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How do you actually play a Battleship?

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Right,

How do you play a battleship on this game?

Because as far I can tell you can either stay at the back like a little [edited] and not support your team but get some decent damage numbers and points on the board at the end of the match.

By doing this then, the team cries endless because you aren't supporting them.

Or, you can push with the team to then get rained on by invisible HE [edited], the flank then falls apart and you're left by yourself to get focused down by the opposing team and then you cry endlessly to the rest of your team because they haven't supported you.

 

I really don't get it, what the hell am I supposed to do?!?!!?!

 

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Learning how to play in low/mid-tiers would be a good thing for starters.

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Lean2play ?

Because if you really want to sit back take a long range cruiser, but if you really want to play a BB ask you a simple question.

If i don't tank (because reason) for the team, who will be ?

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Really depends on the BB.

 

In general:

  • I have no real issues with HE spamming ships. The faster they can spam those shells the squishier they usually are. A few shells in their direction can bring a world of hurt to them. Prioritze them but not to the extend that you ignore better targets presenting themself to you.
  • Fire is a distraction. A single fire, maybe even two of them, don't necessarily need to be extinguished. All fire damage can be repaired.
  • Sitting behind everyone else is just as wrong as sitting right in the open at the very front where the whole enemy team can focus you. You'll need to find a position where cou can deal damage to a few select targets while most of the enemy team can't hurt you. That's usually near (not behind) an island. If you do it right you are angled towards your enemies for maximum armor effect and can deal with them one by one.
  • If you are in the open: Stay mobile. Your ship will have a hard time changing position once it stopped. A stopped BB in open water is a really easy target seen from afar.
  • Wiggle your tail when shot at. Don't drive in a straight direction. Even when going reverse. Always maneuver a bit. But don't become predictable while doing so.
  • Change directions every once in a while. Driving in a straight line will make you a perfect torpedo target.
  • If you feel you need to break away for repairs do so. If you keep pushing while the enemy focuses you down, you'll end up sleeping with the fishes really fast. Better risk turning around your ships between two salvos of the enemies big guns and run. Heal up and get back into the fight.
  • Between two salvos you have a lot of time in a BB. Check the minimap. Look around. See if you can find better targets or a better position. Look where you are needed.
  • Don't chase squirrels. A lone low health ship might look like an easy kill. But if it is dragging you halfway around the map, it is preventing you from being in a position that actually matters. Worse if others hunt that ship with you.
  • Don't make detours. On some maps there are even signs that you should not go into an area with a BB. The reason for that is that you'll be sitting useless behind some large islands, far away from the real battle, for several minutes if the enemy decides to not engange you in those far away regions.

Most of that can be applied to any ship, not just BBs.

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Some ships, like miss georgia and jean bart are better at flanking and opportunity than most bb’s some like the german and russian bb’s are better suited for bow tanking or tanking in general.

 

with bb’s you need to know when to push when to hold back etc. etc.

 

positioning is vital in this game and so is reading the map. Its like how some heavy tanks in world of tanks are useless at tanking and have better roles to contribute too (although armour works better in that game and more reliably).

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Depends on the bb, as others said though I haven't read everything. But you need to learn the maps and have a solid plan on where to push or not. You are gonna get focused in games that comes with the ship but if you handle it smart it won't bother you. I usually try to have one flank covered by something solid and an exit plan if I get cornered. Focus on the dangerous ships first to get them out of the game and retreat if the situation turns for the worse. Some games you will get frustrated a lot but you can be frustrating to the enemy team too, I try to make them sick of me in each game even if uptiered, I get downvotes and sometimes I fail miserably but making them bleed to dislodge me is my biggest satisfaction in a bb. In the end it depends on what style you prefer or ship. And play high tier games, low tiers don't give the full picture of the kind of unicums you will face. There are HE spam masters lurking there, position gurus, non stop back and forth savants, CV gods like one of the above, silent assassins etc

You need to face em all to learn what to do and how to frustrate them. It is a slow process and I wish you the best of luck :fish_cute_2:

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1 hour ago, JarrusJenkins said:

I really don't get it, what the hell am I supposed to do?!?!!?!

Others have covered off the 'how to BB' thing; my additional suggestion would be to play other classes too, if you haven't already - that'll give you a sense of their strengths/weaknesses, and what they're trying to do to you.

 

For example, playing torpedo-heavy DDs will rapidly demonstrate how easy it is a lot of the time for an awake BB to evade torps; playing cruisers illustrates that they tend to explode if a BB gets sight of their citadel; apply those learnings to your BB play, and so on.

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31 minutes ago, JarrusJenkins said:

thanks for the advise lads and ladies.

 

Psst :-

 

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So,

Start ar T3, and do not move to T4 until you have played 200 games at T3,  then do not move to T5 until you have played 200 games at T4, blar blar blar

 

Build your Commander.

 

T3 T4 are torpedo Hell, so pick a BB with AA and make its rudder shift as quick as possible

 

Pick 1 line to Explore, one that YOU LIKE TO PLAY

 

more if you want it

 

Oh and stay away from Co-Op, all thats going to tech you is bad habits IMHO

 

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My General American BB build above T5 under T5 I thake Vigilance over basics of servivability 

 

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To be fair, WG have been rather nice to American BB's lately so I have been considering binning off RN for a while until they sort them out.

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4 minutes ago, JarrusJenkins said:

To be fair, WG have been rather nice to American BB's lately so I have been considering binning off RN for a while until they sort them out.

 

I sold all mine and only kept Fiji, Oh and Lightning 

 

I use to love Mino and Conqueror 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SmashUrr said:

I think this helped a lot of WOWS Players,

 

 

 

 

thank you a lot.

 

I learn a lot with this video, I know enough now.

i'll drop my sorry [edited]Wyoming and go strait to t10 with the Georgia I just bought.:Smile_teethhappy:

 

wanna be in a division with me? I went as far as the green egg., at least I will now what a green ship  look like :Smile_smile:

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200 game at T3/4, but why ?

For me people really start to learn how to play this game at T5...

 

But yeah, like other already said, try to play something else than BB.

Actually you are a main BB (#99%) and you just started to grind for Lion (17 games).

 

Look like you skipped Monarch and now you look like to struggle.

Or maybe it's team fault, but most of the time it's not. :Smile-_tongue:

 

So did you ask yourself, what did you do wrong during your last game ? How to improve ? Is your captain build correct for the ship ?

 

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16 minutes ago, Lebedjev said:

200 game at T3/4, but why ?

For me people really start to learn how to play this game at T5...

 

But yeah, like other already said, try to play something else than BB.

Actually you are a main BB (#99%) and you just started to grind for Lion (17 games).

 

Look like you skipped Monarch and now you look like to struggle.

Or maybe it's team fault, but most of the time it's not. :Smile-_tongue:

 

So did you ask yourself, what did you do wrong during your last game ? How to improve ? Is your captain build correct for the ship ?

 

Monarch is a broken ship, by far the worst BB at its tier... so I binned it off...simples.

I've been playing more with Warspite lately though

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These days?

Look at Matchmaking Monitor, try to guesstimate which DD is the least likely to screw up, and position behind that one if at all possible.

I used to enjoy playing DDs though never being really good at most of them, but these days I mostly play most of them out of pure self defense, because you're just so dependent on them.

The other day I had a really super Massachusetts game when announcing in chat right at the start, either on North  or Northern lights, that I was going to push B just to annoy people. That got a Shima player on our team to screen me the whole game, never typing a word. Just screening, spotting, torping, smoking in a single fluid chain of motions, never missing a beat while benefitting effortlessly from the two Gearings strapped to my ship. A super rare exception.

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I think you could post a few replays. And you shouldnt focus on higher tiers yet, you only have 500 battles played. Thats not nearly enough to get the basics. Try Cruisers and DDs aswell. It will teach you how to play BBs. If you play Cruisers, you know what it feels like if all your BBs sit in the back, or if you play DD you will see when a BB is overextended and you can easily torp it.

 

Looking at your stats, you did ok in Orion. But Orion is also extremely strong for its tier. Play more T5-7, try to be more effective there. You dont have much business in T8+ games. And you need to analyze your mistakes afterwards. If you died early, why did it happen? If you didnt accomplish much, maybe you could have been more effective?

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4 hours ago, JarrusJenkins said:

I really don't get it, what the hell am I supposed to do?!?!!?!

 

simple, learn your tanking limits with each BB like any other tank class, learn positioning to project threat...and learn to recognize the moment (there always is one) when you can no longer win unless you make a play (push, change position - it doesn't have to be keep pushing untill death). 

 

essentially, practice surviving under fire to break of and go unspotted, then learn to break off earlier as is suitable depending on each engagement.

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Drunk post incoming:

 

As with all classes, just play to win.

 

Someone has to hold that flank and delay the enemy advance as long as possible?

 

You know you will probably die miserably? You won't do much damage? Only one or two other ships coming with you?

 

Go there regardless, because if you don't, the enemy can crossfire at the other flank and it's game over.

 

Thats how you play a BB: Take some for the team, because nobody can tank better than you.

 

The other battles, where you can steamroll everything or inflict citadels left and right while barely moving from the spawn are just a bonus that happens, because someone else from your team is playing to win this round.

 

If you think that farming damage from the third line wins battles, play something like the Yoshino or Zao and see how much you can influence a match.

 

Play to win, not for yourself, and good things will happen.

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This might be old but the content is still applicable -> 

 

Ships change, meta changes with it, but basics don’t change. Well unless the gamedesign was actually still in alpha when the game was released 🤪

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8 hours ago, JarrusJenkins said:

Monarch is a broken ship, by far the worst BB at its tier... so I binned it off...simples.

I've been playing more with Warspite lately though

Oh I don't know, have you tried the Vanguard?

 

Whatever that ship has going for it I do not know, certainly yet to find it,at least Monarch has a spotter, would be lovely to have a Brt BB with mega guns, Massa secondaries a spotter and radar, but alas, that is just wet dreaming.

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8 hours ago, Lebedjev said:

200 game at T3/4, but why ?

For me people really start to learn how to play this game at T5...

 

Because hopefully it teaches a player , how to manage your battle ships servivability ( not to panic when flooding or on fire etc ), and gives a player an incite into advanced battleship positioning techniques under real time battle conditions ( no co-op )   using your map tools to help you with map awareness, allowing a player to manage there game economy with in a less expensive game. 

 

It also gives a player an incite to the " line of battleships " that suits there " game play " with in the lines unique perceived properties, where by they do not use a lot of there games money on higher tier ships. ( how not to waist money )    

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9 hours ago, JarrusJenkins said:

Monarch is a broken ship, by far the worst BB at its tier... so I binned it off...simples.

I've been playing more with Warspite lately though

Its a long time since I played a Monarch I feel a Monarch Challenge on The Horizon 

 

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11 Mill thats 500 consumables Not sure I am that interested 

 

 

 

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I'm going slightly off topic now.

How do we chose a BB while being in another ship?

two games as an example.

I was in one of my "old meta" cruisers vs two cvs. At the start of the game I went off my way to be near a Massa "AMG", the only ship in my team with good AA...I think.

At first all went well but in the end I cannot followed him where he went , Cleary he wanted to brawl.

second game I had a Gneisenau, a new Mexico and a Texas (I think), my first pick would be Gneisenau or New Mexico, but both of them were in the opposite flank, so I went (slowly crawling ) at 17 knots with the third one.

In the way I protected him from a dd with my specialized dd hunter cruiser (IFHE, sonar and RPF), that dd went from full to almost zero in an instant.

I ambushed a Nagato, expecting that BB to help me (he did nothing), so half of my ship was gone.

then that BB blew up in front of my eyes probable because he was giving broadside to the red New Mexico and to a red Graf Spee.

And I stood there, without my AA escort, half a ship, all my work for nothing.

In the end both of the BB were in the top of the board, and my AA escort at the bottom.

How do we chose a BB?

 

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