Wargaming, why do you regard your EU players as second class citizens?

[BlackFish__]

Wargaming, what is this good for? You show us Italian cruisers up to tier 7 and then you show the hight tiers on Russia?

I would really like to understand the rationale behind this.
You shot yourself in the foot with the totally botched NTC idea, and now this?

Stop regarding us just like milking cows!

 

 

[COPlUM]

3/6 nations with full DD, BB and CA lines are European. 5/10 nations in the game are European.
Literally half the ships in this game are European
 

[Sinthanor]

This is some high class whining. It's not like we won't get the information the same time like everyone else?

[FishDogFoodShack]

Hes talking about the stream that just happened.

Instead of syncing a russian and EU stream to reveal the new Italian Cruisers, they are showing the t1-7 ships on the EU stream, but the t8-10 on the russian stream tomorrow exclusively. In russian. With no English subs.

EDIT: I mean, there is a reason the news thread used to be called "something interesting from RU".

[COPlUM]

1 minute ago, FishDogFoodShack said:

Hes talking about the stream that just happened.

Oh my bad, it read like *not enough european ships in the game reeee*

[FishDogFoodShack]

Just now, NikolayKuznetsov said:

Oh my bad, it read like *not enough european ships in the game reeee*

Honestly if I had not just watched the stream chat go ballistic about it, I wouldn't have had any idea either. 

[ColonelPete]

Yeah, you must feel really entitled to complain that you got information before somebody else...

[KillStealBoss]

4 hours ago, BlackFish__ said:

Wargaming, what is this good for? You show us Italian cruisers up to tier 7 and then you show the hight tiers on Russia?

I would really like to understand the rationale behind this.
You shot yourself in the foot with the totally botched NTC idea, and now this?

Stop regarding us just like milking cows!

 

 

You wanna eat all the cake when it's still not ready? Dude , chill out. For real. 

[anonym_WQDIB9XrzbSp]

It's called maximising youtube hits and associated revenues. Keep your knickers on.

[Culiacan_Mexico]

4 hours ago, BlackFish__ said:

Wargaming, why do you regard your EU players as second class citizens?

  We have moved up!!!      

[FukushuNL]

OP does tick something that has been going on from day one, though, not treating every WOWS community the same. Many times none of the regions got the same events, some got more events than the other region, sometimes the events were the same but the rules differed or the rewards differed. Then we get the split up between WG launcher people and steam players. All the while everyone is playing the same game with the same ships from the same era, replaying the same missions and celebrating (many of) the same events. We celebrate Asian and American events, the other regions celebrate European events. So why is WG splitting up the community?

 

ANd "for economic purposes" is BS. This has just riled up the community lots of times and it puts WG in a bad light. Why would one willfully spit their community in the face with all these obvious negative moves? Just like why can't everyone just read about the uncovering of the same ships at the same time. At least give the Italian community the scoop on everything about the Italian navy. There are so many obvious facepalm moments in WG's carreer (lately the steam sales debacle and the strange and overwhelming amount of lootbox (issues) and now for some reason they split up te reveal between Europe (Italy)/US for the 1 to 8 Italian cruisers and leave the other two for the Russian public. The issue at hand is not really noteworthy, but it's all the strange choices WG makes time after time after time that makes something like this stand out more than it would otherwise.

[ColonelPete]

4 hours ago, FukushuNL said:

OP does tick something that has been going on from day one, though, not treating every WOWS community the same. Many times none of the regions got the same events, some got more events than the other region, sometimes the events were the same but the rules differed or the rewards differed. Then we get the split up between WG launcher people and steam players. All the while everyone is playing the same game with the same ships from the same era, replaying the same missions and celebrating (many of) the same events. We celebrate Asian and American events, the other regions celebrate European events. So why is WG splitting up the community?

 

ANd "for economic purposes" is BS. This has just riled up the community lots of times and it puts WG in a bad light. Why would one willfully spit their community in the face with all these obvious negative moves? Just like why can't everyone just read about the uncovering of the same ships at the same time. At least give the Italian community the scoop on everything about the Italian navy. There are so many obvious facepalm moments in WG's carreer (lately the steam sales debacle and the strange and overwhelming amount of lootbox (issues) and now for some reason they split up te reveal between Europe (Italy)/US for the 1 to 8 Italian cruisers and leave the other two for the Russian public. The issue at hand is not really noteworthy, but it's all the strange choices WG makes time after time after time that makes something like this stand out more than it would otherwise.

Hint: Not all people are the same. You maximize profits when you tailor your marketing to each customer group. That is how the world works.

[Sir_Grzegorz]

Makes me wonder if there is post on russian forum saying "WG why you treat us as second class players. You showed italian ships on EU stream first"

 

Or whining is EU thing?

 

I have not watched the stream, ships will be in game I will take a look at them, why bother now.

[DasTongle]

Yeah as if i want to follow that long stream.

Just relax and wait for the Announcement Propper.

I am sure there will be portal news soon.

[Klopirat]

16 minutes ago, Sir_Grzegorz said:

Makes me wonder if there is post on russian forum saying "WG why you treat us as second class players. You showed italian ships on EU stream first"

this. 7 of 10 tiers were revealed on the EU/EN stream, plus the characteristics of the Italian cruiser branch, which leaves only 3 "secrets" to be revealed in the RU stream...

[Fat_Maniac]

5 hours ago, Klopirat said:

this. 7 of 10 tiers were revealed on the EU/EN stream, plus the characteristics of the Italian cruiser branch, which leaves only 3 "secrets" to be revealed in the RU stream...

4 sekrets commrade actually. There is a new premium as well

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Well for sure WG don't take my money as second class, oh they love that alright, WG staff have yourself a jolly good vodka or two on me, cheers.

[T0byJug]

19 hours ago, BlackFish__ said:

Wargaming, what is this good for? You show us Italian cruisers up to tier 7 and then you show the hight tiers on Russia?

I would really like to understand the rationale behind this.
You shot yourself in the foot with the totally botched NTC idea, and now this?

Stop regarding us just like milking cows!

 

 

Wargaming why is Russia treated as second class citizens ..  after all EU got notified 24 hours before than..

[COPlUM]

Doesn't the Russian server have 300% XP five battles a day for every ship every day of the year? Perhaps low -& mid tier stuff isn't relevant to them because they grind through it all in 3 games. Why show low and midtier stuff to Russians if every ship line on that server is T10 in an afternoon.

[veslingr]

21 hours ago, BlackFish__ said:

Wargaming, what is this good for? You show us Italian cruisers up to tier 7 and then you show the hight tiers on Russia?

I would really like to understand the rationale behind this.
You shot yourself in the foot with the totally botched NTC idea, and now this?

Stop regarding us just like milking cows!

 

 

Do you know Russia is part of Europe (continent) too? :)

[T0byJug]

14 hours ago, FukushuNL said:

OP does tick something that has been going on from day one, though, not treating every WOWS community the same. Many times none of the regions got the same events, some got more events than the other region, sometimes the events were the same but the rules differed or the rewards differed. Then we get the split up between WG launcher people and steam players. All the while everyone is playing the same game with the same ships from the same era, replaying the same missions and celebrating (many of) the same events. We celebrate Asian and American events, the other regions celebrate European events. So why is WG splitting up the community?

 

ANd "for economic purposes" is BS. This has just riled up the community lots of times and it puts WG in a bad light. Why would one willfully spit their community in the face with all these obvious negative moves? Just like why can't everyone just read about the uncovering of the same ships at the same time. At least give the Italian community the scoop on everything about the Italian navy. There are so many obvious facepalm moments in WG's carreer (lately the steam sales debacle and the strange and overwhelming amount of lootbox (issues) and now for some reason they split up te reveal between Europe (Italy)/US for the 1 to 8 Italian cruisers and leave the other two for the Russian public. The issue at hand is not really noteworthy, but it's all the strange choices WG makes time after time after time that makes something like this stand out more than it would otherwise.

Want to give some examples? Because for a longtime know we have had Server Sync on all of the larger events and most of the smaller

[ColonelPete]

On 7/18/2019 at 6:43 PM, BlackFish__ said:

Wargaming, what is this good for? You show us Italian cruisers up to tier 7 and then you show the hight tiers on Russia?

I would really like to understand the rationale behind this.
You shot yourself in the foot with the totally botched NTC idea, and now this?

Stop regarding us just like milking cows!

And today the EU server got the stream about the Test Server and incoming changes two hours before the RU server.

Yes, EU players are clearly second class citizens

[Shaka_D]

On 7/18/2019 at 5:43 PM, BlackFish__ said:

Wargaming, what is this good for? You show us Italian cruisers up to tier 7 and then you show the hight tiers on Russia?

I would really like to understand the rationale behind this.
You shot yourself in the foot with the totally botched NTC idea, and now this?

Stop regarding us just like milking cows!

 

 

I can't exactly see how your example above reinforces your title statement adequately. Yes, it would be nice if the information release was as simultaneous as they can make it, but this does feel a little like nit-picking. WG have always, no matter the title, seemed to fail at maintaining consistency across different server groups, so much so I've come to expect independent information releases, events, and the like, and therefore am not disappointed. It's not like anyones life depends on it does it? Just accept they're not that great at communicating and a few other things and forget about it. You'll find your life hasn't changed by this. If you learn to stop expecting things, even reasonable behaviour from some folk, then you can't be accused of being entitled, as misplaced as that would be, nor will you be disappointed. They write the rules and overall it doesn't really matter.

[KillStealBoss]

16 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

And today the EU server got the stream about the Test Server and incoming changes two hours before the RU server.

Yes, EU players are clearly second class citizens

But RU servers are better than ours, they don't have such servers issues as we have. Same with NA. 

[ColonelPete]

Yes, tell yourself that.