ship/line and focus on understanding that for a bit". Once you've decided what that is going to be, and maybe have done a bit more research (like YT/Twitch, as others have suggested), you could also consider uploading a replay or two on here to get specific feedback on how you played those battles and what you could have done differently. Ideally, those would be "average" battles for you - dont cherrypick your best one of the month, but also not one where you get nuked after two minutes. The more you do (and do wrong) the more advice we can give you.

 

Oh and sidenote - had a very quick glance at your stats. Sure they're not exactly brilliant, but you're not that far off 50% winrate even in some of your higher tier ships. I've seen much much worse - and you've already taken the single most important step toward gitting gud: recognising that there is some more gitting gud to do on your end, and admitting that not just to yourself but also to people that can (and will) help you. So you're on the right track :cap_like:

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9 hours ago, Bluestrategist said:

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

 

No one will laugh at stats from players looking to improve, good players usually didn't start out good on their own automatically as well, most have to put in some effort!

9 hours ago, Bluestrategist said:

In all seriousness, does anyone know if there is a clan (etc.) that offers remedial help for a really poor player? 

We used to ran SGWA which would be open for people to sign up and take classes / training room sessions or find someone to division with. SGWA forum is no more, but if you add me in game I am open for some division games :)

 

PM me in game btw, I also promised someone else and after I added his name I totally never spoke with him and now I can't recall the name  ( and my contact list is rather long ). 

6 hours ago, Tyrendian89 said:

Oh and sidenote - had a very quick glance at your stats. Sure they're not exactly brilliant, but you're not that far off 50% winrate even in some of your higher tier ships. I've seen much much worse - and you've already taken the single most important step toward gitting gud: recognising that there is some more gitting gud to do on your end, and admitting that not just to yourself but also to people that can (and will) help you. So you're on the right track :cap_like:

Ow boy ( @Bluestrategist ), and then you sad you're afraid people will laugh at you? If you're close to 50% it means you're actually better as average :Smile_honoring:

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9 hours ago, Bluestrategist said:

my average damage is half what it should be.

 

Are your basics set right?

 

- esc -> settings -> controls -> set alternative interface -> full

- when playing game hit ctrl -> minimap gear icon up right on the minimap -> Check "ship names on the minimap" and "ship last position"

- press "+" button a few times to make the minimap bigger.

 

That's an instant 10% more damage and 5% more WR

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@Bluestrategist I think most forumites would not mind to join you for a game or two.

You can just contact me in game so we can go together.

I am by no means a good player, but at least I know why it is so (I am very impatient and overextending all the time).

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9 hours ago, Bluestrategist said:

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

No reason to, you ask for help. You shall receive. So Average Damage is to low?
Well there "could" be more of course. But Damage is a metric that improves with the overall Gameplay. Learning to position set ambushs in Destroyers. Learning how to move and Position on the Map. etc. Premiumships do not grant an advantage in terms of Gameplay as they are mostly a diffrent Option of the maintree. So yeah. Play the Silverships learn how they behave and then conclude how you have to play against them. It really is a process, most players behave a certain way. Try to adapt a little to that and learn the ships of your Tier :) that really is all one could say to you.

Watching Youtube helps but you have to keep in mind the Guys that make videos have a lot of the aforementioned stuff nailed down.

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10 ore fa, Bluestrategist ha scritto:

In all seriousness, does anyone know if there is a clan (etc.) that offers remedial help for a really poor player? I have been playing since the Closed Beta, I own nearly all the Premium ships, yet my average damage is half what it should be. I am sick of being one of the lowest-scoring players in every battle. HELP!

Feel free to  laugh at my stats, although that's not why I'm here. I am just totally fed up with sucking at my favourite game.

Feel free to contact me ingame, we can division if you want a help :) 

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