So about Epicenter

[El2aZeR]

Since @Excavatus has locked the last thread (for very good reasons really as it was in violation of forum rules) but I personally believe the base point was still very valid I thought I'd provide a new thread in line with forum regulations to discuss it.

 

In my opinion Epicenter is a terrible gamemode, although that might be more due to the maps it is primarily played on than anything else. There is this weird notion that Epicenter encourages or even enforces aggressive play which in reality is just plain untrue. You'll usually see DDs in a mad rush towards the middle where they'll fight each other while everyone else just hangs back behind cover or bow on, boringly trading fire with each other while remaining completely static until one side eventually gives. In my experience this is WAY more campy than domination as domination at least provides some basic incentive for dynamic movement on flanks.

 

Now this can actually be counteracted by map size, which leads to the one single map that I actually like Epicenter on: Trident. Combined with the map architecture and generally shorter range of lower tier ships the gamemode makes for some fun mid-close range combat. On maps like Tears of the Desert or, imo the worst of them all due to the constant weather effects, Islands of Ice though? Nothing but a boring gigantic campfest.

 

So perhaps Epicenter should have its own dedicated maps instead of using normal ones. As it stands now it mostly just provides a terrible gameplay experience in random play.

[DFens_666]

I still prefer Epicenter to Standard battle

But i agree, islands of ice is absolute horseshit. TotD is... okish. Also i like epicenter in that lowtier map, whats it called, Big race? or something like that.

[Gebe_]

I agree that Trident is the best map for epicenter at the moment.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

51 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

So perhaps Epicenter should have its own dedicated maps 

 

Exactly.. and the maps on which Epeencentre should exclusively turn up on are... wait for it....

 

Two Brothers and Ocean

[Major_Damage225]

1 minute ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Two Brothers

Soo.... yolo through the middle everytime....

[loppantorkel]

I kind of enjoy the diversity. Same as for Standard battles, it's probably a worse game mode, but it offers some needed variety. Epicenter as a mode is not a big issue for me even if it's a worse mode.

[SirAmra]

I'd choose epicenter over standard battle any day of the week.

It is just a campfest galore.

Just had one on 2 borthers. Enemy team didn't even leaver their own cap.

[CptBarney]

17 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

Soo.... yolo through the middle everytime....

We just need three sisters, triple the lanes...

 

Triple teh fun!

 

balans!

[Yedwy]

I dont like Epicenter all that much, but in itself its not so bad, unless you get it like 5 times out of 10 battles, then it really straigns the nerves

[WarburtonLee]

41 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

I still prefer Epicenter to Standard battle

But i agree, islands of ice is absolute horseshit. TotD is... okish. Also i like epicenter in that lowtier map, whats it called, Big race? or something like that.

I actually prefer standard battles over both epicenter and domination. More time to do your thing, more flexibility in what to do.

[Verblonde]

As I said in the locked thread, I really don't like epicentre, but it could be worthwhile if people learned to play it properly (which almost certainly includes me as well)...

[Redcap375]

Don't like it, don't dislike it.  It's a big bag if meh.

 

Hardly any tactical flexibility and each teams digs in very quickly.

 

[BanzaiPiluso]

Before a battle start in this mode I always tell everybody 'remember to take rings'. So to avoid having a group of players drifting towards the sides chasing ghosts.

[Taliesn]

Yup, epicentre over Standard as well.

 

And I think it suits Ranked.

[Bear__Necessities]

I don’t mind epicentre. But I play my DD’s with a brain so it’s suits me. Farm the moron DD’s then control the zones.

[SeaWolf7]

Not a lover or hater of Epi but I would like to see it with perhaps on one map only, one that's more suited to that mode.

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

So perhaps Epicenter should have its own dedicated maps instead of using normal ones. As it stands now it mostly just provides a terrible gameplay experience in random play.

THIS

 

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

I still prefer Epicenter to Standard battle

But i agree, islands of ice is absolute horseshit. TotD is... okish. Also i like epicenter in that lowtier map, whats it called, Big race? or something like that.

...and THIS.

 

Epicenter is far better than Standard battle. Just the maps are very much crud.

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

As I said previously, in a DD I always intensely dislike Epicenter.

 

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IMO it's a really bad mode for DD's. We are expected to go into the epicenter to play sitting ducks and provide the enemy with an opportunity for gunnery/bombing/torpedo target practice.

 

It's not much fun in other classes either for me, because it is very difficult to engage the enemy fleet if either team decides to start camping. The merry go round that sometimes happens isn't much more fun either. And if by some weird accident you actually start having something that resembles a battle... suddenly someone has managed to cap the entire epicenter and the game ends right when are about to fire your first proper salvo.

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

59 minutes ago, SeaWolf7 said:

Not a lover or hater of Epi but I would like to see it with perhaps on one map only, one that's more suited to that mode.

I'd like to see many more maps or better designed maps for all. 

That's why I like epicentre... campers will not win it. 

[Hanse77SWE]

 

EDIT: After getting som flak for this I just find it confusing that some people thinks that a situation should adapt to them and not the other way around.

[CptBarney]

I wish the middle section had like an oil rig or maybe a small island with an airfield on it or something think these game modes could do with a bit more importance as to what we are trying to capture/defend half the time.

 

and new maps as well, wargaming can easily just pump out like 15 maps out and the titlescreen cards for each one.

[TeaAndTorps]

3 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

So perhaps Epicenter should have its own dedicated maps instead of using normal ones. As it stands now it mostly just provides a terrible gameplay experience in random play.

Makes a lot of sense. I agree with your assessment re. Trident, but would also include Big Race in maps where it can be fun – largely because that map can get so predictable in standard battle.

 

Altogether it is my least favourite mode and I probably don't play it very well, at least in part because it's so infrequent. The occasional variety it provides is appreciated, but I am constantly amazed at people's desire to secure every bit of the map except the capture point.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, 10ThousandThings said:

Makes a lot of sense. I agree with your assessment re. Trident, but would also include Big Race in maps where it can be fun – largely because that map can get so predictable in standard battle.

 

Altogether it is my least favourite mode and I probably don't play it very well, at least in part because it's so infrequent. The occasional variety it provides is appreciated, but I am constantly amazed at people's desire to secure every bit of the map except the capture point.

 

That would be because, especially in the case of the Epicenter, it is the focal point, or 'dead center' if you will....

[KillStealBoss]

Yeah I agree, epicenter on islands of ice is total chaos and crap mode. That snow storm....

[Butterdoll]

At the beginning I hated that map, but now it's not that bad and in co-op it's just fun.

for me epicentre it's trident, but that have more to do with the tiers I play than everything else...

I played epicentre in the so called tears of the cruisers map and can be fun (only in co-op, because I'm not crazy)

5 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

In my experience this is WAY more campy than domination as domination at least provides some basic incentive for dynamic movement on flanks

Most probable that's because in epicentre the caps are all in the same place and in domination we can choose more freely.

 

One thing is for sure.

WG makes us (playerbase) do certain things that after a while have the potential of turning ordinary.

e.g. Pick that t6 cruiser and go after that t8 BB, at first it can be daunting near impossible but after a while that Bismarck or whatnot turns in the usual background