Research Bureau: New Rewards for Leveling Up

[T3ddyBear]

How can something that is so universally derided by the playing community be happening, it is pretty clear now this whole thing is just an attempt to get players to buy gold and convert xp to free xp to skip the whole regrind process.

 

This whole "not enough players play low and mid tiers" cry from WG is bollox, yet again we have a new line released (French DD's) and WG are allowing people to skip up to tier9, they are the architects of the problem but it's the player base that has to "fix" it by spending their dubloons, it truly is a farcical situation we find ourselves in.

 

I knew WG was greedy but to become so transparent about it just beggars belief.

 

Ohwell WOW Classic is released in a couple of weeks, at least Blizzard are listening to their playerbase,.

 

TB.

[Alfa_Tau]

57 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Most likely for 1.5 mln (cause T10).

Yes I think you are right.  But perhaps for Xmas Santa Claus will bring us a discount?

[Egoleter]

1 hour ago, GunnyL said:

This surely is so BAD that its a cover for something else that is only HALF as bad, that we will WELCOME with open arms as a result of dropping this!

No. Sorry.

This is already the "half as bad" version.

[RnGg0tya]

3 minutes ago, Egoleter said:

No. Sorry.

This is already the "half as bad" version.

If this truly is the half as Bad version..  

Then what is the real whole Bad Version??

I think its time to abandon ship before its to late... 

[Hogger4169]

Wargaming, you expect to regrind for this award?

And the promise (that you somesomesomesomesometimes keep) of a new ship???

Ohio seems to be a monster and you ask me to reset us bb line for a ship that it will be added sometime in a patch?

Or to buy doubloons to gain free xp?

 

With the majority of your playerbase say no to this feature you still publish it in the near future GAMBLING that in the start we will nag and in the end we will participate....

Instead trying to make the game more appealing for new players to join the WOWS you try to drain the "cow"...

 

PATHETIC "STRATEGY"!!!

 

[BattleshipGunner]

This is horrible, I'm only at t6 but regrinding 5 lines to tier 10 sounds like a lot of effort.

 

From this forum alone I have noticed lots of the community don't want this update

 

This research bureau seems like a waste of time since lots of the community probably won't use it.

[Lakaedemonios]

I think that there is a very stubborn man behind the big desk in WG. When they have an idea they dont drop it whatever we say.

Look at CV rework; when they make a change that is wrong, what they do? they drop it? no. they make another change to strait a bit the wrong turn. AND again another change to strait the last change, because is not working as expected! and again... they have enter a vicious cycle and they dont understand it.

Sometimes is VERY wise to do 1-2 steps back and choose a different approach to the problem. Lateral thinking is called. This kind of thinking is very rare, but is paying off.

WG needs badly a person like Steven Paul Jobs.

[UltraRos]

4 hours ago, pierate said:

it wouldnt be so bad if you got the full amount you paid when you reset a line.but giving 50% is just taking the p#@s.all modules should be kept or fully refunded, same goes for the ships.this just seems like a huge insult to even try to implement such a cheeky cash grab,ive got 5 tx BBs that cost 20m each so why would i sell them for 10? and then after that regrind and have to buy them back at full price never mind having to grind some of the ships i hated the 1st time round lol???? wow that really is a joke but not a funny one.this will be put upon us at some point without the choice thats my prediction. we will see

Exactly, and what about the tier 6 7 8 and 9 you also need to buy back, (i try to collect all ships mid and high tier)

If i did the math correctly this joke would cost at least 78,019,500 credits (with clanbuilding -15% to buy researchable ships)

 

if you spend 2 seasons and have at least 5 tier 10 in port you can achieve it by resetting 3 lines only (1st reset in a season will give double the RP?)

I think the cheapest branch is the Grozovoi branch so i did the math with that branch.

 

Gnevny         2,990,000

    hull B                                          860,000
    torps B                                      480,000
    GFCS B                                     580,000

Minsk             5,500,000
    hull B                                      1,400,000
    torps B                                      800,000
    GFCS B                                 1.000,000

Ognevoi         9,000,000
    guns B                                   1,200,000
    hull B                                      2,400,000
    GFCS B                                  1,700,000

Udaloi          13,000,000
    hull B                                      3,200,000
    torps B                                   1,500,000
    GFCS B                                  1,100,000

Grozevoi     18,000,000
    torps B                                     2,200,000

                                               +                           +

                        47,990,000      18,420,000

 

                       47,990,000  + 18,420,000   =   66,410,000 x 3 = 199,230,000 /2 = 99,615,000  (withouth clanbuilding)

       -15 %     40,791,500  + 18,420,000   =   59,211,500 x 3 = 177,634,500 - 99,615,000 = 78,019,500 (with clanbuilding)

(99,615000 = 50% refund in credits for selling ships and modules)

[KillStealBoss]

2 hours ago, BattleshipGunner said:

This is horrible, I'm only at t6 but regrinding 5 lines to tier 10 sounds like a lot of effort.

 

From this forum alone I have noticed lots of the community don't want this update

 

This research bureau seems like a waste of time since lots of the community probably won't use it.

It's 4 lines cause you get a 10k point free .... If you have 5 T10 ships.

[KillStealBoss]

21 minutes ago, UltraRos said:

Exactly, and what about the tier 6 7 8 and 9 you also need to buy back, (i try to collect all ships mid and high tier)

If i did the math correctly this joke would cost at least 78,019,500 credits (with clanbuilding -15% to buy researchable ships)

 

if you spend 2 seasons and have at least 5 tier 10 in port you can achieve it by resetting 3 lines only (1st reset in a season will give double the RP?)

I think the cheapest branch is the Grozovoi branch so i did the math with that branch.

 

Gnevny         2,990,000

    hull B                                          860,000
    torps B                                      480,000
    GFCS B                                     580,000

Minsk             5,500,000
    hull B                                      1,400,000
    torps B                                      800,000
    GFCS B                                 1.000,000

Ognevoi         9,000,000
    guns B                                   1,200,000
    hull B                                      2,400,000
    GFCS B                                  1,700,000

Udaloi          13,000,000
    hull B                                      3,200,000
    torps B                                   1,500,000
    GFCS B                                  1,100,000

Grozevoi     18,000,000
    torps B                                     2,200,000

                                               +                           +

                        47,990,000      18,420,000

 

                       47,990,000  + 18,420,000   =   66,410,000 x 3 = 199,230,000 /2 = 99,615,000  (withouth clanbuilding)

       -15 %     40,791,500  + 18,420,000   =   59,211,500 x 3 = 177,634,500 - 99,615,000 = 78,019,500 (with clanbuilding)

(99,615000 = 50% refund in credits for selling ships and modules)

I'll tell you something. I have 4x more now. 

[surfer_gr]

really wg pls convince me lol this is worth it ahahahah what a joke lols!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

52 19 point captains

 

 

 

 

[Spunyarn]

8 hours ago, The_Tipsy said:

My main query is:

The statement says that on reset, all of the modules will be automatically sold for half price.

 

WHAT ABOUT THE LEGENDARY MODULES? They are a massive grind, and require a complete change in play style. Does this mean we will have to regrind the legendary modules? I can find no further details on the release.

 

Those are dismounted and put in your inventory. 

 

Though I do normally refer to the "upgrades"  as "modules" myself, and I do think the names are the wrong way around, the Modules are the things like the B-Hull or better engines that you research on the ship with the ship XP (which seems more like an upgrade) and the Upgrades are the things you buy, or in the case of the legendaries grind for, and put in the slots (which seems a modular design).

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/research-bureau/

Quote

• When a branch is reset, any research performed on it will be reversed, and the ships and modules will be sold for half their cost.
• Upgrades will be demounted free of charge and transferred to your Inventory, Commanders will be sent to the Reserve without losing their specialization, and all XP earned will be transferred to the first ship of the branch.

 

[Egoleter]

5 hours ago, RnGg0tya said:

If this truly is the half as Bad version..  

Then what is the real whole Bad Version??

I think its time to abandon ship before its to late... 

The original version would not have given a premium ship at the end but massive buffs to a single ship of your selection.

 

Read it and weep ...

Spoiler

On 7/3/2019 at 4:48 PM, Tanatoy said:

1.Naval Training Center

 

It is no secret that the framework of our game is based on the progress from tier to tier and reaching the top of the branch - the tier X ship. At the same time, events such as "snowflakes" for the New Year showed that veteran players are interested in playing different ships of different tiers, however, the game does not sufficiently encourage it.

 

We are glad to present to you a new part of the game - Naval Training Center. Now you can strengthen the ship from tier VI+ (absolutely any - premium, ARP, obtained for coal or acquired for free experience).  Improvements are sequential, not selective. This means you first have to apply a level 1 upgrade to a ship before you can apply level 2 etc

 

 

However this requires a special resource that can be only be obtained by "resetting progress" of a fully researched branch of the nation and experiencing it again from tier I. In a special window, with one click, you can sell all the ships of the branch according to the standard rules and cancel their research. Upgrades, signals, flags, camouflage will be removed/demounted and sent to the Inventory, commanders retain specialization and sent to the Reserve, and the experience gained on the ships will be transferred to the ship tier I. You can activate 'Naval Training Center' if you have at least two researchable tier X ships.

 

 

Through 're-researching', buying and winning the first battle in ships of a chosen branch, you will receive a new special resource that can be used to improve the ship of tier VI - X. Part of the resources will be tied to the nation and it can be used to improve the ships in it, and the other - to work on the principle of free experience and it can be spent on any ships, even those that do not have a branch of the researchable ships.

Please note that the values below may change based on test results!

 

 

                                                                                                         Battleships

Level	1	2	3
Name	Survivability	Main and Auxiliary Armaments	Consumable
Bonus	+15% to hit points	-10% to size of the dispersion ellipse +10% to secondary armament firing range +10% to secondary armament accuracy	-10% to reload time of all consumables +40% to action time of Damage Control Party +1 charge of all consumables

 

 

                                                                                                         Cruisers

Level	1	2	3
Name	Survivability	Main and Auxiliary Armaments	Consumable
Bonus	+10% to hit points -20% to rudder shift time	-15% to size of the dispersion ellipse +10% to torpedo range +10% to maximum damage of torpedo	-15% to reload time of consumables +1 charge of all consumables

 

 

 

                                                                                                         Destroyers

Level	1	2	3
Name	Survivability	Main and Auxiliary Armaments	Main Armaments
Bonus	+10% to hit points -10% to reload time of consumables -20% to rudder shift time -50% to the steering gears repair time -50% to engine repair time	-10% to reload time torpedo tubes -10% to reload time main battery	+10% to maximum damage of torpedo +2% to chance of causing a fire

 

 

In one season, you can reset progress in a limited number of branches with an additional restriction on the nation. The season itself lasts for a few months. To achieve 3 levels of improvements/bonuses for one ship, a player will be required to participate in several seasons and the passing of the branches within the nation multiple times.

 

 

Let's look at an example in which you want to earn the first level of bonuses for your favorite ship. The numbers in this example are conditional.

• Let's say you chose a Minotaur cruiser. 
• To obtain the first level requires 10 units of resources for the British nation.
• You reset your progress in any (fully researched) British branch, for example, destroyers.
• You 're-explore' it again, from Black Swan to Daring, and on the way earn 12 units of resources for the British nation and 2 units of "free" resources.
• You spend 10 units of resources for the British nation to unlock the level 1 upgrade on Minotaur. To improve Minotaur to level 2, you should have 20 units of these resources.

 

 

Alternatively, you may choose to spend the earned special resource to apply another Level 1 bonus to your as yet unimproved Tier VII RN Premium Ship 'Duke Of York'.

 

The choice is yours.

 

Please note; You CANNOT spend resources earned on one particular nation (in this example RN/UK ships) on other nations. But you WILL gain universal resources similar to Free EXP that can be spent on other nations.

If you do not have time to research an entire branch in one season, don't worry, your progress will be saved. To re-pass the branch, you will follow the same standard rules as the first time. As if it had just been released.

In clan competitive modes, the possible levels of bonus/improvement that can be used in combat will be limited. Levels that exceed this limit will be inactive and not applied in competitive battles.

Improvements and bonuses to aircraft carriers through the Naval Training Center will NOT be possible upon its introduction. Due to recent air defense changes, more time is needed to determine the optimal potential improvements for this class.

 

[matia251]

 

As long as anyone can take a T10 ship in battle with SO FEW battles, game will not get out of the downward spiral down to the ocean and more genius ideas like Research Bureau or Naval Training Center will spawn.

Respect player's investment in time and money, dont insult their intelligence by downgrading the game into a dumb high Tier brawl. Acquiring a T10 should be a privileged accomplishment not an introduction to the new player, why on earth this is happening? Why on earth you are diminishing the whole game experience?

[AdmiralJacksparo]

Grind again? Bi**h please ! I don't left with any credits to buy a new ship I have to sell all old ship and equipment to get new tier ship ( even if I wanted to keep old ship) and you want me to restart that crap again, w*f would anyone in right mind will do that ? 

[RnGg0tya]

41 minutes ago, Egoleter said:

The original version would not have given a premium ship at the end but massive buffs to a single ship of your selection.

 

Read it and weep ...

 

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Im aware, im afraid that they will make it even worse than that ..

[SqueakyDuck]

Come WG.. just don't make the new T10 premiums brokenly OP and sell them for a good amout of cash / gold and there ya go.. no  need to beat around the push this way to milk free XP conversion.

[Zemeritt]

Officials at WG certainly could be good politicians: They just don't give a damn about their customers.

 

The majority doesn't want this, still WG pushes it through. Because they think we'll use it anyways.

 

Hopefully the fall from your high horse will be painful WG.

[CTAPA_KO3A]

hi again I seem to have upset a few people... that's a shame as I said exchanging is an option sorry for those who want a NEW ship :) because I think this is just about 1 ship.not the idea of resetting your research tree its pure choice isn't it I don't have the full trees to do so either. but I still have all my ships. do I want to get upset just because I cant have one special ship this is what the world is coming to I guess and that's why its failing to many me me's the game is free to play there is no extortion maybe if everyone just came to the point that they WANT the colbert another way then say that.....

[powerverde]

1 hour ago, CTAPA_KO3A said:

hi again I seem to have upset a few people... that's a shame as I said exchanging is an option sorry for those who want a NEW ship :) because I think this is just about 1 ship.not the idea of resetting your research tree its pure choice isn't it I don't have the full trees to do so either. but I still have all my ships. do I want to get upset just because I cant have one special ship this is what the world is coming to I guess and that's why its failing to many me me's the game is free to play there is no extortion maybe if everyone just came to the point that they WANT the colbert another way then say that.....

You must have some difficulty to read. I'll try to explain, slowly:
WG asked if we would like the idea.

Players, in general, said no.

Wg changes the name, keeps the concept, and then presents it as something we all loved.
Players show, again, their despleasure with the idea.

It's not about having the ship per se, its about lieing so blatantly to us, as if we are stupid.

[msb40]

you honestly think I want to re-grind my T 10. Really and the next clan T10 season I have to play a rental because I am grinding my ship back. I don't think so.

the reward does not justify the mean. Would be nice to ask the community before pulling a stunt like that.

[Episparh]

4 hours ago, msb40 said:

you honestly think I want to re-grind my T 10. Really and the next clan T10 season I have to play a rental because I am grinding my ship back. I don't think so.

the reward does not justify the mean. Would be nice to ask the community before pulling a stunt like that.

It's optional as it rewards just ships and free xp not mandatory performance upgrades at it was initially planned. 

If you have just few T10 I strongly advise you to not mess with RB untill you have at least 10.

[anonym_j17GKWzHKZAZ]

On 8/17/2019 at 9:12 PM, Kaiser_Drache said:

The way it is presented to us might be...... questionable, but what did we expect? An honest ad like: "Buy more gold, convert more free xp, we need another vodka party!" Come on, we all know it better, don't we?

True Dat!

[PiXiE93]

LOOOOOOOOL....

I have 20 T10s.... 18 if you kick out Stalingrad and Salem, but still, you really think, that I am going to reset Yamato line, only to HAVE FUN WITH IZUMO, or reset Des Moines to have fun with NEW ORLEANS...

Only reason to grind this would be just to spend time, flags, camos ect.

But with how this game is going, with non-stop pumping clan battles which overlap with ranked, french missions, elite modules for tier10s ect. ect. ect.,

I think I am going to slow down and try to find other game to have fun with.

Because if You want to have everything in warships, You would litteraly have to play at least 5-7 hours at day. 

 

As much i really love and enjoy this game, I have an actuall life, and so does 97% of your playerbase who doesnt earn from streaming, comunity contributing and professional gaming.

 

[anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy]

So for around 1.250.000 free xp you can instantly unlock a NTC tier X ship without regrinding? If so: at least.