Another OP Russian Paper Ship

[MadBadDave]

I see yet another Premium Ship in development, The Poltava, a T8 Russian BB, hands up who expects this paper ship from a non existent naval present nation, in the second world war, which I believe is the "primary" period the game is supposed to cover to be OP, no doubt it'll have radar, smoke, concrete armour, and be pin point accurate.

 

Instead why not have the Royal Sovereign, with the ability of using it with an RN or Russian Commander, or any of the "REAL" non Russian ships,  that actually contributed to the war effort, WG harp on about Historical accuracy, when are we going to see any ?,  us brits only fired He in BB's and Ap in cruisers, the japs had slow ships, and relied on Torps, the German's couldn't shoot straight and had inferior dispersion, and the yanks sat behind islands lobbing HE.

 

Come on WG "PLAY THE GAME". do you want historical accuracy or not, YOU COULD give us any number of REAL premiums, that can't fire straight, dakka, spam He, and fire 50 torps every 10 seconds instead !.

[invicta2012]

It's a Black Sea fleet ship, which should mean compromises to the design (size, displacement). 

[ColonelPete]

Yeah, having the smallest main guns on Tier VIII will be completly "OP"...

[Cambera_1]

2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Yeah, having the smallest main guns on Tier VIII will be completly "OP"...

Look out for the boosted penetration then - special balancing feature

I'm guessing it won't be this ship that "served" in WW2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Poltava_(1911)

[iFax]

50 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

I see yet another Premium Ship in development, The Poltava, a T8 Russian BB, hands up who expects this paper ship from a non existent naval present nation, in the second world war, which I believe is the "primary" period the game is supposed to cover to be OP, no doubt it'll have radar, smoke, concrete armour, and be pin point accurate.

 

Instead why not have the Royal Sovereign, with the ability of using it with an RN or Russian Commander, or any of the "REAL" non Russian ships,  that actually contributed to the war effort, WG harp on about Historical accuracy, when are we going to see any ?,  us brits only fired He in BB's and Ap in cruisers, the japs had slow ships, and relied on Torps, the German's couldn't shoot straight and had inferior dispersion, and the yanks sat behind islands lobbing HE.

 

Come on WG "PLAY THE GAME". do you want historical accuracy or not, YOU COULD give us any number of REAL premiums, that can't fire straight, dakka, spam He, and fire 50 torps every 10 seconds instead !.

Did you know that Russian steel works couldn't produce cemented armour of thicknesses greater than 230mm, in the case of the Sovetsky Soyuz they went with 400mm of face hardened steel which was very poor quality. Infact her weight of armour was greater than Yamato's with only half the effectiveness against 16" shells...

 

But this is an arcade game and this point is mute as armour quality doesn't exist... A simple code would easily fix it...

 

Or does WG choose to ignore this fact so they can produce OP comrade ships?

 

As a side note, Yammy's armour could easily be penetrated even by US 16" 45cal let alone 16" 50cal...

 

(several sources but mostly Bernard Ireland)

[kapnobathrac]

Cause they would go bankrupt without paper ships.

[VeryHonarbrah]

Surprisingly it seems rather eh / weak stat wise

[RigorMortis76]

1 hour ago, MadBadDave said:

I see yet another Premium Ship in development, The Poltava, a T8 Russian BB, hands up who expects this paper ship from a non existent naval present nation, in the second world war, which I believe is the "primary" period the game is supposed to cover to be OP, no doubt it'll have radar, smoke, concrete armour, and be pin point accurate.

 

Instead why not have the Royal Sovereign, with the ability of using it with an RN or Russian Commander, or any of the "REAL" non Russian ships,  that actually contributed to the war effort, WG harp on about Historical accuracy, when are we going to see any ?,  us brits only fired He in BB's and Ap in cruisers, the japs had slow ships, and relied on Torps, the German's couldn't shoot straight and had inferior dispersion, and the yanks sat behind islands lobbing HE.

 

Come on WG "PLAY THE GAME". do you want historical accuracy or not, YOU COULD give us any number of REAL premiums, that can't fire straight, dakka, spam He, and fire 50 torps every 10 seconds instead !.

I dont share peoples obsession in an arcade game with perceived historical accuracy.

Nothing about this game is realistic anyway. I do not care.

[Lebedjev]

1 hour ago, MadBadDave said:

Come on WG "PLAY THE GAME". do you want historical accuracy or not

Just that because the rest is "Oh my god, i want all russian ship dissapear, because WW2 reaason and my waifu is not in the game yet"

 

Do you really want historical accuracy ?

Because it look like you don't know what historical mean after all. :/

[principat121]

31 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Yeah, having the smallest main guns on Tier VIII will be completly "OP"...

Odin

[WeGreedy]

20 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Yeah, having the smallest main guns on Tier VIII will be completly "OP"...

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, B0Tato said:

They are smaller....

[Karasu_Browarszky]

IMO WG is good at balancing the various BB's. If this Poltava is an OP fantasy a.k.a paper ship, then it's perfectly balanced by having something like the Vanguard in the game, a real existing ship that AFAIK can be considered a paper ship albeit of a different definition...

[Panocek]

11 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

IMO WG is good at balancing the various BB's. If this Poltava is an OP fantasy a.k.a paper ship, then it's perfectly balanced by having something like the Vanguard in the game, a real existing ship that AFAIK can be considered a paper ship albeit of a different definition...

Just because one ship is broken the OP way and other is broken the UP way doesn't mean they average out in spreadshiet

[MadBadDave]

4 hours ago, RigorMortis76 said:

I dont share peoples obsession in an arcade game with perceived historical accuracy.

Nothing about this game is realistic anyway. I do not care.

If you don't care why respond 

[MacFergus]

WoWs is declining and on its gravestone will be a laughing victor and the words "Death by Gimmick".

 

You don't think WG make op ships on purpose?. You don't think they have Testers?. When a CC like Flamu tells you a ship is Op but WG ignore him and release it anyway.

 

Bottom line is its about money WG don't care about balance if a premium ship is op they will sell it anyway all part of the business plan and a year later they will remove the ship and stick it in a loot-box so you can spend your Christmas money on trying to acquire it only your pay 20 times more money.

 

WG are hoping that an average scrub like myself will buy their op premium tier IX ship because I have a chance of turning my stats around and make some good cash but as we know a scrub is a scrub so no matter how op a ship will be it wont change the fact a bad player will still be bad player.

 

But in divisions this is where op ships shine and where the stats go through the roof.

 

Just my opinion. 

[MadBadDave]

Regarding Historical Accuracy, it's a thing that's mentioned a few times in WG's own dev blog video.

 

Yes it's a game, an unbalanced biased one, especially anti German IMHO, and overtly biased toward Russia, who yes suffered HUGE losses, but their NAVY did sweet FA in WWII.

 

Hood and others had Torps, Did Tirp and Scharnhorst ?, and then there's WG's obsession for yet another high cost paper premium, that will fall to the wayside (in favour of HISTORIC ships), within due course.

 

Now the good; WG's little game  is flawed, as above but it has got me really interested in  warships of THE most important period in History, when we see the team line up we know all the "historic" ships and what they did, and how good they were etc, its also revealed a few big hollywood/film mistakes; e.g yesterday Battle of the River Plate was on, an old favourite, as soon as I saw their Graf Spee I started laughing, I know CGI wasn't invented in 1956 but as with the Panzers in Battle of  the Bulge, games like WOWS and WOT have helped promote better awareness, for example looking at the film Graf (actually the U.S.S Salem), you cannot be anything other than impressed, wow 3 small cruisers beat it, in reality the Graf had far less guns and had it met Salem, probably wouldn't have lasted long,which does demonstrate the skill and bravery of the Spee crew to hold off 3 Brit cruisers.     Had it not been scuttled who would've won ?.   And that awareness was brought about from playing a simple Warship game, hence my loathing of anything paper and Russian, because as stated they did SWEET FA naval wise.

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Yes it's a game, an unbalanced biased one, especially anti German IMHO, and...

In what regard?

[Panocek]

34 minutes ago, MacFergus said:

Bottom line is its about money WG don't care about balance if a premium ship is op they will sell it anyway all part of the business plan and a year later they will remove the ship and stick it in a loot-box so you can spend your Christmas money on trying to acquire it only your pay 20 times more money.

Would be true... but Belfast, Kutuzov and now Enterprise disappearing shove kinda wedge into that statement.

 

Or it could be Russian grade marketing "release OP ship and remove it later, so plebs learn when we release OP stuff, they will want it now"

[hellhound666]

46 minutes ago, MacFergus said:

WoWs is declining and on its gravestone will be a laughing victor and the words "Death by Gimmick".

 

You don't think WG make op ships on purpose?. You don't think they have Testers?. When a CC like Flamu tells you a ship is Op but WG ignore him and release it anyway.

 

Bottom line is its about money WG don't care about balance if a premium ship is op they will sell it anyway all part of the business plan and a year later they will remove the ship and stick it in a loot-box so you can spend your Christmas money on trying to acquire it only your pay 20 times more money.

 

WG are hoping that an average scrub like myself will buy their op premium tier IX ship because I have a chance of turning my stats around and make some good cash but as we know a scrub is a scrub so no matter how op a ship will be it wont change the fact a bad player will still be bad player.

 

But in divisions this is where op ships shine and where the stats go through the roof.

 

Just my opinion. 

flamu's or any others cc's opinion should have very little meaning - they are nobody in big part.

same with supertesters.

main work should be done by internal testers and spreadsheet guys.

seeing how it has been lately i dont think the spreadsheet guys are able to open their spreadsheets ...

[MacFergus]

7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Would be true... but Belfast, Kutuzov and now Enterprise disappearing shove kinda wedge into that statement.

 

Or it could be Russian grade marketing "release OP ship and remove it later, so plebs learn when we release OP stuff, they will want it now"

To be fair do you actually think people refunded Belfast and MK ?.

 

"Hi were removing Belfast from the game because she's unfair were giving you 3 weeks if you want gold instead of real money you paid oh and btw you can keep her if you want....LOL".

 

And you second statement is spot on WG know what their doing you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand they release op ships in order to tease unskilled players to buy them if you were around when the Tirpitz was released you will understand what I'm saying.  

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, MacFergus said:

To be fair do you actually think people refunded Belfast and MK ?.

 

"Hi were removing Belfast from the game because she's unfair were giving you 3 weeks if you want gold instead of real money you paid oh and btw you can keep her if you want....LOL".

 

And you second statement is spot on WG know what their doing you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand they release op ships in order to tease unskilled players to buy them if you were around when the Tirpitz was released you will understand what I'm saying.  

While Tirpitz indeed made "World of Tirpitz" for some time, it wasn't really overpowered. She had new at the time, idiotproof armor and torps for memes. Everyone buying her was rather case of stronk German (over)engineering as well overall overhype around Bismarck class

[Lebedjev]

Creating a topic about Poltava, call it OP, never tell us why and prefer to talk about something else ?  

yeah...

[MacFergus]

11 minutes ago, Lebedjev said:

Creating a topic about Poltava, call it OP, never tell us why and prefer to talk about something else ?  

yeah...

Does it matter if its op or not is will still end up in the game regardless , However its harder to sell poor preforming ships as WG have learned , I don't know anything about the ship to be fair but its wouldn't surprise me if its indeed very strong bit pointless bringing out a ship that wont sell.

 

Not like WG give a monkeys about Balance.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 hours ago, Panocek said:

Just because one ship is broken the OP way and other is broken the UP way doesn't mean they average out in spreadshiet

 

Just wait for the quarterly report.