Clanbattles S06

[GarrusBrutus]

What is your experience and/or opinion on the current season?

Personally it feels like a breath of fresh air after the perpetual tier 10 events.

 

[MyopicHedgehog]

Sadly we didn't get to play due to no-shows (and we only needed 6!).

 

Looking forward to trying it though!

[AndyHill]

We got a few people thrown out of a game at a very bad time and probably missed ~3000 steel because of it, but I'm sure we will be duly compensated in no time.

[Aotearas]

Certainly something different but I really, REALLY dislike how the DD choice is basically just premiums between the Kidd/Lo Yang/Cossack/Harekaze with regular DDs being second or third rate choice.

 

Imho any competitive mode should be limited to regular ships only. No premiums whatsoever. But of course WG ain't going to do that ever, since they can sell a ton of premium ships precisely because they are so strong.

[ollonborre]

Yeah apart from the pure premium viable DD's it is a really nice breath of fresh air. We did try some different setups tonights and no one felt weak per se, it was mostly down to maps or personal stupidity.

[Logan_MountStuart]

12 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Certainly something different but I really, REALLY dislike how the DD choice is basically just premiums between the Kidd/Lo Yang/Cossack/Harekaze with regular DDs being second or third rate choice.

 

Imho any competitive mode should be limited to regular ships only. No premiums whatsoever. But of course WG ain't going to do that ever, since they can sell a ton of premium ships precisely because they are so strong.

Missed the team who fought CR33D tonight with 4 Akizukis and 2 Kagero's, and beat them! :D

[ColonelPete]

I like it.

[Redcap375]

On Holiday at the moment so wont be on until weekend but let me guess...Cossacks and Lo-Yangs? Vlads? Balti and chappy with those kuts that have them? Flanking Atago?Lol.

 

Well from the colour we are doing fine but looking foward to tier 8.

[Afghanicus]

I'm probably the only active member of my clan. Never saw anyone online and never played a clan battle so far.

 

Meh.

[BrusilovX]

For some reason we were told that Clan battles were on the 1st August so there wasn't many around to take part.

[lossi_2018]

 

5 hours ago, Palubarac said:

I'm probably the only active member of my clan. Never saw anyone online and never played a clan battle so far.

 

Meh.

Same, but we're only 2 left anyway haha. I need 4 guys to play one battle for the respec I've no other ambitions

[ironhammer500]

I think the times are bad for EU as a lot of people just get home from work when they start so yea not many on at the start.

[Verblonde]

We had enough people available yesterday, having missed the previous one due to lack of personnel - I really enjoyed it.

 

I'm liking the T8 a lot, although I'm guilty of breaking out the premiums (Cossack in my case); I think a sometimes overlooked reason to go for premiums, over and above them often being powerful, is that they'll take any captain - I was considering Lightning, but I don't have a 19-pointer for her, whereas Cossack will accept a better captain from higher up the silver tree.

 

This might be another argument in favour of WG introducing a buyable way to make any fully researched silver ship (maybe put a tier limit on it, to help reduce seal-clubbing?) effectively premium - I'd be more likely to use non-premiums in competitive modes if my earnings and captain usage wasn't gimped compared to the premium ship options.

[T0byJug]

17 hours ago, Aotearas said:

Certainly something different but I really, REALLY dislike how the DD choice is basically just premiums between the Kidd/Lo Yang/Cossack/Harekaze with regular DDs being second or third rate choice.

 

Imho any competitive mode should be limited to regular ships only. No premiums whatsoever. But of course WG ain't going to do that ever, since they can sell a ton of premium ships precisely because they are so strong.

Agreed Clan battles at any tier should be restricted to tech tree only...

 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

Sad, because I was told that I'm not allowed to play Monarch.

[Floofz]

Its made me realize how utterly useless T8 cruisers are compared to tier 10. And how extremely imbalanced BBs are. Honestly T8 is fun for a time but T10 is way better balanced.

Yesterday my team failed hard, I was in a Massachusetts. I easely killed all their cruisers and their BB more or less single handedly. Im not bragging either, they had no chance, Massis heal reloads too fast and the guns overmatch everything in its tier. That together with the insane secondary battery you just murder everything. And cruisers in T8 doesnt have a heal either in most cases, so youre usually severly handicapped even at the start of the game.

BBs and DDs are fine, Cruisers are baaad. Their dpm pales in comparison to their T10 counterparts where as BBs arent much different. And not having a heal in most cases just makes them even harder to play.

[GarrusBrutus]

4 hours ago, Floofz said:

Its made me realize how utterly useless T8 cruisers are compared to tier 10. And how extremely imbalanced BBs are. Honestly T8 is fun for a time but T10 is way better balanced.

Yesterday my team failed hard, I was in a Massachusetts. I easely killed all their cruisers and their BB more or less single handedly. Im not bragging either, they had no chance, Massis heal reloads too fast and the guns overmatch everything in its tier. That together with the insane secondary battery you just murder everything. And cruisers in T8 doesnt have a heal either in most cases, so youre usually severly handicapped even at the start of the game.

BBs and DDs are fine, Cruisers are baaad. Their dpm pales in comparison to their T10 counterparts where as BBs arent much different. And not having a heal in most cases just makes them even harder to play.

I dont think Tier 8 is imbalanced per se. I find this tier waaaaay less campy than tier 10, where everyone and their mother has radar.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

<Ha-hemp.>

 

[JohnnyAlphabet]

Enjoyed the battles today. Yes I used my Atago B, but a teammate in Kagero was having fun torping various ships...

A lot of people are using silver ships as things are fairly balanced.

[BLUB__BLUB]

Good fun. We won 4 and lost 4. I took Edinburgh and sure has plenty dakka. 

Also it can tank a surprising amount. Weird thing: NO CITADELS even if they were broadsiding like hell.

And I sure know how to hit them... 

 

MORE SHEEP!

 

[Floofz]

2 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

I dont think Tier 8 is imbalanced per se. I find this tier waaaaay less campy than tier 10, where everyone and their mother has radar.

 

I think its less campy because of different maps and different cap locations. Itd work the same in T10. Another thing that kinda ruins it is all the OP premium ships, some of which you cant get anymore. Massachusetts is EASY the best BB for this event, and its a premium. And when it comes to cruisers you have ships like Kutuzov, which is both a premium and a ship you cant get. And you have Atago which has a heal, Prinz Eugen that has a heal. All these ships are very common, and theyre all premiums. DDs gets a bit better but you have ships like Cossack that is very good and Harekaze (which you cant get anymore).

 

Id like to see a clan battle season or a ranked season where premium ships werent allowed at all.

[Eddy209]

Generaly i like that hey switched to T8. The games take less time as their is less of an hp pool with 6 players. Its nice to see other hsips than those t10 for a change. Sure some of the best choices are premiums but t8 has loads of ships that can work. 

The one thing that buggs me is that comp modes in general always show wich ships are not realy viable anymore. The whole american line is good to go for t8 CBs. But the germans are basicly all second rate to trash with the japanese somewhere in between and the other nations have about 1 to 2 good to okay choices but 1 stinker in the lineup. 

I wish they would mix maps and gamemodes up a bit more for all those ships to be good choices. And the importance of radar is again hampering ship choice - they should deactivate that featue for CBs or host CBs on T7 or lower.

[GarrusBrutus]

7 hours ago, Floofz said:

 

I think its less campy because of different maps and different cap locations. Itd work the same in T10. Another thing that kinda ruins it is all the OP premium ships, some of which you cant get anymore. Massachusetts is EASY the best BB for this event, and its a premium. And when it comes to cruisers you have ships like Kutuzov, which is both a premium and a ship you cant get. And you have Atago which has a heal, Prinz Eugen that has a heal. All these ships are very common, and theyre all premiums. DDs gets a bit better but you have ships like Cossack that is very good and Harekaze (which you cant get anymore).

 

Id like to see a clan battle season or a ranked season where premium ships werent allowed at all.

Sorry but I do not agree with you: I think the meta is less campy because of the lack of radar, as well as the ships being less strong. A camping stalingrad can absolutely annihilate you if you turn in front of it. A chapayev for example less so. So even if you get radared in tier 8 gameplay you can surive it easier than in tier 10.

 

So far I've seen about every battleship in the game being used in clanbattles. So to state that the Massa is "easy" the best bb for this event is not true. Maybe it is for your team lineup and tactic. But I doubt all the other clans are wrong not bringing a massa.

 

The part where I do agree with you is that unavailable premiums such as the kutuzov are kinda questionable since they create a gap between the haves and havenots.

I also agree on the premium destroyers being straight up better than their silver counterparts. Why bring a benson when you can bring a kidd?

[Gebe_]

3 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

I also agree on the premium destroyers being straight up better than their silver counterparts. Why bring a benson when you can bring a kidd?

I think Kagero is a top notch pick, verry underrated. I'd definitely play it if my clan... didn't prefer Cossack/Loyang instead. Akizuki is awesome, but not in a DD role (it is a DPM support).

 

Yeah, I'm both disagreeing and agreeing with you in the same paragraph. Deal with it.

[Floofz]

23 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Sorry but I do not agree with you: I think the meta is less campy because of the lack of radar, as well as the ships being less strong. A camping stalingrad can absolutely annihilate you if you turn in front of it. A chapayev for example less so. So even if you get radared in tier 8 gameplay you can surive it easier than in tier 10.

 

So far I've seen about every battleship in the game being used in clanbattles. So to state that the Massa is "easy" the best bb for this event is not true. Maybe it is for your team lineup and tactic. But I doubt all the other clans are wrong not bringing a massa.

 

The part where I do agree with you is that unavailable premiums such as the kutuzov are kinda questionable since they create a gap between the haves and havenots.

I also agree on the premium destroyers being straight up better than their silver counterparts. Why bring a benson when you can bring a kidd?

 

In the matches we played there sure was just as many radarships. Baltimore, cleveland, wichita, chapayev. The same shiplines that has radar in T10 also has radar in T8.

I disagree with the BBs. We tried everything, I myself ran games in both the Tirpitz and the Massa. The ships have the same strength but Massa is better in every single way. You need 16 inch guns or more in order to overmatch cruisers like the Baltimore. But because of the fragility of tier 8 cruisers you need to be able to tank damage for your team in a way that wasnt necessary at tier 10. And because of Massas borderline OP heal it is far superior at that aswell compared to other BBs.

 

Tier 8 is simply badly balanced. Cruisers have too low dpm and too low survivability compared to tier 10. BBs are way too strong. Maybe if they increased the teams to 7 and let us use CVs itd be better balanced, but thats a controversial statement.