Mastadans Players 119 posts 9,707 battles Report post #1 Posted June 27, 2019 Short range torps, high detection radius,... the need to brawl with her in close combat against a sh*triver of enemies' torps makes it useless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,658 posts 7,861 battles Report post #2 Posted June 27, 2019 I haven't figured her out yet as well... Compared to the Messer: torpedoes are slower, shorter range, less damage, longer reload times.... Carnal has also worse concealment. The Seascythe rips anything apart though :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,036 battles Report post #3 Posted June 27, 2019 Mate, the Carnal is amazeballs. The Lancel is even better as a straight up upgrade. The Rumble though is thoroughly underwhelming compared to its predecessor. Have 2x5 centerline torps is MUCH better gameplay wise than having wingmounted launchers with much less torpedo weight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,808 posts 20,427 battles Report post #4 Posted June 27, 2019 It seems that people don't know how to play the Carnal. Or to put it another way - they don't have Carnal Kowledge. (I myself only use Carnal kowledge these days when describing new half-baked Wargaming developments) 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mastadans Players 119 posts 9,707 battles Report post #5 Posted June 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Aotearas said: Mate, the Carnal is amazeballs. The Lancel is even better as a straight up upgrade. The Rumble though is thoroughly underwhelming compared to its predecessor. Have 2x5 centerline torps is MUCH better gameplay wise than having wingmounted launchers with much less torpedo weight. And how do you plan to launch these amazing torpedos of 4km range to a target parallel or incoming, which already launched you 2 salvos from farther? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,089 posts 13,991 battles Report post #6 Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mastadans said: And how do you plan to launch these amazing torpedos of 4km range to a target parallel or incoming, which already launched you 2 salvos from farther? From underwater mate, WG told us we get subs, well here it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,036 battles Report post #7 Posted June 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, Mastadans said: And how do you plan to launch these amazing torpedos of 4km range to a target parallel or incoming, which already launched you 2 salvos from farther? Easy, by getting right up into their faces. The Carnal and Lancel can literally stop dead in their tracks and accelerate to full speed when you want it. Playing with your speed you can dodge torpedoes firing 2km away from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mastadans Players 119 posts 9,707 battles Report post #8 Posted June 27, 2019 And again, Lancet, another PoS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,172 posts 13,507 battles Report post #9 Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: Or to put it another way - they don't have Carnal Kowledge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GW_KR] nooberg Players 225 posts 24,077 battles Report post #10 Posted June 27, 2019 Played my first Savage Battle In Carnal My teammates died early. Won the whole thing, 4 kills with torpsCarnal is awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,068 posts 18,126 battles Report post #11 Posted June 27, 2019 Carnal has an amazing turning radius and of the new Tier 1 ships, she is very good, in fact she is the only one that I have actually managed to get any kills with so far as she can turn inside the enemy torpedo arcs if you get it right, not sure about the tier 2 and tier 3 ships here as done all three containers today and not progressed to next tier yet but this will give me a shed load of elite XP to upgrade mainline captains to level 19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 5,791 posts 31,660 battles Report post #12 Posted June 27, 2019 The whole Savage battles is crap... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semiGM ∞ Players 731 posts 8,063 battles Report post #13 Posted June 27, 2019 I even run torp acceleration on her, camp till the end and then in close range brawl you are the superior ship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 4,585 posts 27,305 battles Report post #14 Posted June 29, 2019 Different play style than the other 2, requires much more WASD-ing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CN_] _Kettenbeisser Beta Tester 210 posts 13,224 battles Report post #15 Posted June 29, 2019 7 hours ago, lup3s said: requires much more WASD-ing. I think that's why people (Kevins) struggle with her. She's a hack ship but it's massive fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkollUlfr Players 1,167 posts 6,026 battles Report post #16 Posted June 29, 2019 carnal line are the supreme torpedobeats boats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,036 battles Report post #17 Posted June 29, 2019 14 hours ago, lup3s said: Different play style than the other 2, requires much more WASD-ing. Ignore A & D, W & S is all you need in that thing. You can bait their torps so hard and then just zoom straight into their faces, dump yours at 1km before his torps are reloaded. Killarious! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 1,711 posts 15,360 battles Report post #18 Posted June 29, 2019 he said On 6/27/2019 at 8:28 PM, Admiral_H_Nelson said: they don't have Carnal Kowledge. and he answered On 6/27/2019 at 9:23 PM, Aotearas said: right up into their faces. no comment 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,089 posts 13,991 battles Report post #19 Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Saltface said: he said and he answered no comment Maaaaannn talk about 'the Greek way' eh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 1,711 posts 15,360 battles Report post #20 Posted June 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Maaaaannn talk about 'the Greek way' eh.... The way of Socrates, Plato, Sophocles, Euripides....Homer Oh yes, I could recite the opening verses of the Odyssey *scratching head...anything else will get me a chat ban LOL 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,089 posts 13,991 battles Report post #21 Posted June 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Saltface said: The way of Socrates, Plato, Sophocles, Euripides....Homer Oh yes, I could recite the opening verses of the Odyssey *scratching head...anything else will get me a chat ban LOL Those that invented how to use their tongue, did not just use it for speech, but found out all kinds of -lingus to practise their lingam, eh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 1,711 posts 15,360 battles Report post #22 Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: all kinds Indeed all kinds. One is a bird, the other is a feline and the other a donkey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] NothingButTheRain Players 6,338 posts 13,636 battles Report post #23 Posted June 30, 2019 Carval and Lancet are really kinda crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mastadans Players 119 posts 9,707 battles Report post #24 Posted June 30, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 7:23 PM, Aotearas said: Easy, by getting right up into their faces. The Carnal and Lancel can literally stop dead in their tracks and accelerate to full speed when you want it. Playing with your speed you can dodge torpedoes firing 2km away from you. Just keep the Carnal and her branch ships 4km away, and they are dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,036 battles Report post #25 Posted June 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mastadans said: Just keep the Carnal and her branch ships 4km away, and they are dead. You do that in an ever shrinking map with islands/skycrapers everywhere that are limiting your ability to navigate as you wish and can be used for ambushes. It's pretty damn easy to force a brawl in this mode and the Carnal and her superiours are surpremely effective at baiting and dodging torpedoes if you just toy around with your speed. Those two or so torpedo salvoes from further away are useless against you if they never hit. I can imagine you're not familiar with using the manouverability of a ship as its primary offensive and defensive tool, but it's a long shot from being a "crap" ship just because you can't make it work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites