[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #1 Posted August 13, 2019 I have sent a message to WG regarding premium time.. I would be interested with the thoughts of my fellows. *edit* 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #2 Posted August 13, 2019 Pointless. WG will not change the policy regarding premium time, as it’s one of their main sources of income. Good luck tho. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #3 Posted August 13, 2019 Very quick replies. *edit* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #4 Posted August 13, 2019 This kind of premium time would be much more valuable for the players than the current. How much more would you be willing to spend for that 'active premium time'? What would the € to hour exchange rate be? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #5 Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: Very quick replies. Well they get 5 cents extra for every control-v. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #6 Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: This kind of premium time would be much more valuable for the players than the current. How much more would you be willing to spend for that 'active premium time'? What would the € to hour exchange rate be? It should not cost any more. It is a simple program and this single change would ensure 16 more subscribers... As I have the choice to spend or not WG should make it too attractive to ignore... Common business sense to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #7 Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Migantium_Mashum said: ... Common business sense to me. Unless you are a business owner or mogul, your business sense has little weight behind it. The current premium time cost is based on continued usage. If you want a system that turns on and off when playing or not, the cost per minute should be set accordingly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MMI-] MrHappydiamond Players 42 posts 7,247 battles Report post #8 Posted August 13, 2019 4 minuti fa, Migantium_Mashum ha scritto: It should not cost any more. It is a simple program and this single change would ensure 16 more subscribers... As I have the choice to spend or not WG should make it too attractive to ignore... Common business sense to me. I had the same idea but they would surely set a higher price for that. In fact a 1 year subscription working like that could actually last couple years. They'd probably sell a one-month subscription at the current 1 year price. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MMI-] MrHappydiamond Players 42 posts 7,247 battles Report post #9 Posted August 13, 2019 Proprio ora, Europizza ha scritto: Unless you are a business owner or mogul, your business sense has little weight behind it. The current premium time cost is based on continued usage. If you want a system that turns on and off when playing or not, the cost per minute should be set accordingly. I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted August 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: It should not cost any more. It has more value, therefore will cost more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #11 Posted August 13, 2019 I think its more rediculous, that a game doesnt count for premium, when i start with premium time but it ends after it expires... I played an Operation today, with 17 minutes left. I sat 2 mins in queue for no apparent reason (2 games started in the time being). And the game took 19 mins because of full who just died. Boom, game ended, no premium bonus anymore. Thats really fucked up imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyThePirate Players 89 posts 4,024 battles Report post #12 Posted August 13, 2019 WG is running a subscription model. You pay a set amount of money and they office a service for a set amount of time, whether you use it or not. This is beneficial to the players because you can play almost as long as you want for one lower price per month. If you don't play a whole lot, then you probably wouldn't worry about premium that much anyway. The model you want is a pay-as-you-go model, AKA only pay for what you use. For players that only play a few hours a month, this is good since they would ultimately pay less. For everyone else this is bad, especially as the price would either be the same or more than what they would be playing under the other model. The people hit worst would be those who play a whole lot, since this model might make them go broke. Not to mention its a lot more complex for both WG (harder to predict how much income they will get) and the players (budgeting out money and time in game every time you log in, etc.) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #13 Posted August 13, 2019 Well ... I have a flat rate for my mobile phone. I pay a fix amount per month and can phone, text and use the internet as much as I want. If I'd switch to a unit based system I'd pay MORE if I'd keep my current useage of the contracts entities (phone, text, internet). However: If I'd use my phone less, then such a unit based contract would be more valuable to me. Point is: WG should offer both. A unit based premium time (X games of premium time cost you Y €) and a flat rate based premium time (what we have now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #14 Posted August 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: It should not cost any more. It is a simple program and this single change would ensure 16 more subscribers... As I have the choice to spend or not WG should make it too attractive to ignore... Common business sense to me. Im sorry that is just a stupid statement Prem time is set at a cost per day.. i currently have 203 days .. Know i play this game a LOT but if that equates to almost 5000hrs game play.. even if i was live on the server for 4 hours a day every day it would give me the equivalent of well over 3 years prem time... If WG did what you say the price would increase dramatically 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturnal_Scream Beta Tester 86 posts 3,641 battles Report post #15 Posted August 13, 2019 I dont understande the rant about wg buisness model of premium time. Its fine as is. If you dont know for certain how long you will play: buy shorter amount of premium. Yes you lose out on some extra value of premium time but thats the idea behind it, since they are people who need money as well. The only solution to the problem you describe would be to unify the cost of premium based on the days. so nomore discounts for longer periods of time. That would make premium much more expensive but hey, you wouldnt have a point of concern anymore:) also WG acutally provides an awesome free to play game. And it is truely free to play when compared to so many other which claim that title. you cant get any ingame benefits from buying premium. And playing without premium is reasonable as well. Also wg gives out free premium on events etc. So honestly if you have a problem about premium pricing.... dont buy it. Other than that, let wg run their buisness like they want. This practice of premium time is nothing different or worse than you local gym does. Go their place and rant them about it. (All what is written above is my own oppinion and i dont intend to discriminate or ashame anyone else having a different oppinion) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #16 Posted August 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: It should not cost any more. It is a simple program and this single change would ensure 16 more subscribers... As I have the choice to spend or not WG should make it too attractive to ignore... Common business sense to me. How much of the average premium time do you believe is used actively playing the game and thereby gaining rewards from it? If I spend 10 hours a week, my premium time would last 17 times longer than it does now. I don't remember exactly how much time I have left, but I wouldn't have to buy more premium time for several years. Same goes for many others. 16 more subscribers don't really cover the losses WG would take for going with your suggestion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfuss Players 331 posts 3,572 battles Report post #17 Posted August 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: It should not cost any more. It is a simple program and this single change would ensure 16 more subscribers... As I have the choice to spend or not WG should make it too attractive to ignore... Common business sense to me. You are crazy if you think 16 subscriptions would cover the money WG would lose with your proposal. I would suggest you never open your own business. It's not like premium time even costs much even buying it monthly its 2 beers down the pub a month. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
250swb Players 628 posts 2,129 battles Report post #18 Posted August 13, 2019 I'd have a thousand years of Premium time based on the OP's suggestion, so yes it's a great idea, I look froward to exploiting it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #19 Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Malfuss said: ... It's not like premium time even costs much even buying it monthly its 2 beers down the pub a month. I'm not overly fond of subscriptions to be honest. This isn't a major cost, I agree, but there are a huge amount of services around nowadays. Each one will drain a bit and soon there be nothing left for beers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #20 Posted August 13, 2019 The ability to put premium on "hold" when on vacation, working overtime etc would be real nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #21 Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ronchabale said: The ability to put premium on "hold" when on vacation, working overtime etc would be real nice. Sure it would be nice. The question is (from a business perspective): How much more would players be willing to spent on some 'use based' premium time? 10% more? 20%? 50%? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturnal_Scream Beta Tester 86 posts 3,641 battles Report post #22 Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ronchabale said: The ability to put premium on "hold" when on vacation, working overtime etc would be real nice. ask your local internet provider to put your internet contact on hold while you are on vacation. Would be nice,too. But sorry to dissapoint: thats not how life works 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfuss Players 331 posts 3,572 battles Report post #23 Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: I'm not overly fond of subscriptions to be honest. This isn't a major cost, I agree, but there are a huge amount of services around nowadays. Each one will drain a bit and soon there be nothing left for beers Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving money and keeping the beer fund topped up, but this guy thinks it's common business sense.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #24 Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Nocturnal_Scream said: ask your local internet provider to put your internet contact on hold while you are on vacation. Would be nice,too. But sorry to dissapoint: thats not how life works I know how life works, and it I am not disappointed in any way, its the same same with the car, it has to be insured and taxed whether used it or not and that is a significantly higher cost, I know premium time can be purchased by the day /week /month, I got full year of premium, cant be bothered fooling around, have like 75 days left, I will most likely get another year when I run out. (as long as they don´t screw up the game entirely) I dunno bout internet tho I pay that monthly. Still when I am not at home I turn OFF the lights to save money... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturnal_Scream Beta Tester 86 posts 3,641 battles Report post #25 Posted August 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ronchabale said: I know how life works, and it I am not disappointed in any way, its the same same with the car, it has to be insured and taxed whether used it or not and that is a significantly higher cost, I know premium time can be purchased by the day /week /month, I got full year of premium, cant be bothered fooling around, have like 75 days left, I will most likely get another year when I run out. (as long as they don´t screw up the game entirely) I dunno bout internet tho I pay that monthly. Still when I am not at home I turn OFF the lights to save money... Try turning off that internet of yours, doubt it will save you money. If you want to have it, this are the terms. End of the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites