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Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

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1 minute ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

Maybe that guy (from your team or on the enemy team) was annoying - ramming someone into an island (had this 2 times someone ranged me like that) or shot him. 

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23 minutes ago, Butterfield8 said:

"Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play.

What about team killing? Is reporting for TK also excessive criticism? Usually, especially, when you're on the other team you have no clue what really happened

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When you play tier X for example and people with a 400 PR waste their ship in the first 5 minutes and insult the team for not being supportive, it is not a game anymore, it is learning resistance, stupidity, pure ignorance und unsporting behaviour. People like this need to be reported to mars and back.

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@OP Nobody likes to be told they suck at something, however if you suck at it then you suck and should be able to accept criticism, while the chat does tend to get "over and beyond" the  border of polite now and then (well often really) people should grow some skin

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Yes, this is a game. So what? Does that mean we should not tell players who actively ruin it to jog on? To treat them with courtesy and respect when they themselves don't do the same with their toxic gameplay?

 

Gimme a break. These players deserve far worse than a bunch of useless reports.

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25 minutes ago, squalus77 said:

What about team killing? Is reporting for TK also excessive criticism? Usually, especially, when you're on the other team you have no clue what really happened

Our team once had a spammer,must have been high or drunk but he would not stop annoying every one, I was i my Tirpitz, he was in some cruiser, in the end I just got mad sailed alongside him and killed him in one go, got a load of well done's and good jobs for that one,.

 

 

I n WoT's i was once reported for being called NoobySkooby, that still makes me smile even now, all these who love to scream bad stat, blah blah blah, report that player, shouldn't be in the game etc, I often wonder do their highly polished stats get then free drinks and endless sex?:Smile_trollface:

 

 

One valid tip for the OP, and this applies really when divisioned, just turn the chat to division,less of a distraction that way.:cap_like:

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Mute chat. If you want to imptowe - you will, if not, play as long as you enjoy. You can forget an @sports treatment for a title like WoWs becasue they still need + 2MM to populate queue times and really newer got the balancing right for all ship classes. Play LoL, CS for performance where it matters.

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54 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Gimme a break. These players deserve far worse than a bunch of useless reports.

 

Is it "these players" who are getting flamed though?

 

Usually the really bad players manage to get themselves killed quickly enough that nobody notices, but it's the DD who don't suicide into caps in the first five minutes or the CA who are still alive when over 1/2 the team are dead who end up taking the flak, usually from BB players camping 10 km behind the front line.

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If your gonna smoke up, sit still in smoke in front of a Shima and then moan about it as multiple torps slam into you. You sure as hell bet I’m gonna call you out on being a muppet. Just most players can’t accept when they’ve been called out on being bad.

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2 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

Pffth, that is easy to deal with lad. I usually immediately report any person for "misbehavior in chat", who asks me or the team to report anyone else. Unless of course, it is one of those rare occasions when such action might actually be valid (hiding AFK and not participating, team killing on purpose or some such extreme foolishness). Makes me feel so much better right away. :Smile_Default:JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED! :cap_like:

BWAHAHAHAHA!:cap_haloween:

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1 hour ago, squalus77 said:

What about team killing? Is reporting for TK also excessive criticism? Usually, especially, when you're on the other team you have no clue what really happened

Repoting a TK is pointless, game records team damage automatically so why waste limited reports? I don't get people who type in chat "report player thisandthat for TK". He goes pink, we can see that without someone telling he TK'd. He's already punished, he won't get punished more no matter how many reports we send (at most a chat ban to go with pink status and possible "coop softban").

 

Save your reports for stuff that game cannot automatically detect.

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2 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

 

I always tell people to report afk people. I don't even ask anymore to report the stupid people or just generic bad players since there are to many of them anyway. 

 

1 hour ago, nimlock said:

Mute chat

 

No. In rare occasions it's useful for communication with capable players.

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4 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

If some idiot on my team loses us the game by not doing something very simple even though several people repeatedly tell him to, thats a report from me. It happens way often than you think.

 

One would think that if a player is crap at the game and not capable of knowing what to do himself, he might listen to people who do know what to do.

 

Best example i can remember was a dd sitting right beside an unguarded cap for 5 minutes farming some battleship at max range with shitty guns, while the entire team yelled at him to get the cap, thats a report.

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    By-far my most used word in this game :cap_tea: People need to be told sometimes, else they will continue to be them.  However, most players wanna live in blissful ignorance.

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6 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

It's very good that WG finally implemented DISABLE CHAT. Now I can forget about all salty potatoes in chat. 

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6 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

 

It's not every day I see a quote from M*A*S*H the TV show on a game forum...

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The "excessive" criticism is born out of sheer frustration.

 

Frustration with afk players, with players who use BOTS, with players that sit and smoke and get torped, with players that really should be playing another form of the game. 

 

In any normal "team" game, players that just want to "have some fun", or kick the ball into their own goal for a "laugh" get put together, to keep the rest of the players sane. I am not advocating any sort of skill based matchmaking but there has to be some kind of bar to clear to get in to random games and play with other people who are actually trying to win.

 

When a 16,000 game player with 200 games in a Hindy tells everyone in chat to "ignore the epicentre" as killing ships is more important, then promptly sails to the edge of the map to snipe and does less than 10k damage all game, then yes, I'm going to report that player. Reporting does nothing, WG don't care about the mass of truly awful players now at top tier, WG have no intention of teaching them, the only way to vent is to report.

 

Had my first weekend away from the game in a while and it was liberating, so many poor players that have failed their way to tier10, all WG fault, the economy is broken, all the flags and camo's you can do next to nothing in a tier10 game and still make money, you should never get something for nothing, but WG wants to feed these bad players, it'll be the end of the game eventually.

 

Went back to WOW Classic over the weekend and even though the grind is beyond epic, at least everyone I met wanted to have "fun" and didn't just fall out of bed, lick the nearest window and start playing, even players who had never played Classic wanted to learn, a key driver an awful lot of ships players are missing, simply because WG have made it possible to be very, very bad and still infest tier 10 MM.

 

So, reporting is frustration, I blame WG 100%, the only way to "report" WG is not to pay any more cash, I wonder if that shows on a spreadsheet anywhere?

 

TB.

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8 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

 

When you have had an evening session of game after game of being top 3 scorer, played your heart out and still LOST because your team are a bunch of useless idiots time and again I think your patience might be wearing a bit thin. 

 

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4 hours ago, Europizza said:

I usually run out of reports within my 2 first matches :Smile_hiding:

Same here...

 

I still play mostly co-op because I just don't have the nerve to play with total idiots.

 

Don't get me wrong... I'm not a good player myself but when I see players in high tier ships which don't know the very basic stuff of the game... well, I just lose it. Plus the AFK ones, plus the ones launching torps with 0 situational awareness etc. etc.

 

So usually I either play relaxed co-op for an hour or so or I play Random or Ranked (Ranked even worse from my experience) and smash the keyboard, mouse and everything around me after the first match force closing the game itself. 

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9 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Yes, this is a game. So what? Does that mean we should not tell players who actively ruin it to jog on? To treat them with courtesy and respect when they themselves don't do the same with their toxic gameplay?

 

Gimme a break. These players deserve far worse than a bunch of useless reports.

I'd add into the category of toxic players those who report fellow teammates even though the battle was won. There is something very 'special' about these people who have so little empathy for anybody who's had a bad game but done the team no harm in the long term.

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There are a lot more instances of bad players who demand team mates report someone else for not doing what they wanted. It does get so very tedious but it's hardly the end of the world. 

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3 hours ago, 250swb said:

I'd add into the category of toxic players those who report fellow teammates even though the battle was won. There is something very 'special' about these people who have so little empathy for anybody who's had a bad game but done the team no harm in the long term.

 

Reports, all of them, say pretty clear what they are for. Plays Poorly is there for a reason. So if someone carries their behind off, they can't still put blame on you if you fall in the 'Plays poorly' category. What, because they had to carry extra weight and still won suddenly makes you have no blame for that extra weight?

 

Also, what if they reported you right away? Like you're a DD which goes to a cap, smokes up broadside and get torped ( happens to the best of us sometimes ) you might trigger someone to give you a report for playing poorly. If he then wins, should he retract the report when you still played poorly?

 

Sounds to me like the system there works as intended. 

 

You can argue about the function the report 'plays poorly' should have, but that's seperate from the people using it as currently implemented. 

 

ps. I am a very poor player, hence my low karma :Smile_trollface:

 

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12 hours ago, Butterfield8 said:

Lately I have noticed quite a bit of excessive criticism during game play. "Report this person!" appears to be many players favorite commentary on other's abilities and play. This is a game! It is not life and death! I like to win as much as the next guy but when you act this way you are taking the fun out of it for yourself and those who may be playing with you! "Pull down your pants and slide on the ice!"

well you have noticed they are writing that but did you noticed why they are doing that ? 

-team damage 

-afk

-sailing at the corner of the map 

-tons of stupid things cant write here will take all day 

 

there is a report button for poor play 

 

next time just pay attention ... so by reporting them later they will ruin less people's game 

 

And also random matches are PVP so kinda competetive play ,when you compete you expect from other people that they at least try to do their job expected from their class ....

 

go play CO-OP that is PVE nobody reports nobody there ....

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