Alternate Camo bundles in the shop (Warspite, Shinonome, Graf Spee)

[DasTongle]

Just now, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

The exp is important as Commander training. 

Credit bonus is the bonus on top. 

 

I can't play because I'm heading to work. Sorry :) 

You have a misconception there. Commander XP gets calculated from BASE XP .... that XP bonus is for SHIP XP and has no bearing on your Commander XP

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, The_Reichtangle sagte:

Is it? The XP is a stat i flat out ignore because i have no use for it i unless i scrape it off with dubloons. a Captain XP multiplies would be much more desireable. And 35% earning bonus sounds much but you get lot less reward due to the tier allready so it maybe spikes from 350k into 500k on a good match, you can make that much on a higher tier premium. And that included having a good match. We still talk i eat every penetration and then some Warspite and the Moving Wheelchair that feels like it has a flat tire cause it shoot its own wheels Graf Spee. Shinonome would be interesting , if we forget cv's , Atlantas, Belfasts , any DD with a hydro from t6 upward... etc... Long Story short this 3 have been massively power creept and i can understand if you want some more "Rewards" out of them but why pay 16! € for that when you can get a T10 Camo for 2 € More....

Also 35% Credits sounds nice.... doesn't come in the Ballpark of a good t8 Premium match with a few flags.... you'd waste your flags on inferior ships that are having a horrible time with the MM at the moment....

As Trump said Sounds nice... doesn't work.

Uneducated statement. 

100% exp bonus applies to commander exp. 

T6 ships in T8 match make as much as T8 ships against T8 ships. 

You get the high chance to face t5 too since mm was improved effectively seal clubbing in low tiers with extra bonuses. 

 

[Sunleader]

4 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

The exp is important as Commander training. 

Credit bonus is the bonus on top. 

 

I can't play because I'm heading to work. Sorry :) 

 

I think Captain Exp is Calculated Seperately. After all you get Seperate Boosters for it as well. 

 

And Damnit :(

Trying for a Week now to Find you Online. You work too much :P

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Gerade eben, Sunleader sagte:

 

I think Captain Exp is Calculated Seperately. After all you get Seperate Boosters for it as well. 

 

And Damnit :(

Trying for a Week now to Find you Online. You work too much :P

It's not seperate

[Sir_Grzegorz]

As with all the camos. If I already have one, then I do not see a point in having another.

All this ships come with perma camo. If I could pay an 1EURO and exchange the one that I have to the new one, maybe.

But that is still a lot of clicking for marginal gain (at some point, you have more than enough of silver, XP, etc.)

[DasTongle]

9 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

It's not seperate

https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wows/article/10291/#section_0

 

may i direct your educated gaze this way? I clearly states just as it does in the Detailed Calculation that it is seperately though trough the same formula calculates XP (ship) and XP (Captain)

So no that modifier does not apply. If you do not belive me play a game with a Camo and look it up afterward it does show ALL applied modifiers in the screen at the end.

Please refrain calling from calling people uneducated, thats just not nice.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 6 Minuten, The_Reichtangle sagte:

https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wows/article/10291/#section_0

 

may i direct your educated gaze this way? I clearly states just as it does in the Detailed Calculation that it is seperately though trough the same formula calculates XP (ship) and XP (Captain)

So no that modifier does not apply. If you do not belive me play a game with a Camo and look it up afterward it does show ALL applied modifiers in the screen at the end.

OK here you go. 

Equal speed charly London gives 50% exp, not specified as Comm. Exp, still increases it as it does for fxp. 

If exp is not specified it increases ALL 3. 

Now stop spreading your misinformation you are hurting yourself. 

Prems are used as trainers for a reason damnit

[Sunleader]

12 minutes ago, The_Reichtangle said:

https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wows/article/10291/#section_0

 

may i direct your educated gaze this way? I clearly states just as it does in the Detailed Calculation that it is seperately though trough the same formula calculates XP (ship) and XP (Captain)

So no that modifier does not apply. If you do not belive me play a game with a Camo and look it up afterward it does show ALL applied modifiers in the screen at the end.

Please refrain calling from calling people uneducated, thats just not nice.

 

4 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

OK here you go. 

Equal speed charly London gives 50% exp, not specified as Comm. Exp, still increases it as it does for fxp. 

If exp is not specified it increases ALL 3. 

Now stop spreading your misinformation you are hurting yourself. 

Prems are used as trainers for a reason damnit

 

I am Sorry.

But I have Honestly not the Slightest Idea what either of these Sources even Says.

Its 8 in the Morning Guys. Pls dont make my Head Explode with Math....

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Gerade eben, Sunleader sagte:

 

 

I am Sorry.

But I have Honestly not the Slightest Idea what either of these Sources even Says.

Its 8 in the Morning Guys. Pls dont make my Head Explode with Math....

Sunleader... If you believe what he is saying I will seriously start doubting you. If exp earning is not specified it applies to ALL 3 Is why MOSAIK CAMMO GIVES HUGE BONUS TO ALL (400%) WITHOUT STATING IT 

[DasTongle]

15 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Now stop spreading your misinformation you are hurting yourself. 

Prems are used as trainers for a reason damnit

I am not hurting myself... i ma just thick headed and still insist i am right even if proven wrong.

PS.: Thanks i did have a misconception here myself :P

[Sunleader]

21 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Sunleader... If you believe what he is saying I will seriously start doubting you. If exp earning is not specified it applies to ALL 3 Is why MOSAIK CAMMO GIVES HUGE BONUS TO ALL (400%) WITHOUT STATING IT 

 

I am not Religious. So I do not Believe.

If things like this Come up. I go ahead and Simply Test it.

 

And Yes you are Right. The Exp Bonus Counts towards Captain Exp as well.

 

 

 

The Calculation is rather Strange.

 

The Game Calculates Ship Exp and Commander Exp Seperately.

Both with ONLY their own Booster Signals/Camouflages etc.

 

But then the Game Slabs the Bonus Exp from the Ship Exp onto the Commander Exp as a Flat Bonus Value.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 14 Minuten, The_Reichtangle sagte:

I am not hurting myself... i ma just thick headed and still insist i am right even if proven wrong.

PS.: Thanks i did have a misconception here myself :P

Well now u know

Vor 7 Minuten, Sunleader sagte:

 

I am not Religious. So I do not Believe.

If things like this Come up. I go ahead and Simply Test it.

 

And Yes you are Right. The Exp Bonus Counts towards Captain Exp as well.

 

 

 

The Calculation is rather Strange.

 

The Game Calculates Ship Exp and Commander Exp Seperately.

Both with ONLY their own Booster Signals/Camouflages etc.

 

But then the Game Slabs the Bonus Exp from the Ship Exp onto the Commander Exp as a Flat Bonus Value.

And that is why the price is so high. You get to seal club while earning not only more credits but also 50% exp/cmd exp AND fxp compared to same tier Prem ships. 

[CptBarney]

33 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Well now u know

And that is why the price is so high. You get to seal club while earning not only more credits but also 50% exp/cmd exp AND fxp compared to same tier Prem ships. 

Just gib me marathon fam, without a shite time period (so 4 weeks and the tasks aren't absoloute shite either).

 

Either way 50% commander exp doesn't sound that great, stuff like that has been in world of tanks for years now (churchill 3).

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 7 Minuten, CptBarney sagte:

Just gib me marathon fam, without a shite time period (so 4 weeks and the tasks aren't absoloute shite either).

 

Either way 50% commander exp doesn't sound that great, stuff like that has been in world of tanks for years now (churchill 3).

Barney its 100% commander, free and regular exp. 

It's crazy good for a perma cammo in such low tiers

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Barney its 100% commander, free and regular exp. 

It's crazy good for a perma cammo in such low tiers

rather have a prem version of the izmail with slightly lower citadel, better turret angles and better heal, plus dispersion

 

is balans yes?

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 8 Minuten, CptBarney sagte:

rather have a prem version of the izmail with slightly lower citadel, better turret angles and better heal, plus dispersion

 

is balans yes?

??? 

It's a cammo not a whole ship

[CptBarney]

2 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

??? 

It's a cammo not a whole ship

dont care just gib.

 

 

graf spee and the other ship dont seem that good whenever i face them.

[Starchy_Tuber]

4 hours ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

OK here you go. 

Equal speed charly London gives 50% exp, not specified as Comm. Exp, still increases it as it does for fxp. 

If exp is not specified it increases ALL 3. 

Now stop spreading your misinformation you are hurting yourself. 

Prems are used as trainers for a reason damnit

I don't know a single person in the game who knows that.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 2 Minuten, Starchy_Tuber sagte:

I don't know a single person in the game who knows that.

Now you know

[ZeMalm]

Whatever the bonus this is still a ridiculous price to pay for camo for ships that already have a free perma camo. 

[Uglesett]

14 hours ago, Starchy_Tuber said:

Warspite Ship £19, Warspite Camo £14...

Not going to argue that it's not on the expensive side, but I can sort of see where they're coming from as well.

 

A T6 premium with this camo is going to be in the same ballpark as a T8 premium both when it comes to cost and when it comes to credit and experience income. So there's a certain logic to it.

[Verblonde]

7 minutes ago, Uglesett said:

Not going to argue that it's not on the expensive side, but I can sort of see where they're coming from as well.

 

A T6 premium with this camo is going to be in the same ballpark as a T8 premium both when it comes to cost and when it comes to credit and experience income. So there's a certain logic to it.

This.

 

I've picked up two of them (Graf and Shinonome): the bonuses are significantly better than the standard cammo, so making grinding resources a *lot* more efficient in Ops (Graf) and Sprint (Shinonome), especially with a 19 point captain.

[Uglesett]

3 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

This.

 

I've picked up two of them (Graf and Shinonome): the bonuses are significantly better than the standard cammo, so making grinding resources a *lot* more efficient in Ops (Graf) and Sprint (Shinonome), especially with a 19 point captain.

I am considering picking up the Graf Spee one, simply because she's a ship I really enjoy playing (she's one of those oddball premiums that's just pleasantly different). She just doesn't get that much play time because if I'm farming credits in premium ships, the Musashi and Kobayashi Kii are better options.

[Verblonde]

4 minutes ago, Uglesett said:

if I'm farming credits in premium ships

The problem I have is that most of my (notional) best earners are BBs (various Kobayashi, MO etc.) which I pretty much universally suck in; in that context, boosting earnings with ships I do more usefully in, and enjoy playing, becomes attractive.

[Uglesett]

8 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

The problem I have is that most of my (notional) best earners are BBs (various Kobayashi, MO etc.) which I pretty much universally suck in

Just camp the map border and farm damage with HE