Submarines: Beta Sign-up and Q&A

[Episparh]

1 minute ago, CroPanzer said:

Can't adapt to new meta?

How terrible

And how you reached that conclusion?

The last ranked sprint shows that there is no adaptation... You just make others #JustDodge. And WG fine tuned Hosho and Langley... Making them the ultimate seal clubbers and stats padders ship. 

 

There is just one counter to CV - it is called a cluster of brain dead players hugging sadly in one quadrant of the map. 

[Sunleader]

22 minutes ago, CroPanzer said:

So wg was wrong by making their least played class fun to play?

 

Oh and even more balanced than before?

 

Shock and awe!

 

If you make a Class Fun to Play by making it Overpowered as f*** then yes. That was wrong.

Sure you make that Class Fun to Play by giving it Semi Godmode Abilities. But if you Frustrate the Fun of all other Classes by this. Then you have not really Won anything.

 

Gladly I dont think we have to Worry on Submarines with that.

With the low Oxygen Reserves they Showed. Subs will like be Underpowered rather than Overpowered.

At least at First.

 

[gizaman]

The 12 player maximum of random games will be hard to play around. We need more spots in a game.

 

Another point is that homing torps should not be in the game.....Why can the tier 10 swedish destroyer not have homing torps then? like in reality.

 

Tests seen from first videos of the subs show that they can rather easy avoid being hit by depth charges...and with that crazy stealth it is gonna be hard.

 

And what if the CV player is in division with the sub player....hunt the destroyer down.

[Episparh]

1 minute ago, Sunleader said:

 

If you make a Class Fun to Play by making it Overpowered as f*** then yes. That was wrong.

Sure you make that Class Fun to Play by giving it Semi Godmode Abilities. But if you Frustrate the Fun of all other Classes by this. Then you have not really Won anything.

 

Gladly I dont think we have to Worry on Submarines with that.

With the low Oxygen Reserves they Showed. Subs will like be Underpowered rather than Overpowered.

At least at First.

 

Oh, how naive are you.. 

 

 

[MadGunna]

Man I'm amazed at the amount of people that can't be bothered to actually read/listen to what's actually said in the video.

 

Gonna give the class a go, happily.

[Episparh]

2 minutes ago, MadGunna said:

Man I'm amazed at the amount of people that can't be bothered to actually read/listen to what's actually said in the video.

 

Gonna give the class a go, happily.

Oh, I will try them too. But it seems you do not speak WeeGeesh. Go check https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/123667-submarines-questions-and-answers/?do=findComment&comment=3164402

[Miragetank90]

I wish they'd add spots to the team, instead of trying to put the subs in to the existing 12x12. 

 

Maybe 13x13 or 14x14?

Is it a map size/map design issue that is keeping it 12x12?

[per007]

Would it be posibilities to participate in battles without subs???

 

[CroPanzer]

2 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

I wish they'd add spots to the team, instead of trying to put the subs in to the existing 12x12. 

 

Maybe 13x13 or 14x14?

Is it a map size/map design issue that is keeping it 12x12?

That does sound like a good idea, I'd hate for subs to be a more limiting factor on the MM.

[victorem]

For all I see...   Half of the fun of this game is throwing tomatoes at the stage.

....wich of course wouldnt happen if the play was any good. 

I even got tired of telling them how wrong they are.

Do you guys enjoy talking to walls or is it a way of pouring frustation onto the one you can??

I ll take the job if you pay that well.

 

[Wieros]

Ok, we will have submarines, BUT by the time do we get anti-sub ship as well? Like Flower-class corvettes: no torps, but better anti-sub capabilities.

I just wonder. When they started WoWs, they said no subs and no PTs/MGB/MTB/S-boot/MAS... Now they introduce subs ... Next year... ???

[Spore04]

I hope they will add I-400 to the game as IJN t X.  This sub balances itself:

Big and slow

easy to detect

the most durabe during WWII

Great torp range(shimakaze's torps)

 

It would be underwater Yamato: slow, big, with bad concealment, heavy armed ( will punish players even harder).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even if they would implement it's plane hangar with squadron of 3 bombers then it's fitting the new plane mechanics - one drop from 3 planes. Cause advanced AA at t X ships, it would not be most efficient attack but that would be fun to launch planes from a sub. If you want more balance for eventual I-400 then you can just make it's planes one use. I mean : shot down - no getting more in battle. 

[lebed0s]

Fix everything you have broken in last two years. Balance what you already have, listen to your damn CCs and players. Then you can think about adding random stuff that nobody asked for in the first place... 

That is what sensible developers would do.

Also hire a guy who has some kind of clue about the game as a whole with its mechanics and can judge impact of new half baked stuff on current state of things. Apparently you lack such a person on your "team".   

[Stronginthearms]

So you introduce subs are they allowed to attack cruisers and battleships seeing that these ship will not or cannot defend themselves. So it would make sense that subs cant attack them afterall cruisers and battleships can shoot SKY *Edited*

 

 

Edited: Language

[Pikkozoikum]

17 minutes ago, Stronginthearms said:

So you introduce subs are they allowed to attack cruisers and battleships seeing that these ship will not or cannot defend themselves. So it would make sense that subs cant attack them afterall cruisers and battleships can shoot SKY *Edited*

 

 

Edited: Language

Those ships can shoot at the Submarine at surface and at periscope depth.

Underwater the submarine can't get shot, and can't shoot.

[Pikkozoikum]

36 minutes ago, Spore04 said:

I hope they will add I-400 to the game as IJN t X.  This sub balances itself:

Big and slow

easy to detect

the most durabe during WWII

Great torp range(shimakaze's torps)

 

It would be underwater Yamato: slow, big, with bad concealment, heavy armed ( will punish players even harder).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even if they would implement it's plane hangar with squadron of 3 bombers then it's fitting the new plane mechanics - one drop from 3 planes. Cause advanced AA at t X ships, it would not be most efficient attack but that would be fun to launch planes from a sub. If you want more balance for eventual I-400 then you can just make it's planes one use. I mean : shot down - no getting more in battle. 

Here:

 

Guess the I-400 will come as well, when they will go with that submarine

[JollyDodG3R]

Vor 1 Stunde, CroPanzer sagte:

Look at the stats and the winrates/kills and the sort.

 

It's all WAY more toned down than it used to be. 

 

Yeah, I watched iChaseGaming's video about the Tier IV Hosho. Seems totaly toned down ... must be real fun for those poor surface ships on Tier III and IV without any good AA. You really must be living in a parallel universe.

[LoveYouTooBuddy]

Good luck with the submarines WG! 

I clicked to apply! 

I don't think I'm very qualified to give my opinions for those things. I'm a bit weird in a sense that I don't care about trying new things.

I don't like playing "smart" or try to get "op" ships. Playing dds is too much effort for the tired after work me. Playing fast shooting HE spammers is too much mouse clicking for my old finger. Playing sniping map border BBs too boring(also I never learned to shoot accurately ). And playing aircraft carriers... well I don't see them as something I want to play, I didn't play them before the rework, I don't play them now. Actually the only thing you did for me with the cv rework, was neutering my beloved maxed AA Gneisi, my pride and joy .  

Anyways, casual tier 4,5,6,7,8,10 German BBs ("dumb") player here, if you want someone to play those German beasts of ships vs the submarines I can do it in the test area.  I bet I can win against them! If I can kill all those pesky little DDs, I'm sure some subi boiz won't be a problem. 

[Otowi]

One question I have yet to see answered is this: Will subs be available in co-op and eventually operations aswell? Any info there @MrConway  @Crysantos ??

[Hugh_Ruka]

Once subs reach Randoms, I will gravitate to game modes that don't have them.

 

It is a basic principle of game design that interaction between elements from different dimensions cannot be balanced as each element has only limited ways to influence the dimension they are not part of.

 

We have seen this with CVs and subs will be another example. I still wonder why don't they implement attack planes in WoT ... I mean they were a reality in WW2 and I am sure many people would like them. The would play the same as a tank just above ground ... sound like a good idea right ? At least as good as submarines in WoWs ....

[Hanse77SWE]

I follow this channel on YT and they just put this vid up. I feel it fits good right now. It's about taking a step back when things don't work out.

 

[dekjabrist]

It´s really painful to read all this shite here, the testing hasn´t even begun but ranting kids have already gone on a rampage.

 

Don´t like it ? ..............LEAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go and play "the other game "............................................ where you have really annyoing air attacks......

 

So, to tone down the discussion a little bit and make our and WG´s lives easier, I would suggest to just remove those people from game.

If you don´t have any decency towards the developers, if you can´t say "thank you WG for giving us the game" at least once, just go and practice some intercourse with yourself !

[Hanse77SWE]

Just now, dekjabrist said:

Don´t like it ? ..............LEAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the plan.

1 minute ago, dekjabrist said:

just remove those people from game.

No need. I'm going.

1 minute ago, dekjabrist said:

if you can´t say "thank you WG for giving us the game" at least once

That's what I've been saying the last four years.

[dekjabrist]

Well, nice mate, but how about waiting until there are tangible results ffs ???!!!???

[per007]

7 minutes ago, dekjabrist said:

It´s really painful to read all this shite here, the testing hasn´t even begun but ranting kids have already gone on a rampage.

 

Don´t like it ? ..............LEAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go and play "the other game "............................................ where you have really annyoing air attacks......

 

So, to tone down the discussion a little bit and make our and WG´s lives easier, I would suggest to just remove those people from game.

If you don´t have any decency towards the developers, if you can´t say "thank you WG for giving us the game" at least once, just go and practice some intercourse with yourself !

Realy! Do you live in such a Black/white world? I first feeled angry then more like pitty! So all who have oppinions that not syncronice with your should be throw out of the game? I think such a behavior have a kind of name within phsycologikal world...