Clear sky return?

[CrniVrag]

Hi forumites!

So I know this might be a trivial issue and all, but after a battle where I downed 67 planes with my Hindi I was wondering, is WG still working on brining back the Clear Sky achievement or any replacement for it? There was talk after the rework that they are "gathering information" about plane kills to set a new parameter, but since then no news about it has emerged. 

[DFens_666]

Does it bring income to WG? No

So probably 2022 ™ when someone accidently activates it, but then they will remove it after 4-5 patches because it was a "bug"

 

Throwing more and more other stuff at us is more important than achievements, requests from the playerbase about game mechanic changes or Operations....

[The_Shungite_Wizard]

I think the number is 75 planes, seen it somewhere can't remember where 

[CrniVrag]

2 minutes ago, Armoured_Sausage said:

I think the number is 75 planes, seen it somewhere can't remember where 

I don't think so. This is still the valid requirement, but the achievement is just turned off...

"Destroy more than 50% of enemy aircraft (at least 30 including floatplanes launched from battleships and cruisers) in a single battle using fighters, or by setting enemy aircraft as priority targets for AA armaments."

 

[CrniVrag]

14 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Does it bring income to WG? No

So probably 2022 ™ when someone accidently activates it, but then they will remove it after 4-5 patches because it was a "bug"

 

Throwing more and more other stuff at us is more important than achievements, requests from the playerbase about game mechanic changes or Operations....

Well it is the only way to earn the flags through an achievement, so it would be nice if they change the parameters or replace the achievement with something else for the AA flags...

[Sir_Grzegorz]

7 hours ago, CrniVrag said:

Destroy more than 50% of enemy aircraft

so if there is a CV in game you have to destroy 50% of infinite number of planes.

It is clear you have not killed enough :)

[Profilus]

7 hours ago, CrniVrag said:

Well it is the only way to earn the flags through an achievement, so it would be nice if they change the parameters or replace the achievement with something else for the AA flags...

Subs dont make themselves, so WG would change clear sky, but no time for that.

[lovelacebeer]

On the latest PTS I noticed a new achievement (well new to me anyway) "AA defence expert" which we got for shooting down roughly 40 planes. 

 

My guess is they are just just going to rename the AA achievements and give them new thresholds.

[DasTongle]

7 hours ago, CrniVrag said:

I don't think so. This is still the valid requirement, but the achievement is just turned off...

"Destroy more than 50% of enemy aircraft (at least 30 including floatplanes launched from battleships and cruisers) in a single battle using fighters, or by setting enemy aircraft as priority targets for AA armaments."

 

The Current number of Airplanes is unlimited due to Auto Replenishment of the CV's therefore you can't trigger it no matter how hard you try *shrugs* If it is just Shipplanes even they now launch squadrons.

[WashedandDeceased]

With plane regeneration there is no clear sky Comrade 

[CrniVrag]

2 hours ago, Freyr_90 said:

With plane regeneration there is no clear sky Comrade 

I am well aware of that, I was just curious if anyone knows what they are planning on doing about that, since they are gathering numbers since january this year and still no news... 

[Bellegar]

7 hours ago, lovelacebeer said:

On the latest PTS I noticed a new achievement (well new to me anyway) "AA defence expert" which we got for shooting down roughly 40 planes. 

 

My guess is they are just just going to rename the AA achievements and give them new thresholds.

Isn't that the old one from when they split the old Clear Sky?

There was one for CVs and I believe the one for other ships was called AA defence expert.

 

4 hours ago, CrniVrag said:

I am well aware of that, I was just curious if anyone knows what they are planning on doing about that, since they are gathering numbers since january this year and still no news... 

As for OP, well I'm afraid WG doesn't care anymore. All they care about is p00ping out T9 and T10 ships and more and more lootbox events.

They don't care for the longevity of the game anymore, so don't expect anything in regards to Operations, Achievements, core mechanics and so on and so forth

[mtm78]

16 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

Isn't that the old one from when they split the old Clear Sky?

There was one for CVs and I believe the one for other ships was called AA defence expert.

 

Nah I am pretty sure I got some Clear Skye achievements and I don't play CV ( except that one time I needed it for my ARP sheeps ). 

[Bellegar]

3 hours ago, mtm78 said:

 

Nah I am pretty sure I got some Clear Skye achievements and I don't play CV ( except that one time I needed it for my ARP sheeps ). 

And I'm pretty sure you got those in times long past, from before the single Clear Sky achievement was split into the two others I spoke of ;)

 

From the 0.7.4 patch notes:

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In Update 0.7.4, the "Clear Sky" achievement will be removed from the game. With the introduction of the "Direction Center for Catapult Aircraft" Commander skill and increase in the number of aircraft in the hangars of some battleships and cruisers, it became nearly impossible to earn this achievement. So, we replaced it with two new honorary achievements:

 

 

"King of the Air" (made specifically for aircraft carriers).
"AA Defense Expert" earned by playing only a battleship, cruiser, or destroyer.

 

Both achievements are issued for knocking down a fixed number of aircraft in a single battle: 55 enemy aircraft for "King of the Air" and 50 for "AA Defense Expert". The reward for earning each of these two achievements will be 10 "November Echo Settesvent" flags that will be issued no more than once a day. The new achievements will replace "Clear Sky" in Campaigns tasks. You'll need to earn any of these two new achievements to complete a respective task. If a player has already made some progress on these tasks, it will be kept. If the tasks were completed earlier, they will remain completed.

The "Detailed Ribbons" checkbox will be removed from the Settings menu. Now, the battle performance ribbons will always be displayed in the detailed view.

@lovelacebeer turns out it was indeed the 'surface ship's' replacement of the Clear Sky achievement. I promise I won't go into details about what it means that you've noticed its existence just now

[22cm]

4 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

55 enemy aircraft for "King of the Air" and 50 for "AA Defense Expert" 

Well he downed 67 planes, no achievement, so is not working, or working as intended.

[22cm]

3 hours ago, Bellegar said:

As for OP, well I'm afraid WG doesn't care anymore. All they care about is p00ping out T9 and T10 ships and more and more lootbox events.

They don't care for the longevity of the game anymore, so don't expect anything in regards to Operations, Achievements, core mechanics and so on and so forth

[lovelacebeer]

1 hour ago, Bellegar said:

 

 

From the 0.7.4 patch notes:

@lovelacebeer turns out it was indeed the 'surface ship's' replacement of the Clear Sky achievement. I promise I won't go into details about what it means that you've noticed its existence just now

 

Don't worry I know I'm far from observant, and means CV players dont like me, so if they want to ignore me I won't complain 

[mtm78]

1 hour ago, Bellegar said:

And I'm pretty sure you got those in times long past, from before the single Clear Sky achievement was split into the two others I spoke of ;)

That's actually quite..

 

 

edit: I was thinking it might be my AS Bogue I had to use for grinding my ARP ships, but I sucked so hard playing CV's I can't imagine ever getting a real award in one... 

 

[Bellegar]

2 hours ago, 22cm said:

Well he downed 67 planes, no achievement, so is not working, or working as intended.

I know, those two achievements were disabled when the CV rework hit live server beta testing. That's the whole point of this thread... OP's asking for the status of their return.

[lovelacebeer]

2 hours ago, 22cm said:

Well he downed 67 planes, no achievement, so is not working, or working as intended.

 

Currently disabled but they have reappeared in the latest PTS so my guess is they are coming back at long last

[CrniVrag]

6 hours ago, Bellegar said:

Isn't that the old one from when they split the old Clear Sky?

There was one for CVs and I believe the one for other ships was called AA defence expert.

 

As for OP, well I'm afraid WG doesn't care anymore. All they care about is p00ping out T9 and T10 ships and more and more lootbox events.

They don't care for the longevity of the game anymore, so don't expect anything in regards to Operations, Achievements, core mechanics and so on and so forth

The matter of WG blasting out new T9 and T10 ships is a problem of the WoWS economy. The grind for exp and silver is faaaar to easy and they are just trying to compensate that with things players can spend it on. The most popular thing being ships. Sadly this is not really solving the problem since it might be too late to crawl out of that hole they dug themselves in an atempt to pull in more players. 

Sadly new ships draw a lot of resources from other things, one of them being this one. Even though it's a small matter, a bunch of small matters tend to add up pretty quickly.

[KillStealBoss]

21 hours ago, Armoured_Sausage said:

I think the number is 75 planes, seen it somewhere can't remember where 

Some guy had 89 planes down and still didn't have it. WG didn't fix this, maybe it'll be fixed as @lovelacebeer said.

[Bellegar]

13 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

Some guy had 89 planes down and still didn't have it. WG didn't fix this, maybe it'll be fixed as @lovelacebeer said.

There's nothing to fix, the 2 AA achievements have been disabled since January. That guy not getting any achievement for killing 89 planes is working as intended.

 

13 hours ago, CrniVrag said:

The matter of WG blasting out new T9 and T10 ships is a problem of the WoWS economy. The grind for exp and silver is faaaar to easy and they are just trying to compensate that with things players can spend it on. The most popular thing being ships.

Yes, but what doesn't help is that they give away T8 ships whenever a new line is introduced. That only makes the grind even shorter.

 

13 hours ago, CrniVrag said:

Sadly new ships draw a lot of resources from other things, one of them being this one. Even though it's a small matter, a bunch of small matters tend to add up pretty quickly.

True, the campaigns and operations are also victims of this policy.

[Cambera_1]

Both 'King of the Air' and 'Air Defence Expert' were disabled in update 0.8.0

and have been removed from the achievements of every player who has not received these awards. 

As @Bellegar quoted these were the replacement for 'Clear Skies'.

 

I believe 'Clear Skies' isn't coming back while the 'spreadsheet' does not have sufficient premium t10's to have sufficient data for 'King of the Air' and 'Air Defence Expert'. 

 

Joking apart, there has been no stability in the AA since the CV Rework so the data is lacking as to what the new thresholds needs to be with the rework.

 

Personally I am looking forward to these returning as this will mean that Stability will have returned.

 

[Estaca_de_Bares]

On 9/9/2019 at 12:51 AM, CrniVrag said:

I don't think so. This is still the valid requirement, but the achievement is just turned off...

"Destroy more than 50% of enemy aircraft (at least 30 including floatplanes launched from battleships and cruisers) in a single battle using fighters, or by setting enemy aircraft as priority targets for AA armaments."

22 hours ago, Bellegar said:

Isn't that the old one from when they split the old Clear Sky?

There was one for CVs and I believe the one for other ships was called AA defence expert.

Yes, that was the old requirement in RTS before splitting it in AA Defense Expert for ships and King of the Air for CVs as you mentioned in an ulterior post, although AA Expert was 40 planes IIRC.

 

I'm quite sure WG is still collecting data regarding this matter and fine-tuning the requisites so they're fair and reasonable. No doubt about it. No need to add certain tag.

 

Salute.