Update 0.8.7: French Destroyers – Part 2

[The_EURL_Guy]

The release of French destroyers from early access, the Research Bureau, a unique French Commander, and an improved matchmaker!

Read it on the portal

[wot_2016_gunner]

I only have one question, will the Reworked consumables come with this update?

[ColonelPete]

You decided to go for the regrind, despite the feedback from the players. 

[Episparh]

Smolensk <3

[Klopirat]

patch notes:

 

full guide:

 

so which end date is correct ?

[Episparh]

22 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

I only have one question, will the Reworked consumables come with this update?

@The_EURL_Guy can clarify that. 

[Zeusmester]

Still waiting for the Viribus Unitis.

 

[gnist0s]

 

WG dont give a [edited] about what the players say and have been diskussed in the dedicated thread.

 

Link to dedicated thread:

 

 

[edited] WG for being so ignorant        

 

 

 

 

Edited due to rule violation. Please follow the forum rules.

[Last_Rites]

Where is Friesland?

[Episparh]

2 hours ago, gnist0s said:

 

WG dont give a [edited] about what the players say and have been diskussed in the dedicated thread.

 

 

[edited] You WG for being so ignorant        

You should be happy that they removed ship buffs. 

 

Now RB is optional, not mandatory. 

[Hanse77SWE]

2 minutes ago, Last_Rites said:

Where is Friesland?

This might be a hint....

[Episparh]

1 minute ago, Last_Rites said:

Where is Friesland?

Soon ™

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/community/they-may-take-our-stroopwafel-but-theyll-never-take-our-friesland/

 

 

[Last_Rites]

2 minutes ago, Hanse77SWE said:

This might be a hint....

Not a confirmation though is it.

[Egoleter]

28 minutes ago, Episparh said:

@The_EURL_Guy can clarify that. 

Spoiler

 

 

I still don't understand how everyone having the same consumables is somehow balancing the initial NTC concept. There never was any logic behind that argument.

And now they use that illogical argument again to remove a feature many of us actually wanted to see?

@Episparh Do you have a link to that post?

 

@Crysantos @MrConway @Tanatoy

I know you are at Gamescom currently but once you come back, this really needs an explanation. Your company currently seems so far detached from the community that keeps it alive I'd call it a joke if it were not so sad.

[Hanse77SWE]

2 minutes ago, Last_Rites said:

Not a confirmation though is it.

No, but it's the best WG can do right now it seems. Keep your pants on.

[Last_Rites]

1 minute ago, Hanse77SWE said:

No, but it's the best WG can do right now it seems. Keep your pants on.

It was tested alongside the much needed T10 version of a flint and the now overpriced somers, don't see why it should not be released with this patch. Ergo the question.

[Hogger4169]

As we say in Greece....

 

Στου κουφου την πορτα οσο θελεις βροντα…   On deaf man's door knock knock for as long as you can!!!! (he will not listen)

 

Have fun with this "new feature"....

Ohio here I come...   

[Contrador]

Can someone explain to me the new chat update, will i be able now to switch off the chat [what people are writing], but see the ping commands ? As now when i switch off the chat, it doesnt show anything. 

 

 

[Blinztrin]

So you are nerfing DFAA to a point it makes your AA worse. What are you doing anymore WG? If you can't balance CV, you should consider removing them from a game. 

 

[Episparh]

35 minutes ago, Egoleter said:

@Episparh Do you have a link to that post?

No, I got this screenshot from KoTS discord. That's why I said that @The_EURL_Guy can clarify it. 

[Tanatoy]

1 hour ago, Egoleter said:

 

I still don't understand how everyone having the same consumables is somehow balancing the initial NTC concept. There never was any logic behind that argument.

And now they use that illogical argument again to remove a feature many of us actually wanted to see?

@Episparh Do you have a link to that post?

 

@Crysantos @MrConway @Tanatoy

I know you are at Gamescom currently but once you come back, this really needs an explanation. Your company currently seems so far detached from the community that keeps it alive I'd call it a joke if it were not so sad.

Hi,

 

The answer by EarlGrey is simply put and probably explain better why we don't have the free consumables with the Research Bureau.

 

As the Colbert so far won't be as much as a game changer than the NTC buffs on the ships could have been, we prefer to not put this feature in, and rather focus on  providing several missions to help with the grind in XP and credits.

 

Remember that Colbert is the perfect definition of a "glass-canon". It can be a really good ship in the hands of an experienced captain (the kind of captain for with the Research Bureau is made), but she almost have no armor. Still, it's a really fun ship to play with, but you can't make more than 2 mistakes in a single game with her ^^ 

[Egoleter]

43 minutes ago, Tanatoy said:

Hi,

 

The answer by EarlGrey is simply put and probably explain better why we don't have the free consumables with the Research Bureau.

 

As the Colbert so far won't be as much as a game changer than the NTC buffs on the ships could have been, we prefer to not put this feature in, and rather focus on the providing several missions to help with the grind in XP and credits.

 

Remember that Colbert is the perfect definition of a "glass-canon". It can be a really good ship in the hands of an experienced captain (the kind of captain for with the Research Bureau is made), but she almost have no armor. Still, it's a really fun ship to play with, but you can't make more than 2 mistakes in a single game with her ^^ 

 

I need a confused smiley. Because that's how I feel right now. It still doesn't make any sense.

 

They never were a balancing factor to the NTC buffs. If everyone had them then the buffed ships would have them too. Still a clear advantage for the buffed ship.

1 + 1 = 2

As simple as this math equation was the balance equation. While everyone was a 1 if everyone had the same consumables, the ones with the buffs (another 1) would have been a 2.

You could argue that those without the premium consumables are zeros. That's why we welcomed the change to everyone having the same consumable. It would have actually created balance. 1 = 1

And now you torped it all again.

 

Even if I look at the argument of the economic burden that you made in the first concept post about it, which didn't change at all, it makes no sense. The economic burden for the players using the RB is still there. As large as ever.

 

So I'm sorry to tell you that I'm still missing any logic from your reply. The Colbert wasn't even a topic I asked about.

[Tanatoy]

I'll note the confused smiley suggestion for the next feature of the forum ^^.

 

The Colbert is, I believe, necessary in the answer, has it's the '"now",  the buff ships were the "past". 

 

Has the free consumables were meant to lower the gap between new and veterans players in the context of the NTC system with direct combat buff. As the system has been completely redesigned, this change was put on hold, as it doesn't fit the concept, as this gap, that could have been created by those combat buff won't be here.  

[Vbeest]

56 minutes ago, Blinztrin said:

So you are nerfing DFAA to a point it makes your AA worse. What are you doing anymore WG? If you can't balance CV, you should consider removing them from a game. 

 

 

Nerfing? Has anything changed vs. the test server? Because there AA was ridicolously powerful. To the point that you will likely stop seing CVs in game now at all...

[CAP98100]

Please Stop releasing early acces  ships "by chance" That is totally unfair! I am doing stuff for 4 (anykind what can drop a ship) even container, maybe reciving none, maybe all... How would you explain this fairness if someone gets 4 tech tree ships (counting all the credits, XP, commander retraining xp, time spent), and someone none, doing exactly the same mission?

Also doing this Research Bureau  thingy's main goal to introduce players to the lower tiers, what was removed by the early access mid-high tier ships...