Smolensk too OP

[Corocotta15]

That's all. This ship is too OP in my humble opinion. What do you think?

[principat121]

16 minutes ago, Corocotta15 said:

What do you think?

That we do not need another thread discussing this topic! 

[Corocotta15]

Sorry, I didnt find it. Close it then. No problem.

[KillStealBoss]

I think there are 3 threads about Smolensk, no need 4th one.

@Excavatus

[Garlic_of_Terror]

Smolensk is to op, he can burn everything, just have to be nerfed

[Paul_Ward_2017]

16 hours ago, principat121 said:

That we do not need another thread discussing this topic! 

What other threads?

[LadyJess]

16 hours ago, Corocotta15 said:

That's all. This ship is too OP in my humble opinion. What do you think?

Ship is very OP and needs to be removed or Nerfed to a 10 sec reload. This is nothing more than Pure Russian bias on a paper ship.

[Corocotta15]

No specific thread in this line. No specific in gameplay or general. Just one about IFHE and another with Colbert and Smolensk, talking about other questions. Is what I saw. So, I dont know where's the problem with this thread, but is ok. As I said, it can be closed when the moderators want.

[Excavatus]

We didn't have a smolensk topic in Cruisers..

So, lets have it :) let people vent when they get out of a fiery shower :)

 

PS: I love smolensk... yeah a very very nasty ship as an enemy, but they really die fast, even in their smoke..

[Corocotta15]

3 horas antes, Excavatus dijo:

We didn't have a smolensk topic in Cruisers..

So, lets have it :) let people vent when they get out of a fiery shower :)

 

PS: I love smolensk... yeah a very very nasty ship as an enemy, but they really die fast, even in their smoke..

Thank you. And normal that you love your Smolensk :)

[Excavatus]

23 minutes ago, Corocotta15 said:

Thank you. And normal that you love your Smolensk :)

Yeah the thing is.. when you go against a smolensk... you get really frustrated..
most of the smols have 16km range.. but you need to act accordingly..
ıf you play into her strenghts she will tear you apart..

 

But Smolenks is usually one shot.. like colbert..

I think people making the same mistake they always do, they don't change strategy or playstyle.. according to the opponent they have at that given moment..

 

[ironhammer500]

1 hour ago, Excavatus said:

Yeah the thing is.. when you go against a smolensk... you get really frustrated..
most of the smols have 16km range.. but you need to act accordingly..
ıf you play into her strenghts she will tear you apart..

 

But Smolenks is usually one shot.. like colbert..

I think people making the same mistake they always do, they don't change strategy or playstyle.. according to the opponent they have at that given moment..

 

I disagree the combo of smoke and small citadel plus light armour all around makes it a very easy ship for dodge damage broadside same with colbert its insane rudder shift and turn makes it dodge shells incredibly well. They also take very little HE damage from smaller caliber shells like 203mm HE which also makes them OP.

 

They are OP vs Heavy cruiser i think even Worcester might stuggle.

[Alfa_Tau]

1 hour ago, Excavatus said:

But Smolenks is usually one shot.. like colbert..

But Colbert doesn't have smoke.. so it can be surprised in the open-

One question: WG removed from the shop Kutuzov as it was considered too strong. But Smolensk seem to be even stronger, so why to release it in its present state? 

[ironhammer500]

5 minutes ago, Alfa_Tau said:

But Colbert doesn't have smoke.. so it can be surprised in the open-

One question: WG removed from the shop Kutuzov as it was considered too strong. But Smolensk seem to be even stronger, so why to release it in its present state? 

Colbert has good firing arcs so it can be played like a cleveland. Smolesk doesnt so it needs more open water dakka but yea your right.

[Excavatus]

6 minutes ago, Alfa_Tau said:

But Colbert doesn't have smoke.. so it can be surprised in the open-

One question: WG removed from the shop Kutuzov as it was considered too strong. But Smolensk seem to be even stronger, so why to release it in its present state? 

Smol is not stronger than the kutu..

Smolensk have 13.8 base firing range at tier 10,

Smol can have 19km range If you invest range module and AFT, but with non russian arcs it is useless..

most people use it with 16km range..

Kutu have 19km range.. at tier 8... which go against ships only BBs can have that range at that tier..

Kutu have 152mm guns.. smol has 130.. lets add kutu seing less armored targets.. this is huge

 

Smol has 32.400 HP at tier 10, kutu have 40.700 at tier 8

Smol turns and accelerates/decelerates like a floting cinder brick.. because of 8.2sec rudder shift time.. kutu has 6.5

 

So.. smolensk is not a better kutuzov,

If you ask me, smolensk tier for tier, cannot get even close to kutuzov..

If we'd have a tier 10 kutuzov, that would step on smolensk every time it goes against it..

 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

19 minutes ago, ironhammer500 said:

They are OP vs Heavy cruiser i think even Worcester might stuggle.

laughs in LU Hindenburg

 

Is it finally her time to shine? Are we finally relevant to deal with Kremlin deck and Smolensk spam?

[Excavatus]

Colbert and smolensk are actually very effective against CLs and DDs..

Especially even IFHE colbert doesn't like to go against BBs, even more when they bow tank..

%80 of your shots will go shatterd..

If they are saturated completely.. that means even with IFHE, you cannot damage them at all.. almost..

 

On the other hand, Hindi, Henri, Desmo zao.... they rip them open very very easily..

[ironhammer500]

10 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

Colbert and smolensk are actually very effective against CLs and DDs..

Especially even IFHE colbert doesn't like to go against BBs, even more when they bow tank..

%80 of your shots will go shatterd..

If they are saturated completely.. that means even with IFHE, you cannot damage them at all.. almost..

 

On the other hand, Hindi, Henri, Desmo zao.... they rip them open very very easily..

This is a lie DM will always lose in a DPM fight seen a colbert beat a DM problem is the DM can not overmatch the armour so it has to use HE which it loses out in the dpm.

[Excavatus]

 

2 minutes ago, ironhammer500 said:

This is a lie DM will always lose in a DPM fight seen a colbert beat a DM problem is the DM can not overmatch the armour so it has to use HE which it loses out in the dpm.

you are forgetting that, they cannot even give even a slight angle to shoot at to that DM :)

DM has a massive HP pool when you compare her to them.. DM has 203mm

When things start to saturate, they will only have to rely on fires itself..

If the DM captain knows what he is doing.. I say they, a colbert or Smol has not chance one vs one..

[Alfa_Tau]

30 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

So.. smolensk is not a better kutuzov,

If you ask me, smolensk tier for tier, cannot get even close to kutuzov..

If we'd have a tier 10 kutuzov, that would step on smolensk every time it goes against it..

OK thanks for your explanation. 

[KillStealBoss]

16 minutes ago, ironhammer500 said:

This is a lie DM will always lose in a DPM fight seen a colbert beat a DM problem is the DM can not overmatch the armour so it has to use HE which it loses out in the dpm.

This will change with IFHE changes btw . DM well be immune to them 

 

[ironhammer500]

11 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

This will change with IFHE changes btw . DM well be immune to them 

 

Well maybe delay the ships until the IFHE rework.

[KillStealBoss]

7 minutes ago, ironhammer500 said:

Well maybe delay the ships until the IFHE rework.

But Idk whats the problem them, especially if we have a Worcester in game that can pen BBs which those 2 can’t. 

[Cyclops_]

On 8/26/2019 at 10:53 AM, Excavatus said:

 

 

But Smolenks is usually one shot.. like colbert..

I think people making the same mistake they always do, they don't change strategy or playstyle.. according to the opponent they have at that given moment..

 

Totally correct, catch it out of smoke  and it is history

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

On 8/24/2019 at 11:19 PM, Corocotta15 said:

This ship is too OP

Too OP? Meaning "OP" alone would be okay?