French Destroyers Event: the Full Guide

[ZoidFile]

On 7/22/2019 at 4:48 PM, Crysantos said:

I understand the point you're making, I just don't want all events to be thrown into the same bucket as Benham.

People will always compare new events to the worst one. The problem is, the events WG puts out are getting constantly worse and worse.

 

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Yes, it was grindy but it was also a free.

 

And I stop you right there. While it may not cost money it still cost lots and of our time. The term time = money does not come out of nowhere. And you guys (and gals) at WG really don't put much value on peoples time anymore.

 

Putting such a time-gated and grind heavy event in the mid of the summer and holiday season was either inept or pure malice, sorry to say that. And this comes from a player that is disabled and lives in bumblef*ck nowhere. I should be the core audience for a grind event and even my time is too precious for that.

 

And then we have the DIN A4 sites full of rules and ifs and ors and this and that. All the loot box stuff on top. It's just not fun any more. In my view WG is choking the golden goose for some marginally bigger eggs.

[hrzo18]

 

so, during update 086 value of token is 22.500 then in update 088 valuse is droped on 12.000??

[Sadzior]

30 lootboxes x 1000 Debilars...

OMG..OMG..

 

Theres a French roullete...and this is a russian one...

 

[Toivia]

3 hours ago, hrzo18 said:

 

so, during update 086 value of token is 22.500 then in update 088 valuse is droped on 12.000??

You're confusing tokens. Each consecutive token is only attainable in a specific update. Next update, the tokens remain on your account (you can still spend them), but the second next update, non spent tokns get exchanged for credits.

For example, tomorrow (0.8.6), old Allowance Provision (from previous soviet event) tokens will be exchanged to credits 22 500 for each. The update after that (0.8.7), Fuel tokens (used in this current update ending with the patch tomorrow) will be exchanged also at a rate of22 500 credits for each. Then finally, in update 0.8.8, the tokens (republic tokens) you will start receiving tomorrow will be exchanged at 12 000 credits per.

[Fesvil]

I'm no fan of grind, but I'm also no fan of whiners wanting to do nothing but invest time. Whilst time is the most valuable commodity available it's also impossible to pay your rent with time alone, you need to invest it in something->work. Same for WG, whilst the players invest time in playing the game, that won't pay for the game unless they put advertising all over the place, like "free" games on your phones are full of. So WG needs plebs like me that spend a stupid amount of money on the game, I've no problem with that. I have a problem with the players that provide nothing but whine after whine after whine regardless of what WG does. Boo frickin' woo that you didn't manage to do the crazy mission  for 100 tokens that would have given you benham for 0$£€ or whatever, you can still get it very cheap. If you bought the Hill when it was available you could get 75 tokens over 25 days (but you would have to just do a quick coop to get it, not even have to win), that investment you would get back when you completed the last directive, that would give you hill's value in doubloons and you would actually have gotten a sweet deal, and not have to work your bum of to get benham.. I did directive 2 and 3 in about 3 hours of total time, but didn't manage to do the last due to vacation. Tough luck, I don't whine or cry over it, if I want the boat I would make sure I got it..

 

I do however like the campaign model, but I would love to get those like the christmas one for steel :-)...

 

Anyways, hope you got what you wanted from the event..

[Shaka_D]

On 7/17/2019 at 4:20 PM, Mr_Snoww said:

@The_EURL_Guy why delaying them over 3 patches this time? even delaying a line over 2 was a bit of a stretch but over 3 patches is kinda pointless.

Possibly to allow them to draw out the release of the ships otherwise they'll not have much to fill the inbetweens with. Further to this it allows them to monetise it more. If they released the whole line then there'd be nothing much else for a while to come.....problem with what the're doing is using the same recipe over and over again and the more we say it's too grindy the more grindy they make it....talk about arrogance, lol. Nothing much exciting. I'm done with anything grindy, it puts me off because it makes the game overly tedious..is this what they want you think?

[tobbelobbe_1]

On 7/23/2019 at 7:52 PM, ZoidFile said:

 

 

 

And I stop you right there. While it may not cost money it still cost lots and of our time. The term time = money does not come out of nowhere. And you guys (and gals) at WG really don't put much value on peoples time anymore.

 

 

 

True my brother, that insight which we share speaks volumes, thus not flattering to the majority. If the gaming community, and the rest of the world would understand the value of time all (gaming) companys would be in serious trouble.

[VeteranGamer84]

This game is getting more and more money consuming day after day.

[Episparh]

1 hour ago, ABED1984 said:

This game is getting more and more money consuming day after day.

This is what you get when you relay just on old players and there is not new blood.  

And there is not new players because the game relay on external resources of knowledge rather on knowledge gained through game play while doing tutorials. If we had a constant flow of new players who would buy Tirpitz and other old premiums, it all might be different. 

 

P. S. It bacomes suddenly very cheap it will mean that they are closing

[Ydoum]

LOOT BOXES! I'M SO HAPPY!

 

/said nobody ever. effing ever.

[The_Tipsy]

Nope. I sacrificed enough for the Benham grind. I will play my random, clan and ranked. These grinds are just too much - and now they throw in RNG and premium currency (up to 30K Doubloons? Really?) at the end. No thanks - and I am a DD main.

 

WG - you must understand. Most people have a limited/preset budget for the game.

 

You do NOT get more money by making us grind, with a ridiculous RNG, expensive prize that most people will not be able to play. You get more money by keeping the player base "interested and engaged" in the long term. I would love to try out the Mogadore - but:

a) my life and family are more important; and

b) this is a weird ship - and the current CV / radar meta hasn't stabilised. I may like this ship - but i don't know. I suspect it has a high skill base and is a very "Niche" / unique play-style. I am simply not gambling to have another ship gathering cobwebs in port. I am angry already that you have nerfed Yeuyang and now Chung Mu. 

[WhateverFloatsYourBoat]

43 minutes ago, The_Tipsy said:

WG - you must understand. Most people have a limited/preset budget for the game.

 

You do NOT get more money by making us grind, with a ridiculous RNG, expensive prize that most people will not be able to play. You get more money by keeping the player base "interested and engaged" in the long term.

But we both know there is a small percentage of players that just buy stuff, the same people that have hundreds to maybe thousands of euros invested in this game.

Guess these players hope to achieve something with buying the content but i imagine a month later they cant even remember what they bought and its on to the next 'sale'.

Theres nothing wrong with continued purchases for a game which has been up and running for the last few years.
But there is something very wrong with setting up your sales policy to abuse human weaknesses, even if it only involves a small percentage of people.

[Lacomble1942]

On 7/17/2019 at 5:34 PM, Europizza said:

I can't even be bothered to read these walls of text, promising walls of grind for walls of special tokens to obtain weird ships. I'm burned out on all these 'special' events.

And so are a lot . The game is killing itself by just chashing $

[Fesvil]

@Crysantos what is the compensation if you buy the Siroco now and then get it from the Directives? Credits or Doubloons?

 

[hjsteg]

I like the event, but find disgusting that they try to lure players into buying loot boxes for a chance to "win" the Mogador. Remember it is a tech tree ship that you can grind out the ordinary way. And they ofc introduce the tier VIII cruiser Bayard which is a great ship accoring to the reviewers (a mini Henry). And with the Bayard there comes a mission set that will help you in the grind.

 

I have a lot of ships and will do the "Symbols of France" in co-op. It is stupid that you need to win to get the tokens. So Wargaming is basically forcing me to play in co-op. It would be much more fun to do the mission in randoms, but hey this is Wargaming! Don't forget to demout flags and consumables.

 

I will give the directives a shot,  get camo for the tier V-VIII DD's, and perhaps the tier V premium DD. I don't see anything I would spend "real money" on here. Loot boxes is a big NO, NO.

[RenamedUser_517646985]

French directives and can't use Aigle to do them.

[Reckie]

46 minutes ago, akk70 said:

French directives and can't use Aigle to do them.

To be honest Aigle was not only for sale but also available for free through a mission so I can understand why it is not included.

 

Le Terrible is a different matter, quite disturbing that it's not included.

 

WG we all know you want to sell crates but how about adding the Le Terrible as a good gesture, the hunt for new fresh money does not have to over shadow your decisions completely, or does it?

[SplatterFest]

On ‎7‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 11:04 PM, victorem said:

Another ridiculously long and draining grind I imagine as usual. 

Too bored of this;   i didnt go for the Benham, its just insane to grind it for free... (but hey, we got convenient containers  for those "few" extra tokens you still need)

Im not even bothered to get Hill....   AND I am a collector,  or was,   and a DD player. 

Why? well....  you are forced to play a dumb   game mode that  you hate for hours and hours if you want to get the free stuff, 

also I ve been just a little short to get the good stuff a few times... so Igive up from minute one to save me time.

Besides, french DDs dont interest me. I could always get them in the future if I wanted them.

enjoy the hype . 

 

 

Agree.

 

It´s summer, better get out and catch some sun.  

[RenamedUser_517646985]

4 hours ago, Reckie said:

To be honest Aigle was not only for sale but also available for free through a mission so I can understand why it is not included.

sale or not its french dd

[Dams_77]

That event is a shame WG.

 

I missed benham for 1 daily mission, finished the event at 750 + points : WOAW. In short, I wondered if I should use my doublons for that ship. It was only for fun factor, some zoup would be nice right? It's probably bad enough in competitive. And Cvs are going to take another UP, because they are so FUN to play and to face. So my answer is no thanks, and it will be the same in future, as I see how you consider your players.

 

You always ask more to players, more time, more money. You use frustration instead of rewarding them.

 

It's sad to see that ugly business model when we see how good the game is

[Wicket_Boomber]

40 minutes ago, Dams_77 said:

That event is a shame WG.

 

I missed benham for 1 daily mission, finished the event at 750 + points : WOAW. In short, I wondered if I should use my doublons for that ship. It was only for fun factor, some zoup would be nice right? It's probably bad enough in competitive. And Cvs are going to take another UP, because they are so FUN to play and to face. So my answer is no thanks, and it will be the same in future, as I see how you consider your players.

 

You always ask more to players, more time, more money. You use frustration instead of rewarding them.

 

It's sad to see that ugly business model when we see how good the game is

I have made it with Benham , and I can only say to you , she is worth it ! , I have a loot of fun with that ship , I had game where I capped B, same time most my team was on A , and 4 ships that was on C died qiuckly , so we was 4 down , enemy 3 bb and 2 cruisers was going from C to A to flank our focess , we would lose , but ! , I was there , I have alone holded them back 7 minutes , I have 17 torpedo hits , just one kill , but that was enough to buy time my team to kill rest on  A , and flank enemy . Benham shoot 16 torps  every 65 sec , when I shoot first 16 , so before last set of 4 go 10.5 km , I can shoot another reloaded set of 4 torps... if you can spend some cash and buy those 50 missing fuel talkens , you wont be sorry .

[Dams_77]

1 hour ago, Wicket_Boomber said:

I have made it with Benham , and I can only say to you , she is worth it ! , I have a loot of fun with that ship , I had game where I capped B, same time most my team was on A , and 4 ships that was on C died qiuckly , so we was 4 down , enemy 3 bb and 2 cruisers was going from C to A to flank our focess , we would lose , but ! , I was there , I have alone holded them back 7 minutes , I have 17 torpedo hits , just one kill , but that was enough to buy time my team to kill rest on  A , and flank enemy . Benham shoot 16 torps  every 65 sec , when I shoot first 16 , so before last set of 4 go 10.5 km , I can shoot another reloaded set of 4 torps... if you can spend some cash and buy those 50 missing fuel talkens , you wont be sorry .

 

I'm sure you are telling the truth I was already thinking that ship has good fun factor. But WG convinced me not to spend even 1 of my doublon. I had like 1250 to add to get benham, but I transformed my 750 event points into "premium" time instead.

 

For me they crossed the line this time, not even Dasha in Bikini would help .....

 

I prefer to spend my cash on player friendly games.

[naztb]

On 7/25/2019 at 8:20 AM, Episparh said:

This is what you get when you relay just on old players and there is not new blood.  

And there is not new players because the game relay on external resources of knowledge rather on knowledge gained through game play while doing tutorials. If we had a constant flow of new players who would buy Tirpitz and other old premiums, it all might be different. 

 

P. S. It bacomes suddenly very cheap it will mean that they are closing

You wont get new players to stick with the game as soon as they hit tier 3 they start to run into the seal clubbers the Campbelltown tier 3 DD that can stealth torp  and at tier 4 you get the Kamikaze players with 19 point captains running RPF  speed boosting up to south Carolina's with its 35 second reload and no accuracy main battery and wrecking them with torpedoes at point blank range. You also have Nicolai at tier 4  The Guilio Cesare and Texas at tier 5  and it gets progressively worse. If they make it past the seal clubbers they can look forward to constant plus 2 MM until they get to tier 9 and they can only get plus 1 MM. New players will not stick this game even given proper tutorials there is still too much to make them quit and lose intrest. Most events are higher tier ships so they get excluded by default if they get frustrated and buy a tier 8 premium they dont have the experience and still get wrecked. As far as WG is concerned if a new player buys 1 tier 8 then quits they have made their money they just fail to realize that their long term player base are also leaving the game.

 

 

P.S I have been WOWS free for 5 weeks now and I dont miss it in the least.

[Episparh]

7 hours ago, naztb said:

You wont get new players to stick with the game as soon as they hit tier 3 they start to run into the seal clubbers the Campbelltown tier 3 DD that can stealth torp  and at tier 4 you get the Kamikaze players with 19 point captains running RPF  speed boosting up to south Carolina's with its 35 second reload and no accuracy main battery and wrecking them with torpedoes at point blank range. You also have Nicolai at tier 4  The Guilio Cesare and Texas at tier 5  and it gets progressively worse. If they make it past the seal clubbers they can look forward to constant plus 2 MM until they get to tier 9 and they can only get plus 1 MM. New players will not stick this game even given proper tutorials there is still too much to make them quit and lose intrest. Most events are higher tier ships so they get excluded by default if they get frustrated and buy a tier 8 premium they dont have the experience and still get wrecked. As far as WG is concerned if a new player buys 1 tier 8 then quits they have made their money they just fail to realize that their long term player base are also leaving the game.

 

 

P.S I have been WOWS free for 5 weeks now and I dont miss it in the least.

You are not quite right and the seal clubbers are just few. The problem is that given same ships the newbies have great disadvantage of missing knowledge, which cannot be compensated if you give them lvl19 commander or kamikaze. There is no excuse to sail a Pensacola broad side to New Mexico. 

 

P. S. You are way too salty for 5 weeks. 

[Dams_77]

2 hours ago, Episparh said:

P. S. You are way too salty for 5 weeks. 

 

Game has huge potential