Update 0.8.7.1

[Contrador]

In its current form, Friesland is one of the weakest T9 DDs. I hope that a lot of people will waste free exp on Friesland.

[Zelar_Wicked]

Those are Swedish 120 mm/50 Bofors guns, i think more then the 4 rifles it got would be very OP.

[WascallyWabbit]

1 hour ago, Dracula said:

This is not what the game needs,The game is going to be destroyed with all this fast He spamming guns. First we got the Japanese DD,then the French,so the Russian Cruisers and now this crap .WELL DONE WG !

Falling player base means that to maintain the illusion of growth and stability they have to speed up the games, while in reality its less players playing more, faster games and thus maintaining the illusion. It's the same in WoT the player base has fallen if I remember correctly by around 20% over the last couple of years where as the game's played remains stable if not slightly increased. And yet games are around on average 6-8 minutes long compared to the 10-12 mins long in the first couple of years. Expect more faster firing, faster damage out put ships and overall faster ship's with faster game play and more open maps. Wg if nothing else are good at creating and maintaining the illusion.

[WascallyWabbit]

1 hour ago, Johmie said:

 

According to the picture there are eight that would contain 100 000 credits and three French Riviera camouflages, eight that would contain twenty signals (5 each of Equal Speed Charlie London, Zulu, Papa Papa, and Zulu Hotel), and sixteen bundles with 3 special signals and 100 000 credits (eight sorts of special signal, two bundles with each sort available).

Just no, don't do it peeps lol....it's a stingy and pathetic grab at trying to milk away your accumulated coal. Also a personal "just no" for the Freisland, just doesn't thrill me in the slightest.

[Alfa_Tau]

5 hours ago, The_EURL_Guy said:

Update 0.8.7.1 hits the live servers on September 4.

Read it on the portal

What are the final stats of the ship? on wiki is still not present. 

Thanks to anyone who can provide answer. 

 

[radius77]

Can somebody do a Friesland+Friesland+Smolensk div tomorrow and put gameplay on YT ?

 

I'd like to see WG "balance" in action 

[Shaka_D]

2 hours ago, Gidzi said:

I do not undrstand this bundle option. We can buy 32 bundles, but from what will each of them be made of?

Those random bundles are completely boring and massively underwhelming...who on earth would part with that much coal for such insignificant rewards? 3000 coal is far superior to those silly little bundles, lol. Have WG gone completely bonkers? Who's the guy that is putting a value on their goods?

[Pikkozoikum]

1 hour ago, radius77 said:

Can somebody do a Friesland+Friesland+Smolensk div tomorrow and put gameplay on YT ?

 

I'd like to see WG "balance" in action 

I really want see that

 

[tsounts]

46 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I really want see that

 

No, friesland, worcester, smolensk

[Redcap375]

There are no words. More HE spam.

 

As well as More American smoke (from which to spam from). More 5km Hyrdo. More defensive AA.

 

Strong? Different. No torps is never a good thing for a DD and I think we have to see how it performs on this one.

 

But I am glad that a Dutch ship is now in the game. They have earned it.

[Alfa_Tau]

1 hour ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I really want see that

 

I don't think it will work well. 

they have the same play style and rely on someone else to spot while shooting from smoke. Moreover Smolensk cannot afford to go front while Friesland as a DD hunter should be in front.

But same should happen with French DDs,, and insteads you see them sailing 10 km from closest cap shooting BB and giving a f@k about Others DD. 

[Pikkozoikum]

4 minutes ago, Alfa_Tau said:

I don't think it will work well. 

they have the same play style and rely on someone else to spot while shooting from smoke. Moreover Smolensk cannot afford to go front while Friesland as a DD hunter should be in front.

But same should happen with French DDs,, and insteads you see them sailing 10 km from closest cap shooting BB and giving a f@k about Others DD. 

but the memes :-|

[ChObAm]

1 hour ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

Well... tecnically the Iowas were still in service around that time as well.

 

True, but the Iowa's were refitted as cruise missile  platforms, and while they could have used hr 16 inch guns, they are  of no  real use in modern warfare, and the version we have is of the ww2 era.

 

we're   travelling into the world of  very  good auto loaders, where only one  gun was needed because of the rate of fire.

[HentaiSquirrel]

My honest and truly heartfelt opinion on that damned, horrible HE spam, scum of the seas, totally and utterly broken shyte is that it's something so utterly detestable, low-life, dirty, ridiculously despicable that it can only been seen as something to be ostracized immediately with maximum prejudice...  -- unless of course I'm the one spamming  

Spoiler

 

 

 

(disclaimer)

[IanH755]

You want me to swap Coal for signals, camos and credits - Sorry WG, I'm obviously not taking enough crystal meth for that deal to even begin to make sense but hey Sub Octavian, I guess that's just another "poorly thought-out initial idea" that WG came up with or do you think I'm still being "naive" about it? 

 

Enjoy another PR meltdown dude! 

[ATH67]

13 hours ago, BooMKani_Sensei said:

And when the Hayate is released ? Also this is a extremely modern ship, it doesn't belong in this game if i have to be honest.

Otherwise other nations also should get one. Japan is one of the nations to only own inter-war and ww2 ships, she doesn't has any post-war ships.

Not exactly. Four Akizukis were the only proper size DD survivors of WWII for Japan, and served in Allied Navies post war

 

If however you mean ships designed or constructed after WWII, then the German line also has no post-war ships. And in any case the Harugumo is a total paper ship that is totally out of place with any WWII-era actual or potential paper design (totally made up by WG) and having a complete fantasy ship that is not a paper ship and even worse, with attributes totally contrary to the ship design philosophy of the Japanese Navy, is a unique attribute ONLY to the Japanese line.

 

But it is bordering on the ridiculous to suggest that Japan should have post war ships for the simple reason that (a) she did not build any for about ten years after the war and (b) what she did build were anti-submarine vessels with very weak anti-surface armament (three Gearing-type guns) and no torpedoes. Friesland, in comparison, was a 1951 design and had very powerful anti ship gun armament and therefore it has a place in the game, which no Japanese post war ship could possibly have. 

 

With the singular exception of the Harugumo, there is a very strong rationale in Wargamings' choice of class/designs (even though they often get the balance totally wrong).     

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

12 hours ago, radius77 said:

Can somebody do a Friesland+Friesland+Smolensk div tomorrow and put gameplay on YT ?

 

I'd like to see WG "balance" in action 

Friesland, Gearing, Smolensk, you need skill walls for this meme division too... and surely some spotting!

[Timewarp76]

I'm not sure if this means that we will only have EU clans to fight in CB's today or that there is no CB at all. I'm leaning toward thinking it means no Clan Battles at all today due to the patch. Anyone have any info on it?

[Afghanicus]

The word 'random' is being used more and more when it comes to WG.

 

I believe the logo should have a dice on it to indicate the amount of gambling involved when playing WOWs.

 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

31 minutes ago, Palubarac said:

The word 'random' is being used more and more when it comes to WG.

 

I believe the logo should have a dice on it to indicate the amount of gambling involved when playing WOWs.

 

Just distance from "gambling" by advertising bundles with "random" content. They could have named this lucky boxes aswell. Yes, applause.

[Panocek]

17 hours ago, ChObAm said:

Seriously,  a ship class that was in service until 1991 

 

when do we get guided missiles :P

They were scheduled for 2017 as RU alternate DD branch but WG scrapped them and went for Grozovoi as we know instead. Never say never though, there are only so many ships to be added

[hellhound666]

1000 coal for 1 camo/special flag is bit deep i would say ...

[HentaiSquirrel]

On 9/3/2019 at 8:50 PM, Shaka_D said:

Those random bundles are completely boring and massively underwhelming...who on earth would part with that much coal for such insignificant rewards? 3000 coal is far superior to those silly little bundles, lol. Have WG gone completely bonkers? Who's the guy that is putting a value on their goods?

17 hours ago, IanH755 said:

You want me to swap Coal for signals, camos and credits - Sorry WG, I'm obviously not taking enough crystal meth for that deal to even begin to make sense but hey Sub Octavian, I guess that's just another "poorly thought-out initial idea" that WG came up with or do you think I'm still being "naive" about it?  (...)

13 hours ago, Palubarac said:

The word 'random' is being used more and more when it comes to WG. I believe the logo should have a dice on it to indicate the amount of gambling involved when playing WOWs.

12 hours ago, Von_Pruss said:

Just distance from "gambling" by advertising bundles with "random" content. They could have named this lucky boxes aswell. Yes, applause.

10 hours ago, hellhound666 said:

1000 coal for 1 camo/special flag is bit deep i would say ...

 

the good:

• since part 1 of the FR DD event started we now know, whether the 'surprise' (*tah*-*daaah*... ba-tsumm.) the rng tries to push seems overpriced in all but maybe one cases. (i.e. you get veeery lucky and the rare chance to grab Mogador, if you are so inclined). ...Actually I genuinely applaud the option to ignore my latent gimme-gimme-reflex without the least bit of regret.

the bad:

• the items/bundles offered seem pretty overpriced. Nothing for me worth spending more than a short glimpse:

and the ugly: 

• FR-DD-1...  initial chance of grabbing Mogador (if you are so inclined) is 1/30 -> initial chance of 96,33% to get 500k cr + 540k cr. worth of signals (selling price the inventory) = > 1500k cr. -- exactly what you'd get for buying  credits for the 1k doubloons the bundle would cost. Ok... sooner or later rng will gimme-gimme the Mogador. Worst case you spend ~ € 100,- for a T9 premium /w the usual bundle of signals and credits.
• No pun intended... Au contraire! (ok, lame, but that was one XD ) ...you might already guess where this is going ; )
• FR-DD-2...  100k cr + 3 Wyvern worth 135k cr. (when sold from inventory, prbly a bit more if exploited well in battle) -> 235k cr / 3k coal. While maybe fitting into the intricately balanced in-game economy... somehow meh.
• no need for advanced stochastic to realize whether the offer is something worth the coal/doubloons/credits/event tokens asked for it.  ...ymmv, of course : )

... and while it seems pretty meh to me, too - this isn't that ugly after all... considering, the entirely speculative (and non-political!)...

 

Dept. of scrying from fish entrails, 2nd hand smoke and crystal spheres:

 

There is, due to predatory conduct of [REDACTED] like EA, Ubi, etc, an increasing headwind against shafting gamers bare by amorally manipulating any instinct possible. And I do not see WG anywhere near business practices like that any time soon*. Their presciently suspending the sale of containers in Belgium in that context is one of the reasons i even considered throwing money at WoWs.

 

Wildly speculating now, I have the notion that the current experimenting /w crates and bundles might not exactly be considered as gambling - regarding the aforementioned... We know exactly what the max price is we would pay and what we are guaranteed to get for that. Anything else could be considered a bonus ;->

If i would have to place a bet, huehue :-) ... i'd say it's, umh.. WiP? Testing and balancing, you know? Hey, WoWs is still in beta, right? ;D 

 

Final thought: let's not stop complaining, nagging and - if we can't avoid it- even giving boring plain feedback ;-D

 

Frankly: i've seen a trainload of schijt over time and while i can't know what was before I even knew this game and community existed: in comparison to many, many other crowds (gaming or other) this is (still?) something quite unique!

So: good hunting, all you &%§&& sailors! 

 

_____

*) So yes, while aware that people have to make a living of WoWs for the game to exist I do find the current event related bundles rather meh and I wont by them. Maaaybe a little itchy for Friesland? Just, umh...idk... ??? Godverd.. - why do i suddenly crave liquorice?!? - HEY!!!  ;D