[NWP] JarrusJenkins Players 106 posts 5,227 battles Report post #1 Posted July 27, 2019 is it me or have wargaming raised the citadel of all the higher tier British bbs? I always thought this was a characteristic of them but now we've got to put up with being penned there now? whats that all about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #2 Posted July 27, 2019 U show broadside to BB guns, you should explode. If you stay angled and take pen damage, you can zombie heal far more damage. anyway they did raise all cigs so they are above waterline 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spunyarn Players 533 posts Report post #3 Posted July 27, 2019 They tested a higher citadel for a few months with versions of the Monarch and Conqueror and decided to implement it for King George V, Lion, Duke of York, Monarch, and Conqueror with this update, as mentioned in the Developer Bulletin on the 3rd and the Update notes on the 23rd. They also improved the repair party (higher percentage of non-citadel damage repaired for all, higher rate of healing for King George V + Duke of York + Monarch, faster cooldown for all) as counter-balance. https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/public-test/bulletin-086/#balance https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/update-086-french-destroyers/#balance 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] JarrusJenkins Players 106 posts 5,227 battles Report post #4 Posted July 27, 2019 so why is it that the vanguard doesn't get this improved repair party even though its had an over the water line citadel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #5 Posted July 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, JarrusJenkins said: so why is it that the vanguard doesn't get this improved repair party even though its had an over the water line citadel? Cause unlike the rest of the line it is actually a rather well balanced ship... due to being able to hit things with it's guns from more than 3km... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #6 Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, JarrusJenkins said: so why is it that the vanguard doesn't get this improved repair party even though its had an over the water line citadel? 40 sec of heal cooldown. That's not improved for you? You wanna have 20sec? And he can heal as Warspite. Look at Monarch in contrast... Yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_crow_96 Players 73 posts Report post #7 Posted July 27, 2019 Because Vanguard has already an improved repair party 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] mantiscore Players 546 posts 14,561 battles Report post #8 Posted July 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Chaos_Umbra said: Cause unlike the rest of the line it is actually a rather well balanced ship... due to being able to hit things with it's guns from more than 3km... Conqueror is actually rather accurate. In my experience at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VS-UK] Pte_Maylam Players 48 posts 4,924 battles Report post #9 Posted July 27, 2019 It was probably due... Now, perhaps if they cared to give US bbs their old higher citadels back, that'd be grand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #10 Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, AronForce said: Conqueror is actually rather accurate. In my experience at least He was talking about the Vanguard. And both Conq and Vanguard are accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #11 Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Yes they have. Unbalancing what little advantage they did have, now German BB are where its at, for a work tool, with the improved pen angles on American BB, spamming HE for farming XP from a distance via a BB, is a " little more invaluable " Q: Is it good or Bad <rhetoric> ? It doesn't matter, you just move on to some thing else, with the current MM buying a T7 T8 premier ship is not a happy place to be, unless you really want " that ship " Happy Hunting Edited July 27, 2019 by Mr_Smasher grammar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #12 Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr_Smasher said: Unbalancing what little advantage they did have, Apart from best stealth in class from tier 8 and up, super heal that can reprint your ship twice in a game, the most ludicrous HE in the game and beeing somewhat small in BB terms. The citadel raise is a good thing, and the added armor strip around the citadel just means you get rewarded more for angling instead of herp derp broadsiding everywhere. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #13 Posted July 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, ollonborre said: Apart from best stealth in class from tier 8 and up, super heal that can reprint your ship twice in a game, the most ludicrous HE in the game and beeing somewhat small in BB terms. The citadel raise is a good thing, and the added armor strip around the citadel just means you get rewarded more for angling instead of herp derp broadsiding everywhere. Add to this great maneuverability of Conqueror with legendary module. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #14 Posted July 27, 2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #15 Posted July 27, 2019 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,182 battles Report post #16 Posted July 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr_Smasher said: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[W-L] Rhineheart_Thor [W-L] Players 1,738 posts 15,515 battles Report post #17 Posted July 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: FREE WITH EVERY PURCHASE 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,811 battles Report post #18 Posted July 27, 2019 yes i noticed the COnqueror citadel had been raised when i hit it's citadel 5 times in my JB with reload booster activated....it vanished quite quickly, then again if you broadside it never ends well 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #19 Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr_Smasher said: with the improved pen angles on American BB US BBs dont have those improved angles I think its good, that they finaly got a citadel. Would have been hard to kill a retard conq yesterday who still had full HP after camping all game long. But now, it just died within 2,5 salvos from 2 BBs 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #20 Posted July 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, illy said: yes i noticed the COnqueror citadel had been raised when i hit it's citadel 5 times in my JB with reload booster activated....it vanished quite quickly, then again if you broadside it never ends well Now only if rest of the BBs would follow the trend... Heck, if entire "armored box" is considered a citadel for cruisers, why its not for battleships sans Yamato? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] JarrusJenkins Players 106 posts 5,227 battles Report post #21 Posted July 27, 2019 the problem is that theyre still very vulnerable to cancerous cruiser over island he spam having 32mm armor everywhere. Sure the concealment is a great thing but if you've got the fun police in the air above you, then its no fun time because you get focused and it's pretty much impossible to turn around and drop the hammer (ie run away) I suppose the zombie heal makes up for this but at tier 7 and 8 it doesn't. I suppose really is just the fact that you can be put in tier 9 matches in a tier 7 and a tier 10 match in a tier 8 ship (Hood and Vanguard respectively) as for the heal comment I made and the response, I see your point so that's fair enough. and also why doesn't the vanguard get the better pen angles like the hood? surely it would need them considering you've basically got tier 6 guns and the fact the guns on the vanguard are the exactly the same as the ones on the hood but with much worse firing arcs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #22 Posted July 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Panocek said: Now only if rest of the BBs would follow the trend... Heck, if entire "armored box" is considered a citadel for cruisers, why its not for battleships sans Yamato? I present to you: the average BB player 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] JarrusJenkins Players 106 posts 5,227 battles Report post #23 Posted July 27, 2019 probably right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] JarrusJenkins Players 106 posts 5,227 battles Report post #24 Posted July 27, 2019 I've just read that the heal now allows you to heal 50% of the citadel damage? well I suppose that settles that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] JarrusJenkins Players 106 posts 5,227 battles Report post #25 Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr_Smasher said: to be fair, from what I've been told, with that module it plays a lot like the vanguard. I reckon that would be the one for me then. Now what it needs is those 457mm guns fixing, Ohio and Georgia get sniper like dispersion but the Conqueror has to make do with just throwing shells over there....somewhere... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
