[HAMAR] Puffin_ Players 737 posts Report post #1 Posted June 29, 2019 Is win rate the only indicator of what is your best ship in the game? I got better win rate in some ships that I thought to be inferior to ships I have not as good win rate in. I am rather surprised by this Out of T7 DDs I got the best win rate in Mahan by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted June 29, 2019 I guess PR should be the best indicator, however some ships are much better at ranoms, some at coop/ops and some at ranked, even more difference is for true competitive mods such as cw/tournaments best indicator is your success in them in a given mode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMD] Spartan_93 [NMD] Beta Tester 1,137 posts 7,227 battles Report post #3 Posted June 29, 2019 I would say "Feeling" is the best indicator. If you a ship and you like it in that gamemode, it can not be that bad for you. But if you really dislike a ship, then you should try something else. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #4 Posted June 29, 2019 Mahan is a good choice for a destroyer, I think, Best torpedo battery at that tier with a good safe engagement range - you'll be able to make to put plenty of torps into smoke hiding Belfasts or brawling Scharnhorsts.... The thing you can't predict is how the games will play out. Take a ship you like out to begin with, and see if it fits the meta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #5 Posted June 29, 2019 Us dds were always quite decent in ranked as well as their pan-asian brothers where applicable... If the ranked sprint ever starts that is ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,238 battles Report post #6 Posted June 29, 2019 Vor 2 Stunden, GudmundurG sagte: Is win rate the only indicator of what is your best ship in the game? Ranked has different rules. I'm afraid your Randoms win rates will tell you little. You will come against lots of Belfasts, Flints... Jervis/Gadja... Shiratsuyu... the odd Haida... Scharnhorst... Lyon... Nelson... Duke of York. And against competitive players who know how to use them. You need to figure out which of your Tier VII ships gives you and your team the best chance to counter people with OP Tier VII ships that know what they are doing and are there to win, not just farm mindless damage. And possibly brought a buddy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,238 battles Report post #7 Posted June 29, 2019 Vor 33 Minuten, invicta2012 sagte: Mahan is a good choice for a destroyer, I think, Best torpedo battery at that tier lol Zitat with a good safe engagement range - you'll be able to make to put plenty of torps into smoke hiding Belfasts or brawling Scharnhorsts.... Well, as slow as Mahan torps are, you'll at least have a chance to turn the ship and fire the third launcher long before the other two spreads arrive in that smoke. But the "best torpedo battery" belongs to Shira, I should think. Also the stealthiest ship... at least as far as the tech tree goes <cough> Haida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #8 Posted June 29, 2019 Leningrad comrades. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #9 Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, GudmundurG said: Is win rate the only indicator of what is your best ship in the game? I got better win rate in some ships that I thought to be inferior to ships I have not as good win rate in. I am rather surprised by this Out of T7 DDs I got the best win rate in Mahan by far. First check the winrates of all your t7 ships, then check their pr. After that just pick belfast. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #10 Posted June 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: But the "best torpedo battery" belongs to Shira, I should think. TRB Shira is on my list of Tier VII DDs to try out, for sure, but she has 1.6k detection at 62 knots; Mahan's torps are stealthier and harder to dodge, 1.1k at 55, and it's easy to have twelve fish in the water while Shira is still reloading. Don't let the facts stop you holding opinions, mind. 24 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: Also the stealthiest ship... at least as far as the tech tree goes <cough> Haida. Haida is a great ship, no doubt but not quite as well balanced as other Tier VII DDs. It's a competitive tier. 48 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: Ranked has different rules. I'm afraid your Randoms win rates will tell you little. You will come against lots of Belfasts, Flints... Jervis/Gadja... Shiratsuyu... the odd Haida... Scharnhorst... Lyon... Nelson... Duke of York. And against competitive players who know how to use them. Of course you'll never have seen these ships before in Random games.... and the people who rock up thinking their premiums and Tier X expertise are going to give them an E-Z ride might well find that arrogance foundering in front of a few broadsides from a Helena, Fiji or Sinop. Plebian silver ships of course, but still quite good. :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H_FAN] Gnirf Players 3,293 posts 67,362 battles Report post #11 Posted June 29, 2019 Its also a question if you have a high end captain the ship, it helps - in sprint it is also if you play in divisions which ships are a good combination and/or if you play solo which ship are you least dependent on others. No CVs so AA monsters is irrelevant which should f.e. strengthen IJN ships f.e.. But I think besides some obbvius OP ships that everyone knows there are several due to which playstyle you have OP that are good and functional choices, all the new lines can make an interesting spread of lineups. Also play a ship that you know inside and out is better than to take the best ship "on paper". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munchboii Players 102 posts 3,037 battles Report post #12 Posted June 29, 2019 I'm planning to take out HMS Nelson. A great ships with only weaknesses being bad AA and the citadel being large. However there will be no CVs so AA wont matter and also there are less players, so the chances of being flanked is reduced. I also think the Lazo could be the new wildcard in town. That thing is a going to be a great counter to the Sinop, by setting it on fire 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,292 battles Report post #13 Posted June 30, 2019 /thread 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #14 Posted June 30, 2019 Belfast, Flint. One thing to consider when picking a BB, gun caliber. With fewer players odds are that you will face more angled opponents so beeing able to overmatch atleast bow and possibly deck on some ships become more important. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #15 Posted June 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, ollonborre said: Belfast, Flint. One thing to consider when picking a BB, gun caliber. With fewer players odds are that you will face more angled opponents so beeing able to overmatch atleast bow and possibly deck on some ships become more important. Good mobility won't hurt either, so..Ashitaka? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #16 Posted June 30, 2019 Pick whatever makes you feel comfortable. For me its premium ships at T7. Sharny/Belfast/Lenny (and maybe Blyska as i seem unable to find a good reason to play her this days). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Snoww Players 865 posts 23,320 battles Report post #17 Posted June 30, 2019 It doesn't really matter. It's a rank sprint. A few games and you'll be done and it's got crap rewards anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #18 Posted June 30, 2019 Do I even need to say it.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #19 Posted June 30, 2019 Almost all recommendation are premiums, I wonder why ........ But yeah, "something, something Premium" from me too .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #20 Posted June 30, 2019 i can put premium infront of shchors if u want ? :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #21 Posted June 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, lameoll said: i can put premium infront of shchors if u want ? :P Its called Lazlo, and yeah I can see it being better - plane and 19pts captain alone. I was thinking about Fiji - throwing my ship away to kill 1 or 2 DDs. Or Indianapolis, thowing my ship away to radar Belfast; but that would be actually premium again. However in no way recommendations, just the 2 things coming to my mind when I hear T7 ranked -> DD hunting and fúck Payfast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #22 Posted June 30, 2019 lazlo is premium chapayev :P But ye :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #23 Posted June 30, 2019 No point of playing silver ships over premium ... if nothing else for the bonuses alone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #24 Posted June 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, nambr9 said: No point of playing silver ships over premium ... if nothing else for the bonuses alone. Yeah but you would expect that at least some top picks are silver, especially if there is a premium version also available, because the earnings are not enough to make up for the shortcommings. Instead you have the earnings, the better captains AND the ships are better themselves? I mean I recognise that for example Mahan/Gaja/Jervis and so on have no premium counterpart. But why in the everlasting name of fúck would I play Fiji over Belfast? Or even NO over Indi (and that one can be considered garbage pick). Recently while travelling and having some downtime I actually watched Flamu in ..... half a year? year? more? Remember I picked this one because there were no mutings, and the title sounded promising. But yeah, just to get the right scent of salt for ranked ...... (watch at least 2 minutes) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/438841434?t=06h14m15s (in case it doesnt work) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #25 Posted June 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, havaduck said: Yeah but you would expect that at least some top picks are silver, especially if there is a premium version also available, because the earnings are not enough to make up for the shortcommings. Instead you have the earnings, the better captains AND the ships are better themselves? I mean I recognise that for example Mahan/Gaja/Jervis and so on have no premium counterpart. But why in the everlasting name of fúck would I play Fiji over Belfast? Or even NO over Indi (and that one can be considered garbage pick). Recently while travelling and having some downtime I actually watched Flamu in ..... half a year? year? more? Remember I picked this one because there were no mutings, and the title sounded promising. But yeah, just to get the right scent of salt for ranked ...... (watch at least 2 minutes) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/438841434?t=06h14m15s (in case it doesnt work) That's why I don't play ranked. It's not good for my health. This one is better. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
