CV's - I'm not giving support until I get support back!

[Guy01]

I have played as a CV player and seen the disregard other players just leave the CV's to fend for themselves!

Well "Times are a changing"

 

Support your local CV!

 

He is crucial or at least part of your victory...but we can't win the games by ourselves

 

..TEAMWORK and understanding the role of CV captains with other team members make for a win!

[OVanBruce]

Well, most of the times a CV should be moving around to the safest spot possible in order to be unnoticed and far from enemy DDs. I know this can be difficult specially when your team is getting wiped but asking for support just at the beggining is a no-no unless you suspect you are gonna get rushed just at the beginning when you have 2 enemy CVs in front of you.

 

CVs can fend off by thenselves imo, you just have to know where to be all the time.

[arcyaxiom]

perhaps if the average cv captain looked at their position with regards to where friendlies are and didnt just hide in one far away corner where even the fastest DDs take minutes to get to them they just might find they have friendlies close enough to provide help when needed?

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Many times I have seen CV(both in my team adn and on the other side) going into corner and... mission accomplished (it's an arty syndrome from wot going into farthest corner and now moving).

 

Edit Someone who is always behind sending torp. bombers and making other life sad saying that will not support teammates until they support him... My thoughts about carrier players are even worse now than before

[Grim_Destiny]

I always bring my CV where the action is.

 

If a Group of BBs go anywhere, my CV will be right behind them.

 

Problem is though, they tend to leave me behind if I need to make a turn to Dodge TBs or incoming fire. By the time i get back on course, the friendlies are FAR away.

 

Hardly anyone ever gives a crap about CV players on a team. I do my best to support the team, but most People don`t understand how CV play Works when there are CVs on both teams and since teamplay is fragile in the best of times, alot of People seem to think CVs are always "doing their own thing" and thus, refuse to give a crap. About a quarter of the times i get killed, it`s directly related to teammates leaving me behind and not supporting when i`m in trouble.

 

Keep in mind though...

 

Most of the time I get killed because i don`t pay attention and put myself in a bad situation- and i have at times received awesome help from true teamplayers. I think it`s mostly Down to teamplay not being valued in general, that these issues arise..

 

[foche]

i'm always playing my CV from 2/3rd line (about 17/18 km from the frontline , as my concealment range is 15 km)

 

this save about 1 min of cruising time from my plane for return and rearm duty , and that basicaly how all players should play a CV 

[Guy01]

Take the fight to the enemy but make sure you have breathing space. Great points made chaps.

 

 

Grim_Destiny, on 29 April 2015 - 08:41 PM, said:

I always bring my CV where the action is.

 

If a Group of BBs go anywhere, my CV will be right behind them.

 

Problem is though, they tend to leave me behind if I need to make a turn to Dodge TBs or incoming fire. By the time i get back on course, the friendlies are FAR away.

 

Hardly anyone ever gives a crap about CV players on a team. I do my best to support the team, but most People don`t understand how CV play Works when there are CVs on both teams and since teamplay is fragile in the best of times, alot of People seem to think CVs are always "doing their own thing" and thus, refuse to give a crap. About a quarter of the times i get killed, it`s directly related to teammates leaving me behind and not supporting when i`m in trouble.

 

Keep in mind though...

 

Most of the time I get killed because i don`t pay attention and put myself in a bad situation- and i have at times received awesome help from true teamplayers. I think it`s mostly Down to teamplay not being valued in general, that these issues arise..

 

 

foche, on 29 April 2015 - 08:43 PM, said:

i'm always playing my CV from 2/3rd line (about 17/18 km from the frontline , as my concealment range is 15 km)

 

this save about 1 min of cruising time from my plane for return and rearm duty , and that basicaly how all players should play a CV

 

I like to follow BB's and give support where appropriate, but when the pack scatters it's not easy to find the best direction, a more considered & strategic approach through comms is best, trying to second guess the team direction is not what a CV Captain wants to do.
 

[Zenith]

You'll be waiting a while for that support, sadly. DDs and CAs are too busy rushing to their collective doom, and BBs are trying very hard to avoid being torp spammed. I think CVs just get forgotten as a result. 

[shrapnel_bait]

The reason a lot of carriers don't get support is because a lot of carrier drivers stay as far back as possible, which means to support them a cruiser or battleship has to hang back close to their position, this means that the cruiser or battleship driver doesn't get involved with the main battle until close to the end and leaves the team short those ships. All the carrier drivers need to do, as stated in previous replies, is stay close enough to the main group of ships in their team, and let's be honest most battles end up with a couple of groups of 3 or 4 ships moving around the map, but just far enough back that the enemy don't spot them.

[knaveofengland]

look at the mini map talk to the team and see what ships can help you fast is what I see helps the most also stay a bit closer to the fleet

[Maglor_the_rum]

Stay near the BB lemming train becose:
some CA is here usually
They protect from pesky DD, give AA cover even for you and the fly time back and forth the battleline is usually shorter, after all you CV have some HP.

[Devantejah]

I'll gladly support the CV in my team if it stopped running away from me after hiding in a corner as far away from everyone as possible while I am trying to help.

[Losqualo]

It depends on the CV player. Many of them seek the support of an island (aka hiding stopped behind an island far away from the action), so I see no need to add my support.

If, on the other hand, he seeks my support (aka he moves withe the main group) he'll get my support.

[Keulz]

Well, most of the times a CV should be moving around to the safest spot possible in order to be unnoticed and far from enemy DDs

 

No, too safe means that you'll waste too much time moving your planes to position, reducing your effective RoF.

[Ishiro32]

 

No, too safe means that you'll waste too much time moving your planes to position, reducing your effective RoF.

 

I think what he meant is that the safest spot is just behind his team. Not behind an island 25 km away from your nearest ally nor parked in the corner of the map waiting for the random DD to find you.

[Boomer7]

The problem with the CV is, that you just dont spend enough time watching the carrier itself. Coordinating fighters and bombers is hard enough.

No wonder people just park their CV in an area supposed to be safe.

 

Before you know where the lines are going it is pure suicide to commit to a flank which might get wiped out.

I normally set a course with a few way points around the spawning area and when its clear how it goes I follow to a flank with full speed.

 

Carrier play is just so different from the other ships its hard to follow them around and not getting in their way.

Would be nice if there were an autopilot option of follow, where you just click a friendly ship and you carrier follows it at a given distance.

 

Might solve a few of the issues. Carriers getting more up to the front, by that getting more support from other ships, and with the autopilot not getting too much in the way. Somehow the autopilot would also need to evade islands, but that might then maybe be too much automatisation.

[rancidpunk]

I'm quite happy if the team leaves me alone in my Lexi to go and fight/cap/kill.

 

I only average 4 or 5 hits with torps so CA/CL's are much better off engaging the enemy than looking after my lame [edited], they can cause way more damage than I can and that's what counts! 

 

 

[Keulz]

I only average 4 or 5 hits with torps so CA/CL's are much better off engaging the enemy than looking after my lame [edited], they can cause way more damage than I can and that's what counts! 

 

???

You must be always firing in automatic mode, don't you ?

 

I really don't get it, overall you're a good player but you have a really low avg damage in CV. There is something you're doing really wrong, you could/should do much better.

[Boevebeest]

Well, it is often the CV player who puts himself in bad situations.

 

While team goes forward they move to the furthest rear of the map on their own.

You really expect one or two friendly ships to escort you and not participate in the battle?

 

I will to great lengths to protect our CV's but I won't put myself in a position where I'm unable to participate in the battle just to save some bad CV player.

Removing a ship from the battle hurts the team more than loosing a mediocre or bad CV player.

 

Follow the fleet at a distance so they can support you when needed instead of demanding them to escort you all the time rendering them useless to the team.

Look where enemy planes come from and put some friendly ships between yourself and the flightpath.

Be close enough near friendly ships so when a enemy DD breaks through they are within range to support you. Move towards team instead of away from them.

[Loran_Battle]

It's only the bad CV players that sit behind an island or never even move at all.

 

I ALWAYS move right behind the BBs. Gets my planes back into the fight much faster.

 

Also: if a carrier does not move, people will see where his planes go to and know where he is. I have won battles because people moved to a previous location of mine, because they saw planes moving there. And enemy carriers sitting still will often find that my TBs love stationairy targets...

 

I have even capped in a few games with my Ranger and Lexington. I really dislike carriers that just sit in the corner of the map (as much as I dislike BBs sitting in the same corner of the map). This reminds me of the baddie that decides to go "defend the arty" with his top tier heavy/medium tank, one of my biggest gripes in WoT.

[Keulz]

It's only the bad CV players that sit behind an island or never even move at all.

 

I sit behind an island and never move (unless someone comes to me), so i'm a bad CV player ?

[rancidpunk]

 

???

You must be always firing in automatic mode, don't you ?

 

I really don't get it, overall you're a good player but you have a really low avg damage in CV. There is something you're doing really wrong, you could/should do much better.

 

A bit of that is down to me taking a fighter/dive bomber load out while there were loads of people playing CV's. I started using torp bombers for the first time since alpha recently when I couldn't guarantee the other team would have a CV. I'm in serious need of some practice and got to stop going for Amagi's as I lose most of my planes before they launch. Lower tier targets it is for now.

[Ishiro32]

 

I sit behind an island and never move (unless someone comes to me), so i'm a bad CV player ?

 

Yes, but at least you have reading comprehension skills. Congratulations!

If you see someone coming at you, it's already too late. You can park behind an island for some time, because it is additional cover, but overall it's better to move.

[AgarwaenME]

Parking behind an island does nothing but ensure you'll be in the first place they'll look.

[Purgafox]

When i drive my Cleveland i try to cover our CV if there is a critical situation. So far i managed twice to fend off DD attacks on our CV before they could get even close to launch Torpedoes. They were smoking wrecks before that: