What is the best Coal ship to get now?

[Rhineheart_Thor]

I nearly have enough coal, for another coal ship. However here is the thing:-

 

Smolensk :

 

Flamu is the number 1 wows player, he plays it, and makes it look easy. 

 

I am not Flamu I am just a below average every day grinder, who enjoys wows game, to my eyes it is not my best meta, it looks squashy, and I have seen far more players, die quickly in it, or go off and hide in it, they are not Flamu either.

 

Even though I play solo random, I still like to win, and that is a total team effort, I find if some one does not organise the team early, your on a rocky road to hell, so I tend to like " Self Contained Fighting units " , simple because though experience I can not rely on 11 other random players, self contained means some sort of ability to tank some damage, and survive long enough to try and have some influence for MY TEAM. If My Team Wins, I WIN. 

 

The Point:-

 

My Dichotomy Is this :-  Is Smolensk the best use of MY coal, when there are many more, more useful ships in the pipe line, that are my meta???  

 

Right now I am thinking " save my coal " dont do " knee jerk reactions " and wait and see what happens, case in point was the new CV game play debacle.

 

~ sofar 

[Panocek]

9 minutes ago, SmashUrr said:

I nearly have enough coal, for another coal ship. However here is the thing:-

 

Smolensk :

 

Flamu is the number 1 wows player, he plays it, and makes it look easy. 

 

I am not Flamu I am just a below average every day grinder, who enjoys wows game, to my eyes it is not my best meta, it looks squashy, and I have seen far more players, die quickly in it, or go off and hide in it, they are not Flamu either.

 

Even though I play solo random, I still like to win, and that is a total team effort, I find if some one does not organise the team early, your on a rocky road to hell, so I tend to like " Self Contained Fighting units " , simple because though experience I can not rely on 11 other random players, self contained means some sort of ability to tank some damage, and survive long enough to try and have some influence for MY TEAM. If My Team Wins, I WIN. 

 

The Point:-

 

My Dichotomy Is this :-  Is Smolensk the best use of MY coal, when there are many more, more useful ships in the pipe line, that are my meta???  

 

Right now I am thinking " save my coal " dont do " knee jerk reactions " and wait and see what happens, case in point was the new CV game play debacle.

 

~ sofar 

S_O confirmed in REEEddit Q&A coal/fxp ships are "not immune to balance checks" unless they are offered for cash as well. So if you want to be on safe side, Jean Bart or Georgia. Which are also coincidentally battleships, so more forgiving to play and less likely to get nerf via "global change"

 

And these two battleships perfectly fit into "self contained fighting unit" - they have speed, Speed Boost to overcome their clumsiness, armor, heals, decent to great AA, some secondaries for memes, range and good guns, either of overmatch variety or with MBRB for rapid citadel extraction

[Rhineheart_Thor]

9 minutes ago, Panocek said:

S_O confirmed in REEEddit Q&A coal/fxp ships are "not immune to balance checks" unless they are offered for cash as well. So if you want to be on safe side, Jean Bart or Georgia. Which are also coincidentally battleships, so more forgiving to play and less likely to get nerf via "global change"

 

And these two battleships perfectly fit into "self contained fighting unit" - they have speed, Speed Boost to overcome their clumsiness, armor, heals, decent to great AA, some secondaries for memes, range and good guns, either of overmatch variety or with MBRB for rapid citadel extraction

 

Thumbs Up

 

[Panocek]

Just now, SmashUrr said:

 

Thumbs Up

 

If you have Atlanta/Flint, then that would be closest ship in playstyle IMO to Smolensk - glass, many but small guns, though russian get russian ballistics. And there is still risk of Smol getting nerfed, if not from Spreadshiet data showing imbalans, then from "(BB) playerbase feedback". They removed stealth firing based on that, so enough whine and Smolensk can get hit as well with nerf or two

[Rhineheart_Thor]

1 minute ago, Panocek said:

If you have Atlanta/Flint, then that would be closest ship in playstyle IMO to Smolensk - glass, many but small guns, though russian get russian ballistics. And there is still risk of Smol getting nerfed, if not from Spreadshiet data showing imbalans, then from "(BB) playerbase feedback". They removed stealth firing based on that, so enough whine and Smolensk can get hit as well with nerf or two

 

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, SmashUrr said:

 

This is part where you do

 

And estimate yourself if Smolensk is up your alley

[CptBarney]

 

look boiz we did it.

 

 

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, CptBarney said:

 

look boiz we did it.

 

 

"You see, Smolensk is of balans. If she was overpowered, she would break 550k damage set by Hakuryu of old"

[Redcap375]

1 hour ago, SmashUrr said:

I nearly have enough coal, for another coal ship. However here is the thing:-

 

Smolensk :

 

Flamu is the number 1 wows player, he plays it, and makes it look easy. 

 

I am not Flamu I am just a below average every day grinder, who enjoys wows game, to my eyes it is not my best meta, it looks squashy, and I have seen far more players, die quickly in it, or go off and hide in it, they are not Flamu either.

 

 

Flamu has his faults.  He is actually a selfish player and plays like that, but no doubt he knows the game and how to play ships to their strengths. And that is the KEY! Play to your straights at all times. Many of us, including me, forget or refuse to change their playstyle for different ships. 

 

The Smol is NOT a hard ship to do well in, trust me.

 

Anything with buckets of HE and smoke will always be good for casual players.  You will nearly always get a kill (that poor DD) and due to it's good concealment you can smoke fire and get away when it gets too hot.  If you run out of smoke then find a hill.  Or just spam from the open when the enemy is already engaged, but only then. But i say that with tong-in-cheek, as i can out DMP and kill a heavy cruiser by doing just that...Balanced, Ho ho ho. 

 

Those that die are the ones who think firing in the open constantly is a good thing, it's not.  Even casual players in a Belfast can screw things up, the Smol is no different. 

 

Now the Colbert is a death trap for casual players so steer away from that one mate. 

 

The Grad didn't get a nerf and this ship wont too. 

 

It's easy to hit with, it has plenty of Fire, great con cement, usable torps, Fantastic AA and even a Heal.  Unless you play it like a complete muppet, you will do very well in it.

 

If you want a easy casual ship the the Jean is a good pick. If you havnt got the Des or no desire to grind to it, then the Salam is good as it's durable.  The Gorg suckers too many people into thinking it's a bralwer, it's not!!! It also has bad DPM and every shoot missed (if your not the greatest gunner) you feel. You are also covered in 32mm armour and still eat broadsides like any other US BB. 

 

Smolensk

10

U.S.S.R.

13

61.54%

1 811

126 793

1.69

3

Details

 

Mate, if i can get those number playing 13 games then it kinda sums it up.  Normally it takes me a number of games to break-even to get used to it, but took to it like a duck to water. I STILL have a 14 point captain on it without BFT.

 

If your a Groz player then this is a must.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

6 hours ago, CptBarney said:

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/tzolis-warship-designs.19710/page-5

 

Imagine some of these ships being added to the game.

 

Love some of the designs even if they probs will be imbalanced as hell.

 

Also 240mm russian cruiser maslov hmm.

 

toineh AA boutes as well screaming at over 50 knots (would be gud to have dem in could be quite easy to kill with stupidly high fire rates and a gud heal and noice concealment with fast speed, but somewhat big).

Oh lordy, a super Nelson, I could only dream and they still left out the spotter plane, lol, some damn good designs there, maybe, just maybe a WG dev might be reading this, lol.

 

In fact just like the sister game WoT's, it would be nice to see what ships ARE in the hidden game files

[CptBarney]

1 hour ago, NoobySkooby said:

Oh lordy, a super Nelson, I could only dream and they still left out the spotter plane, lol, some damn good designs there, maybe, just maybe a WG dev might be reading this, lol.

 

In fact just like the sister game WoT's, it would be nice to see what ships ARE in the hidden game files

Yeah, some of the designs are nuts but i like them regardless, the AA cruisers are interesting touch as well, wouldn't mind seeing more CV designs as well.

 

Churchill super cruiser looks very interesting with quad barrels.

 

Same, i think georgia was in the game for ages and dragged her out eventually, Nelson bismarck would probs be jokes unless they gib it good accuracy (or even just average) and long range secondaries.

[The_Gathering]

Jean Bart + Smolensk. 

[gustywinds]

I was saving for JB but I’ve quit playing for a bit.

[Kysmet]

A steamboat. :)

[Panocek]

13 minutes ago, Kysmet said:

A steamboat. :)

So, Halloween ships will be for coal?

[Rhineheart_Thor]

Just now, Panocek said:

So, Halloween ships will be for coal?

Unknown as yet.

 

However in last weeks twitch stream, @MrConway and @Crysantos, Where asked if, EX Game ships would return, The answer was suitably vague, and hinted that " there could be a possibility " of some ships showing up on " a " Black Friday,

 

I do not know if this was a light hearted, jest ( as the question always comes up ) or was it some sort of subtle hint ?

 

We will see.

 

My 2cents would be:- 

 

If I owned WOWS I would bring " EX Ships " back with out even blinking an eye lid,  for a price, and on special occasions.  But I do not own WOWS so ~ 'Que Sera Sera

 

~  

[Breezewind]

After getting Smolensk for coal, I'm having regrets not getting the Georgia. Smolensk is pretty unrewarding ship to play, in my opinion. I'm enjoying my Alaska much more.

[HMS_Kilinowski]

On 9/1/2019 at 7:54 PM, Puffin_ said:

We have

Smolensk  , Yoshino, Salem and Georgia

in the Armory to chose from. 

I do have Jean Bart (my precious)

I'd say all ships have their merits. A ship can only be as good as the player. I struggle to make USN-CAs and USN-CLs work, so I personally would not do well with Salem and probably rather average with Smolensk, powerful as it may be. I am pretty used to Zao and french CAs. For me the Yoshino is a wild card and has an impact on the game. Georgia looks like an interesting mix of french agility, Massa-like secondaries and powerful yet trollish main guns. Didn't like Gneisenau much, so Georgia is imo not reliable enough.

[NothingButTheRain]

On 9/1/2019 at 8:03 PM, FishDogFoodShack said:

Smolensk is the only option.

this

[NothingButTheRain]

2 hours ago, gustywinds said:

I was saving for JB but I’ve quit playing for a bit.

JB will still be a good investment, in my opinion, for whenever you decide to make a return 

Consider spending your ship coupon on something, as its potential will be wasted if you don't 

[159Hunter]

20 hours ago, SmashUrr said:

You get 2 x Overchkins Captains both can be transferred for 1 purchase 

 

 1 x for light cruisers and 1 x for heavy cruisers  

 

Unless this changed on the new offer, I think I bought mine some time in 2018 

 

There is a chance I may of purchased 2 or won one, I can not remember.

 

 

I misunderstood your post, I read that you use the same Ovechkin on Moskva and Des Moines. Rather, you have two.

In that case, ignore my message.

[Rhineheart_Thor]

@CptBarney

 

Thank you for posting that, it is very interesting.

 

o7

 

This looks very useful right now :o)

 

[anonym_FDOLXpxOfXXq]

Georgia is really great for some easy bot-molesting in coop :D

Requires its own captain though, unless you already got Massa.

Haven't tried the ship in randoms yet, might suffer from the main guns limitations there.

[fumtu]

On 9/2/2019 at 10:43 AM, SmashUrr said:

Smolensk :

 

Flamu is the number 1 wows player, he plays it, and makes it look easy. 

 

I am not Flamu I am just a below average every day grinder, who enjoys wows game, to my eyes it is not my best meta, it looks squashy, and I have seen far more players, die quickly in it, or go off and hide in it, they are not Flamu either.

 

Flamu is not number 1 wows player, he is really good at game not not the best out there. Also if doesn't matter if Flamu can do it and you can't because Flamu is comparing ship by his own experience in other ships on the same tier. If he can do way better in one T10 cruiser then in all others T10 cruisers of course that he will consider that ship OP. This doesn't have anything with "Flamu can do 400k damage in the ship but I,  just a below average every day grinder, can't do 100k so that ship is not OP". By that reasoning not a single ship is OP. 

 

Also Flamu is not the only one who consider Smolensk .... well let say probably a too strong for a game

 

 

 

 

 

Smolensk is not OP in the way that it is completely broken, it still has some clear weakness, mostly in the area of armour protection and low HP. If you are not careful you will evaporate quickly. But its strengths far outweighs its weaknesses. IMO it should be toned down a notch and it would still be good ship.

[CptBarney]

1 hour ago, SmashUrr said:

@CptBarney

 

Thank you for posting that, it is very interesting.

 

o7

 

This looks very useful right now :o)

 

No probs, i love unusual ship designs or refits of current older ships in general.

 

I need to find a tutorial online on how to draw them properly so i can draw up my own designs.

 

25 gun yammy would be mental in this game. 

 

Nelson ricchy would be interesting and some of those aa ships would be nice to have too.