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All Battleships should come with their designed speed (instead of only the Soviet ones)

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This criticism would seem to apply to every class of USA Battleship in the game, and seems to me to be an unhelpful and out-dated legacy of the original lines. To reach their actual design speed in game players need to unlock and purchase an engine upgrade. The stock modules do not provide proper fidelity. While this holds true for most* Battleship lines in the game, it is especially painful for the USA because of their already slow design speed.

 

*The exception is, perhaps unsurprisingly, the Soviet Union line of Battleships, which do not have propulsion upgrades and have their design speed unlocked from the start. Instead there's a bit of a extra XP needed for the first hull upgrade, and a bit more XP needed for the next tier. Kirill Kustov has something to answer for there...

 

No kidding, US Battleships are too slow for their own good. The propulsion upgrade for Colorado, for example, is 13% extra speed. At 21 knots they're lumbering into positions, but at 16, 17, 18 knots they're especially disadvantaged.

 

There's no real need to have the interim stage. If the Soviet branch is representative of Battleship line design philosophy going forward then all the other lines need to be retrospectively amended to also start with their 'proper' propulsion module.

 

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Can the Japanese have the 40km fastest and unvisible torps then ? From MUSTUKI onwards ? No ? Then that's settled.

Little reminder : this game is FANTASY. It's not just "not a simulator". It's WG's fictional playground. If they want US BBs to start slow then god has spoken.

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What ? This IS a rant thread after all right ? No reason the Op would be the only one allowed to rant.

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Since we are at it.

45cm and 50cm Guns for GK please. :)

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they do 2.89x the speed the gui says they are doing though

 

are you SURE you want them doing their design speed?

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Azuma/Yoshino 40kts speed when?

 

Aimbot for hightier USN to show off their superb radar assisted gunnery when?

 

Single torpedo delivering crippling damage when?

 

 

Are you certain you want to go "realism" route?:cap_tea:

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1 hour ago, Panocek said:

Azuma/Yoshino 40kts speed when?

 

Aimbot for hightier USN to show off their superb radar assisted gunnery when?

 

Single torpedo delivering crippling damage when?

 

 

Are you certain you want to go "realism" route?:cap_tea:

ok  but than for GErman BBs please aimbot for German BBs from T7 onward since they got Superioir Assisted Gunnery the first. "HMS Hood - Pride of the Royal N... ever mind - its gone"

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If i have understood it correctly, he is asking for the  researchable engine upgrade on silver ships to be free/at max... And not some rl modifications. 

If that is the case, then i dont have any preferances regarding that... Would ease up the grind of us bbs but other than that, its not that important for my part. Doubt it would happend tho. 

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13 hours ago, Mysterion2109 said:

ok  but than for GErman BBs please aimbot for German BBs from T7 onward since they got Superioir Assisted Gunnery the first. "HMS Hood - Pride of the Royal N... ever mind - its gone"

Hood was an obsolete battlecruiser that sorely needed a full overhaul, instead it was send to fight a much newer (although also quite obsolete) battleSHIP. Battlecruisers are supposed to run from those.... Bismarck got lucky and then karma did its magic and it got equally unlucky. Because guess what? Bismarck is equally as gone. :) 

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13 hours ago, Mysterion2109 said:

ok  but than for GErman BBs please aimbot for German BBs from T7 onward since they got Superioir Assisted Gunnery the first. "HMS Hood - Pride of the Royal N... ever mind - its gone"

46222360_bismarckmeme.thumb.jpg.8c86dff8f7a9d8dd3edabfbe43a2aab2.jpg

 

Anyways, with that you might as well open the gates to tiers 11 and 12.

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On 7/9/2019 at 12:40 AM, SkollUlfr said:

they do 2.89x the speed the gui says they are doing though

 

are you SURE you want them doing their design speed?

Thanks for posting this - it's very interesting and something I had not thought about - it's a game and not a simulator after all.

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On 7/9/2019 at 12:25 AM, DanSilverwing said:

 If the Soviet branch is representative of Battleship line design philosophy going forward then all the other lines need to be retrospectively amended to also start with their 'proper' propulsion module. 
 

 

Can we for the love of god not start this kind of reasoning? The ruski's are broken, and to use a phrasing by WG themselves, it's the RU BBs that need to be hammered into balans - AND NOT the other BBs following suit.

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Seems like the point whooshed over many people's heads. It is about why Soviet bb have no researchable engine module, which is a clear advantage over other stock battleships, especially US <t7 that start at below 20kts stock.

And yes, it should be as @Saiyko suggested, the other way around (soviet BBs should have researchable engines as well)

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Russian bias aside, why should BBs have researchable engines in the first place, if not every ship type does? They seem to be 'directed' at BBs for no good reason.

 

It amounts to being told you're going to have this bad experience of being too slow to be useful until passing the 17k XP (example amount) it takes to unlock the engine. You don't explicitly need it, unlike the godawful suspensions in WOT which almost literally do nothing, but it's a similarly useless time sink that just adds a pointless extra step in the grind which is technically optional but good luck having fun. Like the XP to unlock the ship in the first place may as well have been 17k higher.

 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 6:01 PM, Mysterion2109 said:

ok  but than for GErman BBs please aimbot for German BBs from T7 onward since they got Superioir Assisted Gunnery the first. "HMS Hood - Pride of the Royal N... ever mind - its gone"

 

Prince of Wales was the Pride of the Royal Navy going down. A fully modern battleship afloat for just 4 years.

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On 7/8/2019 at 11:38 PM, Sunleader said:

Since we are at it.

45cm and 50cm Guns for GK please. :)

Probs need to come with names for the H43 and H44.

 

something fancy and german.

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What I dont understand is why the stock engine modules arent the same as they had in real life and the upgraded ones are better, like in many other researchable ships. Instead we have worse engines stock and you upgrade them to the real life performance which seems silly.

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Sailing a stock ship can range from ok to outright bad. I am fine with the fact of stock ships just for WG to make us manage our FXP etc... But atleast be fair and treat all lines equal. Now you sail a soviet BB at its final speed from the start while you are stuck at a lower speed in other ships. And those speed upgrades are sometims really sillly. That 1,5 knot on the Izumo fe.

 

My friend recently bought the New Mex, and instead of ugrading to hull B his first upgrade was the speed. Not that 21 knts is good, but everything to get out of that 18.5 speed.

 

WG already removed the earlier gun upgrades and some A-hulls  (stock was even worse earlier, like old Fuso or Amagi), why not change this.

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