[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #1 Posted September 1, 2019 You know, the good ones, Kutuzov, GC, Mighty Mo, why where they removed ans is there any chance they may ever come back, maybe GC will comeback alongside the upcoming Italian line, who knows. As for the Mighty Mo, shame more BB's do not have radar. 1 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #2 Posted September 1, 2019 Throw Money at WG when they sell XMas containers again. You can get them from there Might even say, they deliberately make those ships to cash in on them like that Chances that any of those return apart from XMas containers? I dont think so... 5 minutes ago, NoobySkooby said: As for the Mighty Mo, shame more BB's do not have radar. BBs dont need Radar Alltho i think, the outcry with Missouri Radar was too much. People where crying why BBs sit in the back. So WG made a BB which should be played more aggressive (so you can use the Radar) and people started to whine even harder. Missouri was never OP. It ruined the economy for WG tho. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #3 Posted September 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, NoobySkooby said: Kutuzov, GC, Mighty Mo They were all OP in some way and the only way you'll get them is in Xmas Crates. But if you want that feeling, just get yourself a Sinop. All the fun, none of the £££. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #4 Posted September 1, 2019 gr8 b8 m8 8 out of 8 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #5 Posted September 1, 2019 Again, a question that has been asked quite a few times. Missouri won't be back, I am 99% sure on that for the simple reason it sold REALLY well. 750k FreeXP, even though it sounded ridiculous back then was a cheap price to pay for a battleship with obvious advantages and radar. The standard it would appear today is for FreeXP T9 ships to be 1million FreeXP and they do not have the insane credit earning Missouri did. If they released it again, it would have to be at the same price it was originally sold at and I think if it wasn't a lot of people would complain. Therefore I doubt it will ever return. As for Kutuzov, that ship came out what, 3 years ago? It hasn't been back on sale since then, why? Because it was very strong back then and is still very strong today even with the smoke nerfs! Same as the Belfast, smoke AND radar? That didn't last long did it... Now although you could still get it in christmas containers last year and I believe the year before, the chances of getting these lost premiums are very slim and I think WG keep the "banished" premiums in there to get the extra dosh for people trying to get themselves such ships. Will any of these lost premiums return to the store? Perhaps some day... but ships like Gremyaschy which were very strong but are now in a good spot stand a better chance than a ship like the Missouri or Kutuzov. 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #6 Posted September 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, CptMinia said: Again, a question that has been asked quite a few times. Missouri won't be back, I am 99% sure on that for the simple reason it sold REALLY well. 750k FreeXP, My money is on the 1%. I think there,s a possibility the camouflage colour could change: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #7 Posted September 1, 2019 I have updated the meme. 29 minutes ago, SmashUrr said: My money is on the 1%. I think there,s a possibility the camouflage colour could change: I really doubt that, black ships could only be bought in the premium shop or be dropped in a black container for a really small chance. Now technically, you could still get Missouri in the christmas containers. Don't see why they'd make a black version... it would cause a huge ruckus. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #8 Posted September 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, CptMinia said: I really doubt that, black ships could only be bought in the premium shop or be dropped in a black container for a really small chance. Now technically, you could still get Missouri in the christmas containers. Don't see why they'd make a black version... it would cause a huge ruckus. a) The Radar is not that useful b) I don't think it would make that big of a ruckus c) Unlike a " lot of people" I don't spend time begging for codes, and spamming "sh1t" in twitch chat, I actually listen to what " The Presenters " say when " answering questions. By the time you have spotted any thing, " The Fish " are already on route, and that cool down Baby, I have time to shave and make a cup of tea waiting for it. I might also add Missouri is not my " go to " T9 BB 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacFergus Beta Tester 1,067 posts 4,880 battles Report post #9 Posted September 1, 2019 Its great marketing by WG but they made sure they sold enough of them before actually removing them to Loot-boxes. I can tell you now it was divisions of Belfast's and Kutuzov's that were causing the problem as a solo ship they were not that bad they were easy to kill sure they were strong and here's the peach Good players knew how to exploit their strengths so it wasn't uncommon to see a division of these ships in MM same goes for the Kami sisters and the Mighty Mos. Im a big fan of nerfing ships that are considered to be op by the community and WG could certainly do this but they chose not to I mean when they nerfted the Jap DDs they didn't even bother to touch the Kami sisters instead they put them in expensive loot-boxes where they could go for as much as 20-40 times their original value. This will happen over and over again even when a CC says a ship is completely op WG will ignore them sell the ship for a year then remove them to only sell them some more in loot-boxes for even more money. Take it from me if your selling op ships in loot-boxes that have been removed from the game its does not take a genius to figure out that removing them from the game was a sham. Just my opinion. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #10 Posted September 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SmashUrr said: a) The Radar is not that useful b) I don't think it would make that big ruckus c) Unlike a " lot of people" I don't spend time begging for codes, and spamming "sh1t" in twitch chat, I actually listen to what what " The Presenters " say when " answering questions. A) The radar IS useful, it is a bonus for the missouri. There is no disadvantage it brings. B) A ship that was available for 750k FreeXP or for a very rare chance in a christmas container that is notable for making way too many credits and being a representation of THE "USS Missouri", that hasn't made an appearance in ages and that we've been led to believe would never come back, suddenly is featured as a black ship which you can buy on the store or earn in black containers. Yeah, I think there would be quite a bit of talk about it... it was already a big surprise when WG announced it would pull it out of sale. I think there's a good chance it will make as big a noise if they re-labeled it and stuck it in the store not only for a different currency but different price. C) Right... your point is what exactly? If you have information that is new to me and perhaps others, share it. You don't have to go insulting people who watch twitch, that's just immature. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #11 Posted September 1, 2019 'Ships that are no more'.. the stuff of legends. What am I saying, 'legends' means ships that never were, the 'cream of world's shipbuilding'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #12 Posted September 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, CptMinia said: C) Right... your point is what exactly? If you have information that is new to me and perhaps others, share it. You don't have to go insulting people who watch twitch, that's just immature. Madam, "YOU SAID " you where 99% certain it would not be back, I said I would bet on that 1% it would be back ~~ simple Insulting people spamming, posting malicious codes and contents, disrupting the WOWS bonus code system, and posting " Arguably Criminal Illegal Content, in the chat of official twitch stream, Trust ME I do a lot more than insult them. Discussion Closed Madam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #13 Posted September 1, 2019 Battleships don't need radar. The main advantage of destroyers is their concealment. They are supposed to be the counter to battleships (if rock-paper-scissors is still a thing), why would you give those battleships a tool that hardcounters it? Cruisers are supposed to be the counter to destroyers, so cruisers with radar make sense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #14 Posted September 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, SmashUrr said: Madam, "YOU SAID " you where 99% certain it would not be back, I said I would bet on that 1% it would be back ~~ simple Insulting people spamming, posting malicious codes and contents, disrupting the WOWS bonus code system, and posting " Arguably Criminal Illegal Content, in the chat of official twitch stream, Trust ME I do a lot more than insult them. Discussion Closed Madam. Don't call me Madam, I have a username. You want to address me, please use that instead. Also yes, I am positive the missouri won't be back and understood clearly your opinion is that it would. But I have yet to read or see any credible reason as to why you believe so. As for your statement on the "lot of people" who abuse of the twitch chat, I find it aggressive, provocative and irrelevant to the thread. Keep it out of here, it has absolutely nothing to do in this topic. So as you said, discussion closed on that. Kind regards, Minia. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #15 Posted September 1, 2019 49 minutes ago, CptMinia said: I have updated the meme. I really doubt that, black ships could only be bought in the premium shop or be dropped in a black container for a really small chance. Now technically, you could still get Missouri in the christmas containers. Don't see why they'd make a black version... it would cause a huge ruckus. They might do what they did with the mutant and pz j 2, and bring it back regardless but only for a day or so or a stupidly high price. Or both. I'd rather have a georgia version doe pls. I think cornstat and sushi might return (the former because its actually quite balanced from what i've seen, the latter moneh). Gib yorkie pls... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #16 Posted September 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Robber_Baron said: Battleships don't need radar. The main advantage of destroyers is their concealment. They are supposed to be the counter to battleships (if rock-paper-scissors is still a thing), why would you give those battleships a tool that hardcounters it? Even WG agrees with you on that one. Soviet BBs started with a special BB only radar, before they realised it was situationally much too strong.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #17 Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, MacFergus said: Take it from me if your selling op ships in loot-boxes that have been removed from the game its does not take a genius to figure out that removing them from the game was a sham. Just my opinion. Honestly I use the ship, and I really do not think it is over powered, The Radar is not very useful, and because of its " Name " you get focused up. The speed is good, but the rudder shift and maneuverabillity is only going to get you in trouble if you think its a good idea to get into small islands, The 406,s are not bad but the desperation is a " little out there " at 261 base, Anyways ~~ What will be, Will be, we can only see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #18 Posted September 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, CptBarney said: They might do what they did with the mutant and pz j 2, and bring it back regardless but only for a day or so or a stupidly high price. Or both. I'd rather have a georgia version doe pls. I think cornstat and sushi might return (the former because its actually quite balanced from what i've seen, the latter moneh). Gib yorkie pls... Don't play WoT so I can't compare. I think Musashi and Kronshtadt could return at some point, whether they will though I really don't know. We've not seen a single FreeXP ship return to the tech tree or arsenal for FreeXP since they removed it yet. They were available for coal, but I won't count that. Honestly, I think it would be more likely to see a premium New Jersey or Wisconsin make it into the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #19 Posted September 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, CptMinia said: Don't play WoT so I can't compare. I think Musashi and Kronshtadt could return at some point, whether they will though I really don't know. We've not seen a single FreeXP ship return to the tech tree or arsenal for FreeXP since they removed it yet. They were available for coal, but I won't count that. Honestly, I think it would be more likely to see a premium New Jersey or Wisconsin make it into the game. Yeah mister mutant, pz 2 j and type 59 made a comeback eventually despite promises saying they won't (even video evidence of that for the mutant). They even sold the type 59 g at some point too. Pls buff toineh T-34-2. if peeps make enuff angreh noises they could get corn and sushi bak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted September 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, CptBarney said: Yeah mister mutant, pz 2 j and type 59 made a comeback eventually despite promises saying they won't (even video evidence of that for the mutant). They even sold the type 59 g at some point too. Pls buff toineh T-34-2. if peeps make enuff angreh noises they could get corn and sushi bak. Gold version was sold on the 'Black Market', can't remember how many were available but the price was about 26k gold. Hype 59 is how they made such a huge bundle with Christmas boxes in 2017. The hype did not return for Christmas 2018 (though the screaming woman did IIRC). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #21 Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Gold version was sold on the 'Black Market', can't remember how many were available but the price was about 26k gold. Hype 59 is how they made such a huge bundle with Christmas boxes in 2017. The hype did not return for Christmas 2018 (though the screaming woman did IIRC). 26k gold? Dat's a lot of loose change m8. wot screaming woman? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,190 battles Report post #22 Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, NoobySkooby said: As for the Mighty Mo, shame more BB's do not have radar. Wut? WG had some crazy radar BBs - the RN ones in their first tests had radar. Same with Russian BBs (though this one could detect only BBs) We don't need more radar meta. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #23 Posted September 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, CptBarney said: 26k gold? Dat's a lot of loose change m8. wot screaming woman? It is. The 'Christmas garage' featured 'sophisticated music' and a woman occasionally screaming in the background. According to a popular legend, the screaming was caused by a well known hamster. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #24 Posted September 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: It is. The 'Christmas garage' featured 'sophisticated music' and a woman occasionally screaming in the background. According to a popular legend, the screaming was caused by a well known hamster. Lmao. She that desperate? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #25 Posted September 2, 2019 14 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Wut? WG had some crazy radar BBs - the RN ones in their first tests had radar. Same with Russian BBs (though this one could detect only BBs) We don't need more radar meta. Oh I don't know mate, I was thinking maybe buff the Jean Bart, maybe giver her Radar and torps, plus a fighter or spotter option too, too much is never enough right? I am ofc jesting for those who take me a little to seriously Whats the deal with the Kutuzov and the GC though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
