It might be a conspiricy theory, ...but

[K98_Schuetze]

.... I can not explain it otherwise.

Since 1 year I am stuck on 59,xx% winrate.

It seems that I am matched mostly in very bad teams.

Also, it happens mostly with 1 ship at most...not to say mostly....

 

I know the community can be salty, but seriously, something feels subjectivly (as I can not verify it) hardcoded.

Have you guys similar experiences?

 

Greetings

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4_F5HZSAo

[Ubertron_X]

Single or division? And no.

[ColonelPete]

If you are stuck, that is you limit.

There is no unlimited growth. You should have heard about it, the whole world is talking about the limits of growth.

[250swb]

Skill cap reached? You can't go upwards without the extra skill needed, but you could go down if get frustrated and careless.

[K98_Schuetze]

Honestly, watch the video to the last.

 

I dont say, that one can not have a bad time or so. But with the Missie its just terrible.

 

Also, the more you play, the better you get. Evidence I have in other games, games where the learning curve is pretty high, much higher than this arcade game here.

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, K98_Schuetze said:

Also, the more you play, the better you get. Evidence I have in other games, games where the learning curve is pretty high, much higher than this arcade game here.

Only to a certain point. There is no unlimited skill growth. How hard it is to understand? 

There is a reason there is no one with a 100% solo winrate...

[K98_Schuetze]

13 minutes ago, Ubertron_X said:

Single or division? And no.

Its mostly happening in division, but if I play the Missourie, its mostly the case.

[K98_Schuetze]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

Only to a certain point. There is no unlimited skill growth. How hard it is to understand? 

There is a reason there is no one with a 100% solo winrate...

Off course there can not be someone with a 100% winrate and a certain amount of played games.

I don't say that.

But my subjective feeling, or better said; experience is, that if I play 30 games in a Missourie, I lose 27 of them in the last year.

Once Wargaming admitted, that, from their point of view, the high income rate creditwise with this ship, was a misstake.

So, the question or idea I gained, is - do they programm a negative effect in it with certain players?

Why I am so suspecious?

I watched Flamu's 1 hour video from St. Petersburg where the developers are saying, they have all the knowledge to gain the frustration level and statistics about things.

Off course this is all conspiracy theory, but if you guys would go with this ship through my experiences with it - maybe you would ask yourselfe whats the case actually ... :)

 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

36 minutes ago, 250swb said:

Skill cap reached?

For that you need a skill based game.

[bushwacker001]

If you are that desperate to get to 60% then just play your T3's and T4's  ... well over a quarter of all you battles there and that's where you have the most success.

[ColonelPete]

17 minutes ago, K98_Schuetze said:

Off course this is all conspiracy theory, but if you guys would go with this ship through my experiences with it - maybe you would ask yourselfe whats the case actually ... :)

I would analyze what went wrong and not blame the company.

Missouris stats did not change significantly.

WG has nothing to gain from this.

 

[Crysantos]

39 minutes ago, K98_Schuetze said:

.... I can not explain it otherwise.

Since 1 year I am stuck on 59,xx% winrate.

It seems that I am matched mostly in very bad teams.

Also, it happens mostly with 1 ship at most...not to say mostly....

 

I know the community can be salty, but seriously, something feels subjectivly (as I can not verify it) hardcoded.

Have you guys similar experiences?

 

Greetings

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4_F5HZSAo

Well, there is only so much impact you can have as solo player on a match of 12 vs. 12. There is always room for improvement and the best way to learn is to observe the best players out there and play with / against them. So competitive gameplay might be a decent way to further improve your skill.

 

14 minutes ago, K98_Schuetze said:

Off course there can not be someone with a 100% winrate and a certain amount of played games.

I don't say that.

But my subjective feeling, or better said; experience is, that if I play 30 games in a Missourie, I lose 27 of them in the last year.

Once Wargaming admitted, that, from their point of view, the high income rate creditwise with this ship, was a misstake.

So, the question or idea I gained, is - do they programm a negative effect in it with certain players?

Why I am so suspecious?

I watched Flamu's 1 hour video from St. Petersburg where the developers are saying, they have all the knowledge to gain the frustration level and statistics about things.

Off course this is all conspiracy theory, but if you guys would go with this ship through my experiences with it - maybe you would ask yourselfe whats the case actually ... :)

Sorry but that's a tinfoil hat theory. We have no interest in doing that and many other players with higher WR are a good example for that. Maybe Missouri is simply not "your" ship so to say? There are certain ships that fit your playstyle better than others, while some might just not work out for you. Most players have these oddlings in their port, if you keep playing the Missouri I'm sure your WR is going to even out. Also when "we" as company talk about statistics, we talk about statistics for the entire server population on regional and global levels.

 

The one thing to keep in mind about improving statswise is that the only constant in your games is yourself. Learn how to make most out of your own impact on the game, communicate with others or play in division to have an impact on teamplay. Learn from your mistakes - if you look at the game to blame it for not progressing further, you're looking the wrong way and this will be an obstacle in becoming better - because you start blaming other factors than yourself.

 

My 2 cents on this

 

Greetings, Crysantos

[CptBarney]

Probs hit your own skill ceiling or playing ships that dont suit your playstyle.

 

try other tiers, my pr and winrate took a hit when i started playing tier 9 and 8 but have gotten better due to me understanding (more) on how these ships play in general (georgias lack of shell velocity does my head-in though).

[El2aZeR]

I got so incredibly suspicious at one time that I recorded average WR difference of my team (sans my own) vs enemy team as soon as I got 80% WR or above with a certain ship over I think it was 150 battles.

At first I thought I was on to something as every time I hit 80% WR or above WR difference would be at least 5% or more in the enemy team's favor. But after a while it normalized so I chalk up the initial run to bad luck.

 

You're just always extremely likely to have bad teammates because the majority of players in this game are abysmal.

[bushwacker001]

16 minutes ago, Crysantos said:

Maybe Missouri is simply not "your" ship so to say?

You are right...Kuma is his ship 

 

 

Seriously though OP.......play ships you have a plus 60% wr in if you want to go higher.....you won't do it playing ships you keep losing in. 

 

[Crysantos]

2 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

You are right...Kuma is his ship

Well, if he feels more comfortable at lower Tiers, so be it. To be successful on the Missouri more experience on higher Tiers will definitely be helpful and make him a better player.

 

Greetings, Crysantos

[Major_Damage225]

4 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

You are right...Kuma is his ship 

 

You'd be surprised how good a Kuma with a 19poiter can be..... Got to respec one of my jap 19'ers for her 

[bushwacker001]

Just now, Crysantos said:

Well, if he feels more comfortable at lower Tiers, so be it. To be successful on the Missouri more experience on higher Tiers will definitely be helpful and make him a better player.

 

Greetings, Crysantos

I know...read my edit   I am on 59.7 at the moment and if I was that bothered about going above 60% I would just stick to my Kami.

[Crysantos]

7 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

I know...read my edit   I am on 59.7 at the moment and if I was that bothered about going above 60% I would just stick to my Kami.

Even though I never understood that sentiment. Yes you can keep playing ships you know you are strong in, but that will never make you a properly well rounded, good player. Play the ships you suck in and understand why yo do poorly in them - the same aspect is true for playing unpopular or lower / mid Tier ships. Many people like to skip those but they miss out on odd ships that might be really fun and they don't learn how to deal with it. Your WR might drop on a short term scale but on a long term scale you will be a better player and score better results in general.

 

WR without context only tells you so much about player skill - if you compare a player with 60% WR on very specific ships and a player who hits 55% WR on average on all ships, I'd probably rather have the second guy on my side because I know he knows how to handle himself. If you don't make mistakes and try these things, you limit your own growth in skill and experience.

 

Greetings, Crysantos

[Redcap375]

I've always hovered around 58-59% and have done for the last year or so. 

 

However, I expect this WR because.

 

1) I play with a normal semi competitive old Clan, but we always punch above our weight.

2) We do count downs.  Not many top clans do this as playing against other good players doesn't exactly improve your WR. However, it's funny and a laugh

3) I play ALL lines

4) I play all tiers

5) I play solo when I feel like it

6) I Div with good players, not Fanatic ones (like 60+ WR) 

7) I don't seal club with the majority of my games played at tier 7-8-9-10 games. 

8) I don't just use premium, coal or steel ships.

 

If I really wanted to brake the 60+ then I could do....Easy. All I would have to do would to change ANY of the above.  However I am more than happy to stay as it is. 

 

So OP, you wanna increase your WR? don't do most (or pick and choose) any of the above.  But seal clubbing is the lowest of the low so don't go down that route please. 

[Lieut_Gruber]

1 hour ago, K98_Schuetze said:

Its mostly happening in division, but if I play the Missourie, its mostly the case.

I guess the Missouri has been power crept? Its an old ship, if you want to climb in wr, use strongest ships possible.

[Redcap375]

And OP don't go off WR.

 

There are so many variables that having a 60% can tell you little in the long run.  The guy/Girl might have just played one line, premium ships and seal club at tier 4 with a 19 point captain.   

[Hanse77SWE]

You hit your ceiling. Nothing else. It happens to us all.

[KillStealBoss]

56 minutes ago, Crysantos said:

Maybe Missouri is simply not "your" ship so to say?

I have the same thing with Zao. I like it but mostly I get a loss. I had to accommodate to that fact 

[250swb]

51 minutes ago, _Bajkal said:

For that you need a skill based game.

So your 61% WR isn't to do with skill? That is either very worrying on many levels, or explainable in a human way.

 

I know it must be to do with skill, but at what point in the game? Your WR hasn't changed much since you started playing, and as players know who've played WoT (as a comparison for instance, because I haven't played WoWs for very long) long standing players tend to have a running advantage because the game was simpler 'back then'. So are you saying your WR hasn't gone up because ongoing from 2015 WG decided to nerf you?