[T2FTW] DanottiTR Beta Tester 241 posts 19,509 battles Report post #1 Posted August 28, 2019 WG removed this ship long ago couse it was found toxic back in the day by the community ... and now we are not short of any kind of spammer ships in the game why not good old Kikatami is not coming back ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #2 Posted August 28, 2019 Oh ffs this again? Kitakami would be the most worthless ship in the entire game right now. And they didn't remove it because it was toxic. They removed it because they found a second line torp ship lead to too much teamkilling as should've been expected. In fact it used to be a myth that Kitakami sank more friendly ships than enemies in her existence in WoWs. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #3 Posted August 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Oh ffs this again? Kitakami would be the most worthless ship in the entire game right now. And they didn't remove it because it was toxic. They removed it because they found a second line torp ship lead to too much teamkilling as should've been expected. In fact it used to be a myth that Kitakami sank more friendly ships than enemies in her existence in WoWs. Because there were no ultra deep water VB torps mate..... I wanna see it with Asashio torps 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #4 Posted August 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Because there were no ultra deep water VB torps mate..... I wanna see it with Asashio torps Because surely making Asashio obsolete would be in WG's money making interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #5 Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, El2aZeR said: Because surely making Asashio obsolete would be in WG's money making interest. Nerfing the reload on those torps and the range won't. Making them 12km. Why not. I just meant Asashio type of torps that hit only BB. So less TKs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #6 Posted August 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Nerfing the reload on those torps and the range won't. Making them 12km. Why not. I just meant Asashio type of torps that hit only BB. So less TKs. With 9km concealment you're gonna need better range than that. Also perhaps I need to remind you that you practically explode instantly when anything looks at you the wrong way? Even the IJN torp DDs can outgun you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #7 Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, El2aZeR said: With 9km concealment you're gonna need better range than that. Also perhaps I need to remind you that you practically explode instantly when anything looks at you the wrong way? Even the IJN torp DDs can outgun you. Yep. That's why it needs some gimmick. Some? Or maybe.... Italian smoke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #8 Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Yep. That's why it needs some gimmick. Some? Or maybe.... Italian smoke If you need a ton of gimmicks just to make a ship work then the end result can't be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #9 Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: If you need a ton of gimmicks just to make a ship work then the end result can't be good. Smoke would be enough. And Asashio torps would be fine with less range than Asashio and longer reload. Some ships are having even more gimmicks than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #10 Posted August 28, 2019 44 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: And they didn't remove it because it was toxic. They removed it because they found a second line torp ship lead to too much teamkilling as should've been expected. In fact it used to be a myth that Kitakami sank more friendly ships than enemies in her existence in WoWs. Nah the myth is that Kita in it's short live killed more friendlies then any other ship in the game, even if they been in the game since alpha. I'm not even sure it IS a myth, I can remember the games where troll Kita divisions started sailing in the middle of the fleet and we were just looking at the battle timer to know when they were going to teamkill everyone they could. No automated ban system, no damage reduction for consecutive team damage and no reflected damage ( though the latter feels like it was introduced around the time? My memory is a bit shoddy ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-IAN-] IanH755 Players 2,100 posts 7,141 battles Report post #11 Posted August 28, 2019 Yeap I want it back as part of a PvE scenario or event only, like Halloween, April Fools etc and NOT for PvP in anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #12 Posted August 28, 2019 I thought Rogue Wave was nothing but Kitakamis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #13 Posted August 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Smoke would be enough. Nah. Wanna know how I know? Kita had smoke. The normal kind tho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #14 Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, El2aZeR said: Oh ffs this again? Kitakami would be the most worthless ship in the entire game right now. And they didn't remove it because it was toxic. They removed it because they found a second line torp ship lead to too much teamkilling as should've been expected. In fact it used to be a myth that Kitakami sank more friendly ships than enemies in her existence in WoWs. This! So much this! Kitakami was pretty worthless against red team back in the day because random mediocre players tried playing it like a DD with 40 torps, but that doesnt work. Then they tried to spam those 40 torps from the 3:rd line (skilled players as they were) only to teamkill a whole bunch of allied DDs, cruisers and BBs in the process. It would even be more useless now with all new lines and ships that has been released, it would only die fast and decimate a lot of friendlys in the process. If the clue eating average potato want to spam torps everywhere, he just needs to wait for Benham getting sold. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #15 Posted August 28, 2019 Considering all the weird they're stuffing into the game, and with submarines making their way in as well... I mean, why the hell not? Might as well add the Courageous class Battlecruisers and the Habbakuk while they're at it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #16 Posted August 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: This! So much this! Kitakami was pretty worthless against red team back in the day because random mediocre players tried playing it like a DD with 40 torps, but that doesnt work. Then they tried to spam those 40 torps from the 3:rd line (skilled players as they were) only to teamkill a whole bunch of allied DDs, cruisers and BBs in the process. It would even be more useless now with all new lines and ships that has been released, it would only die fast and decimate a lot of friendlys in the process. If the clue eating average potato want to spam torps everywhere, he just needs to wait for Benham getting sold. Is the Benham actually going to be sold then? btw, I just subscribed to your YT channel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #17 Posted August 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Uglesett said: Considering all the weird they're stuffing into the game, and with submarines making their way in as well... I mean, why the hell not? Might as well add the Courageous class Battlecruisers and the Habbakuk while they're at it. Stop saying subs are getting into the game. Subs will be tested. People will realize how crap they are and how much they kill immersion, and subs will therefore not make it into pvp. Subs getting into pve, yes. Habbakuk should be a riad boss.. I mean it should appear in a Scenario like subs where it's maybe fun to put it in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #18 Posted August 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Uglesett said: Might as well add the Courageous class Battlecruisers and the Habbakuk while they're at it. Habbakuk? So you want 2x Kaga ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #19 Posted August 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, mtm78 said: Stop saying subs are getting into the game. Subs will be tested. People will realize how crap they are and how much they kill immersion, and subs will therefore not make it into pvp. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #20 Posted August 28, 2019 We can stop them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,982 battles Report post #21 Posted August 28, 2019 Old Kitakami would not work in current game. Kuma hull with 4 guns, of which only three can be used at the same time, no AA and 5x4 torpedo per side. There is no way to balance this. As a ship it is worthless, as a torpedoboat it is too powerful. If would be either utterly garbage or cancerous. Kitakami was product of old time when game was more simple. Today it wouldn't work. Only way it could be returned it should be during some event like Halloween, never should be added to Random games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #22 Posted August 28, 2019 No, we already have morons in the forum post weekly that they take pleasure in torping their own team from the back line so lets not give them this ship, not that it would stand a chance in today's meta anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #23 Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said: Habbakuk? So you want 2x Kaga ship? Nah. Not just 2x. Think bigger. Spoiler (That's a real screenshot btw.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #24 Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, mtm78 said: Stop saying subs are getting into the game. Subs will be tested. People will realize how crap they are and how much they kill immersion, and subs will therefore not make it into pvp. You certainly regained a lot of optimism in your absence. Look at you thinking WG will consider our opinion on them matters whatsoever. They will be in pvp, there's not a single doubt about that. The fact alone that nobody would pay €40 for a premium sub just to take it out in pve, is reason enough to be sure of that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T2FTW] DanottiTR Beta Tester 241 posts 19,509 battles Report post #25 Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Uglesett said: Considering all the weird they're stuffing into the game, and with submarines making their way in as well... I mean, why the hell not? Might as well add the Courageous class Battlecruisers and the Habbakuk while they're at it. exactly my point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
