Double CV games

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

Can you please remove double CV games? What is the mindset behind double CV games I really want to know! I'm not having fun playing this game anymore. If you think double CV games are okay then give every ship a proper AA. 

[BanzaiPiluso]

I am seeing this in every 4 CV battle. Players complaining in chat then if you are on a DD say goodbye to a 30% of your HPs in the first couple of minutes.

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Actually, it's by design. The research buro leads to an influx of high skill players at low tiers, and since CV tiers are only at even tiers, someone like me who does not FXP through it actually has to play a significant amount of battles per tier. I do however completely agree with your main point: double CV matches are pretty bad, and counter productive at tiers 3 and 4.

[El2aZeR]

Spreadsheet says is fun camrade.

[Pikkozoikum]

11 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

Can you please remove double CV games? What is the mindset behind double CV games I really want to know! I'm not having fun playing this game anymore. If you think double CV games are okay then give every ship a proper AA. 

I had early in the morning a 3 CV, 1 BB and 1 DD match. That was actually funny xD

 

 

[Bear__Necessities]

20 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

Can you please remove double CV games? What is the mindset behind double CV games I really want to know! I'm not having fun playing this game anymore. If you think double CV games are okay then give every ship a proper AA. 

Ohhh some of us can CV at all tiers, sorry to disappoint you. Does not get any better... and why are you so worried about CV's at T4.... unless you play ships that you club in and are now getting clubbed back and don't like it....

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

all I play is Dreadnought, and it has no AA at all. How is this fair? Being harassed all game with no counter play.

 

and Dreadnought is nowhere near OP, it has wonky dispersion.

[Bear__Necessities]

5 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

all I play is Dreadnought, and it has no AA at all. How is this fair? Being harassed all game with no counter play

so you ONLY play dreadnought in the low tiers. Sure you wanna stick with that answer??

[Sargento_YO]

Damn, I want to see the promised 3 cvs per side devs mentioned at the beginning of the nerf!!

[Kryostorm]

9 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

all I play is Dreadnought, and it has no AA at all. How is this fair? Being harassed all game with no counter play.

 

and Dreadnought is nowhere near OP, it has wonky dispersion.

I only have Arkansas B to play in low tier which I still enjoy playing and TBH most ships T3-4 have such weak AA all they do is put up a firework display but for peace of mind if there are CV's always try and stick close to a friendly ship with AA especially a US BB just not an Arkansas B :)

 

[Asakka]

[Sigimundus]

44 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

Can you please remove double CV games? What is the mindset behind double CV games I really want to know! I'm not having fun playing this game anymore. If you think double CV games are okay then give every ship a proper AA. 

So normal sealclubber is complaining that CV seaclubbers ruining his sealclubbing?

[mtm78]

13 minutes ago, Bear_Necessities said:

so you ONLY play dreadnought in the low tiers. Sure you wanna stick with that answer??

 

Some people play this game not to reach tier 10's but because they have ( emotional ) ties to certain ships / battles / navies and so on. Low tier is much more populated with true existing ships with existing combat history, wether the higher you go in tiers, the more either 1950+ ships or paper ships you get. 

 

edit: dual CV games are painful mostly for destroyers. If they fix it so CV's make BB's obsolete again if they are played by Kevin's, double CV games wouldn't be such an issue. As it is now, I rather not have them at all. 

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

He still thinks Dreadnought is sealclub capable lol. I really want to see his face when his shells go over the place while planes flying above him.

[Bear__Necessities]

13 minutes ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

He still thinks Dreadnought is sealclub capable lol. I really want to see his face when his shells go over the place while planes flying above him.

you do know we can see all the ships you've played.... I see you even dabbled in a T4 CV yourself (badly) but you know....

[asalonen]

1 hour ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

Can you please remove double CV games?

You can't, end of story. If more than 1/12 of the players in the queue are playing a CV, then double CV games must happen. They're paying customers like everybody else.

 

In high tiers there are less CV's in queue so there's a "soft cap" of one CV per side. This means that the CV might have wait a few minutes, and only then a double CV game can start. There's no guarantee that the soft cap will stay, but it works now.

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

Spreadsheet says is fun camrade.

This 

[invicta2012]

1 hour ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

Can you please remove double CV games? What is the mindset behind double CV games I really want to know! I'm not having fun playing this game anymore. I

They are rubbish, and a terrible advert for the game at low Tiers.

 

I was playing the new French destroyers at the weekend and found so many Tier IV games ending in CV versus CV... It was tragi comic. In one game I got into an argument with one of the CV players about how the gameplay was stale. Got sunk, went off to play two quick coop games and came back ten minutes later to see the result of that CV game pop up... We'd won on points as the CVs could not kill each other in ten minutes of trying. Hopeless. 

[Bear__Necessities]

48 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

as the CVs could not kill each other in ten minutes of trying. Hopeless. 

They are crap CV players then. Only take 4/5 strikes to kill another off. Somtimes 3/4 in Hosho. 

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Spreadsheet says is fun camrade.

 You mean, as in the Italian.

 

Spoiler

spreading shiiiiittt.

 

 

[invicta2012]

1 hour ago, Bear_Necessities said:

They are crap CV players then. Only take 4/5 strikes to kill another off. Somtimes 3/4 in Hosho. 

It happens, it keeps on happening. Low Tier CVs aren't really predators, they're more like Cows.... they're big and you don't want to stand in their way, but a Cow v Cow deathmatch can go on for a while (moo).

[lovelacebeer]

I had a couple of 3 CV per side matches this morning, rather takes the fun out of the match but hey that's the NTC grind for you especially given the power of low tier CVs in the current update. 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

6 hours ago, asalonen said:

They're paying customers like everybody else

I don't pay nuttin... and I bet most players don't pay...

 

15 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

I had a couple of 3 CV per side matches this morning, rather takes the fun out of the match but hey that's the NTC grind for you especially given the power of low tier CVs in the current update. 

Easy solution: when you end up in a no-AA ship in a 2+ CV battle just park Your ship near an allied CV and watch the feces hit the fan... ^^

[Seraduxos]

T4 double CV´s is not a real issue, the damage output of them are so tiny that even a destroyer can survive lots of hits.

at T6 it is starting to trail of thou, especially DD´s vs double Ark Royal, Arks are most likely Sealclubb setup as they use there 19 pointer T10 cap, so even BB´s and CA´s will fall short here (same issue that is with Kaga/Enterprice at T8)

Adding the soft cap on T6 and T8 CV games is a good thing, so what if i have to w8 a min or 2 to get in, (i play loads of CV myself and i rather w8 then be in a 2CV game).

 

IF you add a soft cap on 6 and 8 CV games sure it will up the que abit, still will be a few double CV games but not as often, and most important, there will be more games with CV´s in, making for an AA build to be more valuable on all ships. 
The que isn´t a big issue, and i don´t know why Wargaming fears it so much, i used to play War Thunder before and we almost always had ques of 1-2 min but with the reward that the games had a better MM. I belive most players would be ok with a tad bit longer w8 with a result of a more fun and fluid game experience.

[Rhineheart_Thor]

30 minutes ago, Seraduxos said:

T4 double CV´s is not a real issue, the damage output of them are so tiny that even a destroyer can survive lots of hits.

 

With all due respect I disagree with your statement.

 

T4 CV,s control T4 games, because the T4 AA is inadequate, to the point there is no point playing T4 Random what so ever, if you use camouflage, modules and signals you are wasting your money.

 

Although I hate to say it, to train your captain skills you are better off in T4 Co-op with no camo, mods, signals, and grind out the XP or play a CV

 

ça ne fait rien,

 

T4 Random is dead at the moment IMHO.