[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #1 Posted August 3, 2019 Hi, Thought I would post these for those of you that haven't had a chance to see these yet. Looks like Wg is trying to do something similar to the British line IE. make them unique and a different style of game play which personally im all up for. No HE ladies and Gents instead we have SAP (semi armour piercing) and a moving smoke generator similar to the Perth but faster as it can be deployed at full speed and still conceal the ship?!! Oh and there is a sneak peek a the tier X Italian Destroyer too.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IaX74-Soac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKpSNH0qlJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BEqLCpD-98 Let me know you opinions and feelings and how they might work in the game. Do you like what you see so far? Wolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #2 Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, SeaWolf7 said: and a moving smoke generator similar to the Perth but faster as it can be deployed at full speed and still conceal the ship?!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #3 Posted August 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: With 40 sec duration and 3 minute cooldown even with premium consumables. And 3 charges with superintendent. Considering their low ROF it is sutational at best, but it might change who knows. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #4 Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, ollonborre said: With 40 sec duration and 3 minute cooldown even with premium consumables. And 3 charges with superintendent. Considering their low ROF it is sutational at best, atleast for now it might change. Well yeah but it helps them run away. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #5 Posted August 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Well yeah but it helps them run away. True. There are only a finite number of times you can effectively run away with that smoke though. Still it is an interesting consumable I will give them that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #6 Posted August 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Well yeah but it helps them run away. I think that's the idea....those citadels being so exposed if you do a runner from a hot situation your gunna need cover lol Ballistics seem quite good, high velocity with little to no drag although as he said not sure when and how effective the new SAP will be .....And very quick speed like 35+ kts - in principle I like what I see so far. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #7 Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said: Well yeah but it helps them run away. So the italian are gonna do what they do best then? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #8 Posted August 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said: So the italian are gonna do what they do best then? ez 100% winrate boiz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanzaiPiluso Players 1,217 posts 13,126 battles Report post #9 Posted August 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said: So the italian are gonna do what they do best then? Hey! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #10 Posted August 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Winged_Cat_Dormant said: Hey! <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P-A-R] _Lupastro_ Players 1,012 posts 13,896 battles Report post #11 Posted August 3, 2019 1 ora fa, Major_Damage225 ha scritto: So the italian are gonna do what they do best then? Pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted August 3, 2019 Screw running it helps in TURNING 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #13 Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Major_Damage225 said: So the italian are gonna do what they do best then? Nah mate if they'd actually do that they need tugboats that have fuel or add a harbour to every map so they can sit there. Looks like I might like 'em though, I also like RN cruisers. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #14 Posted August 3, 2019 56 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Looks like I might like 'em though, I also like RN cruisers. Their playstyle is much more active than the RN cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #15 Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said: Their playstyle is much more active than the RN cruisers. Yeah but with them player will have to THINK which is better ammo type to use in certain cases and aim at different parts of ship to actually do damage. Which will be hard for majority... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #16 Posted August 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said: Yeah but with them player will have to THINK which is better ammo type to use in certain cases and aim at different parts of ship to actually do damage. Which will be hard for majority... Or you could just load SAP and do 25k salvos on demand to any target (except DDs) from max range as long as you aim for the upper belt with the tier 10... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #17 Posted August 3, 2019 Just tried the Montecuccoli's SAP on a Kirov at point blank range. 54mm pen, couldn't for the life of me citpen one of the weakest belts and most vulnerable citadel in the game. I'm not sure why I would bother with that, and sacrifice 50% of my reload speed, when HE does similar damage, no chance to ricochet, doesn't have a damage cap on DD, and sets fires. I'm getting the worst of both AP and HE worlds, with added nerfs on top. There's no point in letting the public play (after grinding quite a bit) WIP stuff if it's barely functionnal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #18 Posted August 3, 2019 8 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Well yeah but it helps them run away. Which I think was one of the main applications in real life right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asakka Players 850 posts Report post #19 Posted August 3, 2019 Oh they are beautiful <3 Cant wait to play them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #20 Posted August 3, 2019 7 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Their playstyle is much more active than the RN cruisers. AH goody, hope I can pass the "sit still in smoke and go dakka" bit then. I always get bored. Move + dakka is more what I like (sometimes I even forget I have smoke). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #21 Posted August 4, 2019 14 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said: AH goody, hope I can pass the "sit still in smoke and go dakka" bit then. I always get bored. Move + dakka is more what I like (sometimes I even forget I have smoke). Uhm no cause Italian smoke is 40 sec only but has great feature - you can go full speed and be concealed. Which means of there's too hardcore situation you can run away being undetected and shoot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #22 Posted August 4, 2019 They really need to sort this ammo crap out, this line is too important to get f-ed up WG, really... Just give the s-AP gimmick to the RM BB line (change Roma as well) next to normal AP and tweak them accordingly AFAIK that was the historic god damn ammo setup in a BB anyway and make the cruiser line fire normal HE/AP shells, HE shells can have more alpha and less fire chance or something and with that smoke and no hydro its enough of a trade off and gimmick-ing 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #23 Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Yedwy said: change Roma as well Nah they don't change the premiums in that way. Jest like Aigle won't get MBRB. Gallant didn't get the RN DD smoke nor the hydro LoYang has its own hydro and USN smoke and normal torps Anshan has Russian smoke and normal torps too So they won't change the Italian premium cruisers nor the Roma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #24 Posted August 4, 2019 Oh I know its just a rant Btw did look at notsers zara video that sap seems an interesting mechanic might acctually work out ok 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #25 Posted August 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: Nah they don't change the premiums in that way. Jest like Aigle won't get MBRB. Gallant didn't get the RN DD smoke nor the hydro LoYang has its own hydro and USN smoke and normal torps Anshan has Russian smoke and normal torps too So they won't change the Italian premium cruisers nor the Roma. I was wondering this. Being that the Italian line will be so different to the existing Italian premium ships, I was thinking that by the end they will be a million miles away from them in play style as they will have 1. totally different ballistics 2. No smoke Surely they would contemplate bringing these in line eventually to match the rest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
