Discounts on defeats this month ???

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, Floofz said:

This isnt random behavior, this is a pattern. What the motivations are I dont know, but I would be suprised if it was anything but making people spend money on the game.

That is because you play only very few solo battles.

The lower the numbers, the bigger the variation.

[Floofz]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

That is because you play only very few solo battles.

The lower the numbers, the bigger the variation.

 

Right now I do yes. Because its completely killed my motivation to play. I used to play much more. I only play randoms in divisions now, but I focus mainly on ranked, cbs and operations. And no, ranked doesnt behave like that at all, only random battles MM behaves so strangely.

[loppantorkel]

6 hours ago, MerchantPrince said:

Meh. Get yourself some postgrads like everyone.

Finally ranked out, but it took a lot of 'passive tanking' in Randoms and some reboots to get the proper MM to carry me there

[MacFergus]

4 hours ago, Floofz said:

 

As someone else said the problem doesnt lie in staying at 50-55% winrate. Id also be happy with 50-52% winrate because it would mean that I would be within my skillgap. But here in lies the problem, the WR doesnt behave like that, atleast not for me, or atleast not within the past 4-5 months. When Im playing solo I will have a winrate either below 40% or above 65%. And its not on a day to day basis either. I will be stuck with a very low winrate or a very high winrate for weeks, so my overall WR jumps up and down from 56.0% up to 57% like a jojo. This isnt random behavior, this is a pattern. What the motivations are I dont know, but I would be suprised if it was anything but making people spend money on the game.

So how do you account for people who keep their WR in the high 60s or 70s?. Their is one common denominator They are good players and good players in a division will normally tip the advantage in random games enough to achieve 6/10 or 7/10 victories even higher with the old CV set up what I would have given to be on a top CV players team in those days. 

[mtm78]

On 9/1/2019 at 4:35 AM, MacFergus said:

So if you really give a monkeys about your WR you know what to do now but I will say this as a solo player myself I have never grouped with any chaps I don't expect for my WR to go above 55% I would be happy with 50% Even if your between 47% 50% your pretty average.

 

Nope. It's quite doable to get 60% solo win rate overall. 

 

21 hours ago, Floofz said:

When Im playing solo I will have a winrate either below 40% or above 65%.

 

Lol you should see my recents. My Izmail is rocking a solo 34% wr in 20 or so battles. Just don't worry about it to much, streaks happen ( and in my case I'm also not playing that well will take me some time to get my bearing again ). 

 

17 hours ago, MacFergus said:

So how do you account for people who keep their WR in the high 60s or 70s?. Their is one common denominator They are good players and good players in a division will normally tip the advantage in random games enough to achieve 6/10 or 7/10 victories even higher with the old CV set up what I would have given to be on a top CV players team in those days. 

 

Wait, wasn't this about solo wr? 

[MacFergus]

2 hours ago, mtm78 said:

 

Nope. It's quite doable to get 60% solo win rate overall. 

 

 

Lol you should see my recents. My Izmail is rocking a solo 34% wr in 20 or so battles. Just don't worry about it to much, streaks happen ( and in my case I'm also not playing that well will take me some time to get my bearing again ). 

 

 

Wait, wasn't this about solo wr? 

It may be doable that does not mean its achievable for most people.

 

Yes it was about solo players but I was pointing out how most purples do keep their WR high , If you solo 100% chances are you WR will plummet at some point its only a matter of time , Those solo players that keep it at 55-58% are truly excellent players.

 

Hey once I had a 57% WR..

[mtm78]

I once was very close to 65% overall, I set it as a goal, then I started dropping again to 64%. Now I'm dropping to 62% quickly because of my abysmall recents. 

 

Maybe my wr was inflated due to clubbing all the new players when OBT started, in that case it will keep dropping

 

Time will tell 

 

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But I'm still a bit proud of my > 60% solo wr 

 

 

 

[NothingButTheRain]

On 8/31/2019 at 10:14 AM, Herbstnebel1975 said:

What is happening with this game MM ? 90% of my games are defeats no matter what tier I play. And not just thrilling defeats but all like whole my team is crushed within half of the battle time while maybe 1 or 2 of the enemy ships are sunk. Sometimes you win the first battle of the day but after that it's all frustration after frustration. I've noticed that some players are leaving the game earlier as they see that another upcoming defeat is near and any resistance is futile.

My general winrate lowered from 51 % to 50 % in such a short time.

 

I don't know if other players are having the same issue as me, it is possible that I am on the losing cycle but this time it's taking to long.

There are players that have left WoT for the same reason just like me, if WoWs is heading the same way then I will do the same.

 

For now, wows is going on a lock for some time. I'll come back later to check if something has changed and the gameplay is fun again like before.

On your profile, this is what I see:

 

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Sometimes there's just not much you can do about it. Superficially you seem to have played at around your own capablities, so in the end I could assume that what you experienced, was mostly a case of bad luck.

 

Or the weekend potatoes, choose whatever explanation is best to your tastes 

[MacFergus]

5 hours ago, mtm78 said:

I once was very close to 65% overall, I set it as a goal, then I started dropping again to 64%. Now I'm dropping to 62% quickly because of my abysmall recents. 

 

Maybe my wr was inflated due to clubbing all the new players when OBT started, in that case it will keep dropping

 

Time will tell 

 

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But I'm still a bit proud of my > 60% solo wr 

 

 

 

Indeed you were always a good solo player and you make some good points , The player base has improved as time has passed I noticed that , I was a king in CBT now im a peasant but then again I loved the stealth firing and the good old Jap DDs when they truly were great to play ohh the memories.

 

I was a King in my Murmansk bobbing and weaving kiting those BBs and they couldn't even see me

[GarrusBrutus]

14 hours ago, mtm78 said:

Nope. It's quite doable to get 60% solo win rate overall. 

 

Seems like it isnt for most of the players. 

[mtm78]

1 minute ago, GarrusBrutus said:

 

Seems like it isnt for most of the players. 

 

I meant that if I could, I guess most people could if they actually tried. I really think it's just lack of will to improve for a lot of people and this mainly because they think it wouldn't 'work' for them for some reason. 

[ColonelPete]

4 hours ago, mtm78 said:

I meant that if I could, I guess most people could if they actually tried.

That is mathematically not possible.

If most people tried and even got better, guess what? Most players would still be around 50%. And some of the 60% unicums would go down to 59% or lower.

[mtm78]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

That is mathematically not possible.

If most people tried and even got better, guess what? Most players would still be around 50%. And some of the 60% unicums would go down to 59% or lower.

 

Actually it is, because I am talking about the single individual who imho always could be able to be taught certain actions even if just through endless repetition.

 

You read it as me saying everyone who tries should be able to do it, well that would be pretty hard indeed since it's impossible for everyone to reach that win rate at the same time. That's a correct observation when considering the whole playerbase, but not with just any single individual. 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

Then it is not most people.

[Herbstnebel1975]

The defeat collection just continues. I'll guess that it will go on untill I reached  a general winrate of 48/49 % again, that's were I ever started 2 years ago and then turns back to 50/50 wins/loses .

you can say, that's all because YOU are a bad player but then again...depends the victory of a 12 player team all on ONE person ???Why is it called a TEAMgame ??? Sometimes you get in battles were youre DD's go yolo and all dies within 3 minutes of the game...then the question is, what can you do about it to turn the tide ??? Hoping that someone will supports you or just support another (top tier) player ? I allways put my bets and the last choice but it doesn't help a lot.

 

[ColonelPete]

12 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

you can say, that's all because YOU are a bad player but then again...depends the victory of a 12 player team all on ONE person ???Why is it called a TEAMgame ??? Sometimes you get in battles were youre DD's go yolo and all dies within 3 minutes of the game...then the question is, what can you do about it to turn the tide ??? Hoping that someone will supports you or just support another (top tier) player ? I allways put my bets and the last choice but it doesn't help a lot.

That applies to the individual battle, not all of them.

• Sometimes you blow up in the first three minutes and still win
• Sometimes you decide the game for your team in the last minute
• Sometimes you shoot the enemy team to pieces and still lose

When you look at all battles, everyone has the same ratio of good or bad teams or strong or weak enemies. 

The winrating tells you what you make of it.

[DFens_666]

17 minutes ago, Herbstnebel1975 said:

you can say, that's all because YOU are a bad player but then again...depends the victory of a 12 player team all on ONE person ???Why is it called a TEAMgame ??? Sometimes you get in battles were youre DD's go yolo and all dies within 3 minutes of the game...then the question is, what can you do about it to turn the tide ??? Hoping that someone will supports you or just support another (top tier) player ? I allways put my bets and the last choice but it doesn't help a lot.

 

 

Did i deserve to win this one? Not if i look only at my own performance. But the thing is, your own contribution does not matter EVERY game! Sometimes it doesnt matter and you win, sometimes it doesnt matter because you eventually lose.

But there are games, where it does matter. And those games make the difference whether you have 40% or 60% WR (or anything in between)

You cant look at one specific game "uh i did 200k damage but i lost"... crap happens. You get those games like i have in my Mogami aswell. I could have been AFK and still won it. You get those games - i get those game, everybody gets them. And if you have enough games played, you will have an equal amount of wins, where you didnt need to do much and losses, where no matter what you would have done, you would have lost.

 

My best game ever so far. Did i deserve to lose it? Doesnt matter, it simply was impossible to win.

 

If you stay at 50% WR - then its just your personal level. Only you can change it by getting better at the game. Whether you want (or can) is a different story. But accepting it and not blaming others is the first step to being a better player.

Lets look at your games from today

https://wows-numbers.com/de/user/snapshot/ships.ajax?accountId=501327475&date=2019-09-02&type=pvp

Just by pure numbers, you did bad with Fubuki and Okto. Maybe you could have won those if you would have played differently? You won the Orion game, which seems fair enough.

The 2 Kagero games you have had decent damage, but for DDs its not as much about dealing damage to win a game. Or maybe you did everything right and it just wasnt meant to be. That i cant tell from those numbers. But its still possible, that the losses with Fubuki and Okto could have been wins with better performance.

The more consistent you get, the more games you will win. If you do poorly (die too early in a DD / sit too far back in a BB) you cant decide the game.