stats Stats - a journey to the past

[Jethro_Grey]

I don't how many times i said on these very Forums, that i don't give a rats a$$ about stats.

It's way too easy to pad stats in lower tiers and by farming damage in higher tiers.

Despite that, i put a stats banner in my sig, cause knowing the internet, there's always someone dragging stats into a discussion, and having mine handy in my sig, saves them time looking them up.

 

And since i haven't played in almost a year, i was expecting my stats to be horrible for quite some time.

When i accidently looked at my own sig while replying in another thread i was somewhat surprised and it made me think about the olden times when i started playing this game. Ohhh, the olden days of glory...

 

Iirc, i had around 24% WR and 17k average damage after 1k - 1.5k (maybe even 2.5k) games, and i dare say that i improved quite a bit, which makes me kinda proud.

It was a long journey with lots of ups and downs, but i'm still improving, and that is all that matters to me.

 

That being said, while i do remember quite a lot about the past 4 years of WoWS, certain games, certain forumites (who vanished), certain lines i rushed up like an idiot just to get to TX (ignoring upgrades and modules just to save money), certain WG frak-ups (and WG keeps on delivering...), certain $hitstorms and certain random players who left a lasting impression by either being stupid or just toxic AF.

 

One thing i can't remember to save my life are my stats of the past, mostly because i diodn't give a flying frak, but also because i was too lazy to look them up.

 

And now that i bored you to death with the story of my WoWS life, i'd like to know whether there is a stat tracking site that kept track of my stats over the past 4+years?

I know that there are stats tracking sites, but i can't seem to go all the way back...

 

I'd like to see how much i really improved and take it as motivation ( not that i need anymore of it) to improve even further.

 

Pls Halp!

 

[ColonelPete]

Wows numbers gives you graphs about your important stats from the day your were first looked up there.

 

I know of no other site that can do that or more. Apart from the fact that they all work in the same way and gather data from the time they first look up your profile.

 

 

[Ronchabale]

Sounds a bit like my journey, for sure more than 4k games before I got over 50% winrate

Total stats from the first 6 months will haunt me forever 

 

[Jethro_Grey]

27 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Wows numbers gives you graphs about your important stats from the day your were first looked up there.

 

I know of no other site that can do that or more. Apart from the fact that they all work in the same way and gather data from the time they first look up your profile.

 

 

 

Damn, which means i won't be able to check how crap i was back then, since i never looked myself up until about two(??) years ago.

 

15 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

Sounds a bit like my journey, for sure more than 4k games before I got over 50% winrate

Total stats from the first 6 months will haunt me forever 

 

 

I accepted the fact that my stats are beyond saving.

With my battlecount, every victory seems to increase the number by 0.01%, which will get even worse with increasing number of battle.

And nope, not gonna reset/re-roll my account, as i value my ARP ships way higher then purple numbers.

[Ronchabale]

9 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

With my battlecount, every victory seems to increase the number by 0.01%, which will get even worse with increasing number of battle.

 

Yeah, 5k battles with my current winrate of around 60% will land me at a grand total of 56% winrate haha

Still keep track of stats to see if I improve 

[CptBarney]

Too be honest without stats i dont think i would play the game as much too be honest, same thing happened in world of tanks where i became less interested in the game and more in improvements, plus swapping out the god awful stock sounds for tanks (actually became the only reason why i would play).

 

I’ve been thinking of getting back into twitch shooters too be honest more.

 

kinda wish i played on this account more and also posted on this forum more with this account but...that was then and this is now.

 

i used to be god awful at world of tanks untill 2 certain events changed all of that.

 

still waiting for yorkie to arrive.

 

i also wished i actually got 52% overall in world of tanks before i left, but the balance decisions and dead clan meant i couldnt be arsed in the end.

[Namuras]

I guess that is one of the nice things about beeing able to view the beta stats... 

[MacFergus]

All you can do is your best I angle my ship I shoot HE at angled targets I prioritise targets I do everything I can to be a good player , And then I screw it all up because my map sense is awful.

 

Seriously I stopped giving a crap about stats along time ago when I realized I was not a good as I thought I was.

[BLUB__BLUB]

Ah well, I have weekends where I get 60%+ WR, and great damage... when I have the luck to get longer games and non-worthless teams.

I also have weekends where I gett great WR and meagre damage, because none of the games last longer than 10 minutes... you win, but ROFLSTOMPS.

...and then there's those where you seem to have ff-ed up badly with RNGesus, and you get ROFLSTOMPS in which you lose as well.

 

I'm not that good. I can't carry games, certainly not if I'm in a CV or in a cruiser. 

I know how to farm damage, I know how to aim, I know how to do something that makes sense... 

But hey I'm not Notser or Flamu or any of those, I need a bit of luck and RNGesus giveth and taketh.

SO, I'll probably end up between 45% and 55%... LOL. So be it. I'll try, but I cannot make miracles happen.

 

Well, I'll try to sacrifice some more goats....

 

Spoiler

 B U T N OPE ->   

 

 

 

[Hopeless_Guppy]

1 hour ago, MacFergus said:

All you can do is your best I angle my ship I shoot HE at angled targets I prioritise targets I do everything I can to be a good player , And then I screw it all up because my map sense is awful.

 

Seriously I stopped giving a crap about stats along time ago when I realized I was not a good as I thought I was.

But man good stats will get you free sex and beers for life, lol

 

Your a player after my own heart, lol

[El2aZeR]

2 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Pls Halp!

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/charts/529853156,Jethro_Grey/

 

1 hour ago, MacFergus said:

*snip*

 

Oh my, I feel like I haven't seen you around here in ages. Where have you been?

[Starchy_Tuber]

3 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

I don't how many times i said on these very Forums, that i don't give a rats a$$ about stats.

It's way too easy to pad stats in lower tiers and by farming damage in higher tiers.

Despite that, i put a stats banner in my sig, cause knowing the internet, there's always someone dragging stats into a discussion, and having mine handy in my sig, saves them time looking them up.

 

And since i haven't played in almost a year, i was expecting my stats to be horrible for quite some time.

When i accidently looked at my own sig while replying in another thread i was somewhat surprised and it made me think about the olden times when i started playing this game. Ohhh, the olden days of glory...

 

Iirc, i had around 24% WR and 17k average damage after 1k - 1.5k (maybe even 2.5k) games, and i dare say that i improved quite a bit, which makes me kinda proud.

It was a long journey with lots of ups and downs, but i'm still improving, and that is all that matters to me.

 

That being said, while i do remember quite a lot about the past 4 years of WoWS, certain games, certain forumites (who vanished), certain lines i rushed up like an idiot just to get to TX (ignoring upgrades and modules just to save money), certain WG frak-ups (and WG keeps on delivering...), certain $hitstorms and certain random players who left a lasting impression by either being stupid or just toxic AF.

 

One thing i can't remember to save my life are my stats of the past, mostly because i diodn't give a flying frak, but also because i was too lazy to look them up.

 

And now that i bored you to death with the story of my WoWS life, i'd like to know whether there is a stat tracking site that kept track of my stats over the past 4+years?

I know that there are stats tracking sites, but i can't seem to go all the way back...

 

I'd like to see how much i really improved and take it as motivation ( not that i need anymore of it) to improve even further.

 

Pls Halp!

 

I know I had a 42% WR after 1500 battles, at which point I thought I had better learn the basics of the game and watch soem videos on how to actually play.

By that time I was on German BBs up to tier 8, UK BBS to 7m UK cruisers to 7 and had Atlanta and Atago as my premiums "to help me learn the game" - SO SO funny in retrospect... and a tad embarassing as my atlanta and atago stats, which ive not really played since the early Potato period, are truly, deeply, horrific... that said, a nice  testament to actually laening how to play and slowly, oh so slowly, turning my overall stats around.

Like you they will never be great, but my aim is to slowly get my PR rating on wowstats up to "Great" in every class.... and at some point actually go back to thoe early lines and play them again knowing how to play the game.

I like wows Stats because you can track your individual ships and ship classes in micro - and actually see improvements on indivdiual ships. I'm currently leanring how to DD by playing the Gremy...aiming for 100 games in each DD from tier 5 upwards, so by the time i get into tier 8 and higher I wont be such a DD potato.

got to love that website.

[MacFergus]

1 hour ago, NoobySkooby said:

But man good stats will get you free sex and beers for life, lol

 

Your a player after my own heart, lol

I just try to be realistic at one stage I actually swore in-game dreadful error turned out be a very young Flamu I was swearing at no word of a lie , He did laugh it off and I did apologize great player.

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/charts/529853156,Jethro_Grey/

 

 

Oh my, I feel like I haven't seen you around here in ages. Where have you been?

Thankyou El2aZer , Its nice someone remembers you , RL issues such as a host of grandchildren ungrateful kids and a nagging wife have meant my time has been limited and that time didn't include WoWs even though I would have liked to play more , However I hope to get a few games in in the future.

 

I would ask you how the CV rework went but I don't want you breaking your wrist typing a full blow essay

[El2aZeR]

52 minutes ago, MacFergus said:

I would ask you how the CV rework went but I don't want you breaking your wrist typing a full blow essay

 

Well, lets just say it has been and will continue to be a complete and utter failure and leave it at that...

[Yosha_AtaIante]

When I started this game I played without caring until some kind soul told me in a very abusive way that my winrate is 45%~ that happend at around 700-1k games I believe. Since that moment I decided to git gud. Still working on that with BBs (don't look at my deep red yamato pls) 

 

But to say it's to late.. It's never to late. Just keep that 60% up consistently and you will eventually reach a nicer 53%-55% number. 

 

I believe stats are a good motivator because they show your progress in understanding on how to play this game. Just look at your recent games and reflect on the outcomes. Remember to not repeat mistakes and you'll be fine. 

[RAHJAILARI]

10 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Damn, which means i won't be able to check how crap i was back then, since i never looked myself up until about two(??) years ago.

Do not lose hope mate. There's always a way... Looky here:

And before anyone comments on this, yes it is indeed a horrible thing BUT to my defense I HAVE IMPROVED. perhaps not by much or not even close to how much I would have liked but anyways. I guess it's safe to say that I started out a fairly solid 40%ter....  Hehehe!

 

In any case you can do it by just individually picking out ship stats, which you know you have not played ever since the yonder good "Potato Days" of old.

 

[mtm78]

10 hours ago, Namuras said:

I guess that is one of the nice things about beeing able to view the beta stats... 

 

Back then almost everybody sucked 

 

Not to mention the people who just didn't care since they knew stats would be reset, and were just trying stupid stuff to see 'maybe it works'. 

 

@Jethro_Grey I also took a break, my two new line's I'm grinding have been terrible even while at least the RU BB's should all be 'frigging OP' according to consensus. 

 

No really, I never had ships with low 3x% wr, not since OBT started I think ( well maybe I did but it didn't last for 20+ games ). Hoping ( and counting ) will turn it around... I am even not going to sell them when unlocking the next tier just to salvage those ship stats. 

 

22 minutes ago, RAHJAILARI said:

Do not lose hope mate. There's always a way... Looky here:

And before anyone comments on this, yes it is indeed a horrible thing BUT to my defense I HAVE IMPROVED. perhaps not by much or not even close to how much I would have liked but anyways. I guess it's safe to say that I started out a fairly solid 40%ter....  Hehehe!

 

In any case you can do it by just individually picking out ship stats, which you know you have not played ever since the yonder good "Potato Days" of old.

 

 

You do realize your sample set is to low to be really that conclusive? With that few games the MM influence can be much more pronounced.

 

What I would do to compare is look at my hitratio, my dmg, my survival time ( per class ), and that coupled with my win rate. Mostly because it would more clearly show where I need to improve. 

 

I know my hitratio is crap now, I basically need to learn to aim all again it seems, or it's not longer as automated so I need to pay much more attention to how I lead targets which is taking away from my situational awareness.  

[RAHJAILARI]

7 minutes ago, mtm78 said:

 

Back then almost everybody sucked 

 

Not to mention the people who just didn't care since they knew stats would be reset, and were just trying stupid stuff to see 'maybe it works'. 

 

@Jethro_Grey I also took a break, my two new line's I'm grinding have been terrible even while at least the RU BB's should all be 'frigging OP' according to consensus. 

 

No really, I never had ships with low 3x% wr, not since OBT started I think ( well maybe I did but it didn't last for 20+ games ). Hoping ( and counting ) will turn it around... I am even not going to sell them when unlocking the next tier just to salvage those ship stats. 

 

 

You do realize your sample set is to low to be really that conclusive? With that few games the MM influence can be much more pronounced.

 

What I would do to compare is look at my hitratio, my dmg, my survival time ( per class ), and that coupled with my win rate. Mostly because it would more clearly show where I need to improve. 

 

I know my hitratio is crap now, I basically need to learn to aim all again it seems, or it's not longer as automated so I need to pay much more attention to how I lead targets which is taking away from my situational awareness.  

Of course, but the original topic of this thread was to find your own "Starting" point stats. To compare where you were at day 1 or thereabouts, as against to where you are now. One did not yet have statistically meaningful amounts of games in those days anyways and actually there's no need to be accurate either when the objective is just to get a rough glimpse at your past misery so this seems like the simplest way to do that.

[mtm78]

I get what you mean. Personally I would like to keep in mind that the numbers behind the numbers are usually way more indicative of past misery but to each their own :)

[RAHJAILARI]

On 9/3/2019 at 8:28 AM, mtm78 said:

I get what you mean. Personally I would like to keep in mind that the numbers behind the numbers are usually way more indicative of past misery but to each their own :)

I also don't even want to look at my hitratio those days... You see it took me a couple of hundred games before I actually "discovered" something called a "Binocular View" and until then I just tried to aim & shoot using the main screen view only (you can prolly imagine how well that worked). I mean yeah, I don't really wanna talk about it. But that kinda stupidity is just frightening and it ain't even the only example of sheer imbecility on my part either. They are mere painful memories now, but I don't really want to dig too deep into it for a detailed analysis either - Well, unless as a very bad joke, while heavily inebriated...

[mtm78]

But that's exactly what I meant and wanted to hear, things like wr don't tell much about past misery it's things like needing x games to find out, those things are what brings back a smile ( while shaking my head ever so slightly ).

 

PS I know for a fact you're not alone in needing some time to find out the binocular view so don't sweat it. 

 

Just saying, for a proper journey back in time, you need to dig deeper as superficial stats. The juicy memories are all hidden below, like for me first times playing DD's I didn't know there also was a narrow spread and not just wide spread...  

[RAHJAILARI]

23 hours ago, mtm78 said:

... like for me first times playing DD's I didn't know there also was a narrow spread and not just wide spread...  

Ditto, indeed I do recall finally figuring out that torps have something called "a Range"?! AND at tier 2 it isn't necessarily 25km nor do they dodge our own ships who inconveniently get in the way. 

 

And what's that annoying white triangle hanging out in front disrupting my aim every time I try to fire my torps into the green zone anyway? (that one took quite long, must have been somewhereabouts 500 battles in by that time - Yeah, I'm not very smart)

 

Then again, much to my horror I also discovered that the intended targets may move (are they even supposed to do that?).

 

Or in case of an exceptionally devious opponent, quite un-sportingly change course instead of civilly maintaining a straight line so I could bloody well hit them. Totally unfair.

 

TBH, I was well over 1 year and 4000+ battles into the game, before I bothered to read the in-game help and even that only because I accidentally touched the F1-button and it suddenly popped-up. After that, in utter frustration at my abysmal stats and having finally realized it's not just bad teams but my own ineptitude (boy that was tough to admit, I tell you), I began actually reading some game advise, joined the forum and watched a few videos to learn how the game works.

 

You know, just because it's really not very manly to be reading some frilly manuals or dweeby maps and sh*it (main reason why I just recently "discovered" the minimap). Real men are fri*gging dum*bas*ses but at the least it's sexy right, so we get all the chicks (in my case this is sadly irrelevant tho, wife makes sure of it).

 

The most worrying aspect of all this though is not that all of those embarrassing things happened, but the fact that since I am already old, bloody obstinate and hence somewhat slow to pick up on new things like smartphones, for example. Proof? Well I still use this:

BUT ... I have also begun to realize that, even after current 15.000+ battles...

I MIGHT NOT BE DONE WITH HIDEOUS DUM*BAS*SSERY YET!!!

 

Just remains to be seen, what it might turn out to be this time... But you know, live and learn eh? So according my calculations, at this pace and if I live to be 136, I might make a fairly decent player yet.

[DFens_666]

Maybe you have some ships in there which you havent touched in a while? I certainly have some, can see my progress from there pretty much

Spoiler

 

German Cruisers were the first line i played (except emden and Graf Spee in there ofc).

Also played all US lines/RU DDs/German BBs rather early.

I still remember this turd No range and slow af which basicly meant, game was over by the time i got anywhere

 

I think the only ship which i played from back then is Nassau... Maybe should do some others to polish the stats

[thiextar]

All these people saying its too late because they have played too many games to fix their stats.

 

Its never too late, if i look up your stats and see that you have been doing consistently well in your recent stats, i dont mind your possibly abysmal overall stats. Anyways, you should not play for the goal of getting better stats, just try to play better for the sake of doing so, stats are just a side-effect/footprint anyways, not an end goal.

[Air_Cheese]

When I play CV (T10, after rework),  I did check stat at the beginning and pick a good DD to support. 

 

I use matchmaking monitor which shows the stats of the current ship only, not the overall stats of the player. 

 

Taking about fixing the stats. I was like a complete noob at around 2000 games until I play ranked for the first time.

I had to learn to position, angle, shoot, hide, and learn to not only use "W" but also "A" "S" "D" to reach R1

Now is around 8000 random games, you can see the signature below for my latest stats.

 

Not a hard game, just people don't know what they are doing as I did before.