[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #1 Posted June 26, 2019 Why can we we not have her in the game as well, seeing as we have the USS Alabama and Massachusetts as premiums, seeing as she was both the first RN BB to have radar fitted, and one of the main ships which sank the Bismarck. Both her and Nelsen was capable of equipping spotter planes, something the Nelson sorely needs 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Mr_Tayto Players 1,099 posts 10,119 battles Report post #2 Posted June 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, NoobySkooby said: Why can we we not have her in the game as well, seeing as we have the USS Alabama and Massachusetts as premiums, seeing as she was both the first RN BB to have radar fitted, and one of the main ships which sank the Bismarck. Both her and Nelsen was capable of equipping spotter planes, something the Nelson sorely needs If it was in game, I'd buy it, but I really don't see the need as we already have the premium. Ideally the class would have been the tier 8 (gun progression) of the silver line, but given how many people whine about Izumo and her gun layout that would never happen. How would you change the playstyle of Nelson/Rodney to justify it? The spotter plane would be utterly pointless, for tier 7 she has more than adequate range. A radar BB would also never happen (Missouri shipstorm). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #3 Posted June 26, 2019 Gameplay aside, I'm always down for more ships to collect, especially built and/or historically significant ones. So bring on Rodney. It'll be here, just a question of when. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #4 Posted June 26, 2019 @OP We already have 3 t7 brit prem bbs, 4-th really shouldnt happen - ever, so its either some gimped version for t6 that will hardly be interesting to many or jacked up version for t8, however since she is rather slow for t8 and vanguard beeing there as one of most modern bbs that were afloat its hardly an option either... IMHO putting vanguard in t8 was a bad mistake, its an end ww2 ship (albeit with lackluster gun calibre) it should have been tweaked to t9 same as JB was and there would then be more room for brit stuff at t8 but its how it is... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #5 Posted June 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, Mr_Tayto said: If it was in game, I'd buy it, but I really don't see the need as we already have the premium. Ideally the class would have been the tier 8 (gun progression) of the silver line, but given how many people whine about Izumo and her gun layout that would never happen. How would you change the playstyle of Nelson/Rodney to justify it? The spotter plane would be utterly pointless, for tier 7 she has more than adequate range. A radar BB would also never happen (Missouri shipstorm). Maybe new glasses are in order if you can't spot difference between Nelson and Izumo gun layout. Gameplay change... Weren't planned-but-cancelled US retrofit for her, to outfit her with Freedom Dual Purpose Mortars, give them Mass/Georgia accuracy, throw in. That or fixed torpedo launchers, after all Rodney was the only BB to successfully torp other BB. Then there would be Slava dispersion pattern because reasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6 Posted June 26, 2019 52 minutes ago, Mr_Tayto said: How would you change the playstyle of Nelson/Rodney to justify it? The spotter plane would be utterly pointless, for tier 7 she has more than adequate range. A radar BB would also never happen (Missouri shipstorm) Give Rodney a plane, more AA and hydro... and then T8. It may need some (paper...) buffing for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLUG] slugford Players 164 posts Report post #7 Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Give Rodney a plane, more AA and hydro... and then T8. It may need some (paper...) buffing for that. And torpedoes because Rodney was the only battleship ever to hit another battleship with a torpedo -- but this will make Rodney too balanced? EDIT - ah, someone already pointed that out above. Sorry! Edited June 26, 2019 by slugford 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #8 Posted June 26, 2019 If i remember correctly WG have issue modeling spotter plane on top of turrets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #9 Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, NoobySkooby said: Both her and Nelsen was capable of equipping spotter planes, something the Nelson sorely needs Nope, only Rodney was capable of operating planes. 33 minutes ago, Panocek said: That or fixed torpedo launchers, after all Rodney was the only BB to successfully torp other BB. If WG add fixed torpedoes on one ship they would be "forced" to add them on others. So no torps for Rodney. 19 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Give Rodney a plane, more AA and hydro... and then T8. It may need some (paper...) buffing for that. Nelson actually had more AA guns the Rodney IRL. Also Nelson received more modernization then Rodney. There were plans to modernize Rodney but were never realized. This could be used but then it wouldn't be "real" Rodney. Other option is 1930s version at T6. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #10 Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, fumtu said: If WG add fixed torpedoes on one ship they would be "forced" to add them on others. So no torps for Rodney. *cough* Mutsu *cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #11 Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Panocek said: *cough* Mutsu *cough* Not exactly the same. Rodney torps were underwater. Mutsu torps were above water and not completely fixed at least not in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #12 Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, fumtu said: Not exactly the same. Rodney torps were underwater. Mutsu torps were above water and not completely fixed at least not in the game. So... deepwater torps for Rodney 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #13 Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Panocek said: *cough* Mutsu *cough* and Kii, Tirpitz, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau but apart from that what have the Romans battleships even done for torpedoes? Edited June 26, 2019 by Admiral_H_Nelson Typos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14 Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, Admiral_H_Nelson said: and Kii, Tirpitz, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau You understand what is difference between those torpedo launchers and one on the Rodney, right? Also WG said they will never add underwater fixed torpedoes for BBs. If they do that for Rodney, they they would probably have to do that for every BB and cruiser that have them at some point during they service. I doubt that will ever happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFingers Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 3,242 posts Report post #15 Posted June 26, 2019 I find it strange to begin with that Nelson was chosen as the T7 premium, and not Rodney (because of a way more interesting career). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,238 battles Report post #16 Posted June 26, 2019 Vor 1 Stunde, Mr_Tayto sagte: given how many people whine about Izumo and her gun layout that would never happen. If whining people made WG do things, they would fix the CVs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #17 Posted June 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: If whining people made WG do things, they would fix the CVs. And remove fires, torps and DDs would be permaspotted all the time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #18 Posted June 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, fumtu said: Nope, only Rodney was capable of operating planes. If WG add fixed torpedoes on one ship they would be "forced" to add them on others. So no torps for Rodney. Nelson actually had more AA guns the Rodney IRL. Also Nelson received more modernization then Rodney. There were plans to modernize Rodney but were never realized. This could be used but then it wouldn't be "real" Rodney. Other option is 1930s version at T6. The vid what gave me the idea, Nelson was capable but had no launch rail, anyway interesting vid none the less.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #19 Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Panocek said: And remove fires, torps and DDs would be permaspotted all the time... But CV's are fixed, lol, they are useless now, and tomorrow we get the patch which downs all planes i one fell swoop, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #20 Posted June 26, 2019 Would love to see the Rodney sailing. But since WG decided to refuse to give the class its rightfull place in the silver line (instead of the Monarch bs and let KGV be a tier VIII) there is not much space left. I dont think Rodney deserves a gimmick abomination fate, we already have too many ships like this. But I am happy with the Nelson, imo the best Free ship available for the price (375FXP vs 1M) and for its tier (so few free (coal, FXP) ships in the range of tier V -VII. So no Rodney alas.. But WG can always suprise me with a Revenge class BB at tier V. We have 410 guns at tier VI so lets introduce 380’s at tier V On a serious note, why are we still missing the most actually build BB class (5 ships,shared with the QE class) in WOWS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #21 Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said: Would love to see the Rodney sailing. But since WG decided to refuse to give the class its rightfull place in the silver line (instead of the Monarch bs and let KGV be a tier VIII) there is not much space left. I dont think Rodney deserves a gimmick abomination fate, we already have too many ships like this. But I am happy with the Nelson, imo the best Free ship available for the price (375FXP vs 1M) and for its tier (so few free (coal, FXP) ships in the range of tier V -VII. So no Rodney alas.. But WG can always suprise me with a Revenge class BB at tier V. We have 410 guns at tier VI so lets introduce 380’s at tier V So you can overmatch when you overmatch Though I'd prefer Renown class BC there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #22 Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, T0byJug said: If i remember correctly WG have issue modeling spotter plane on top of turrets. That issue has been addressed, both Bayern and New York have working catapults mounted on turrets now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,533 battles Report post #23 Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, zFireWyvern said: That issue has been addressed, both Bayern and New York have working catapults mounted on turrets now. LOL do they.. I forgot.. show how much i know...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #24 Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, MrFingers said: I find it strange to begin with that Nelson was chosen as the T7 premium, and not Rodney (because of a way more interesting career). I think that Rodney would be better choice as T7 premium simply because Nelson receiver more modernization then Rodney. Especially in AA. For example by 1945 Nelson had 6x8 2inch AA mounts, 4x4 40mm Bofors mounts and 61 20mm guns compared to 6x8 2inch and 39 20mm guns she has currently in the game. With that AA Nelson could actually be placed at T8, additional wight would mean little more HP and with RN super heal and 32mm bows she could be a good T8 premium battleship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #25 Posted June 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Panocek said: Maybe new glasses are in order if you can't spot difference between Nelson and Izumo gun layout. Something about needing glasses?? HMS Rodney (IRL) HMS Nelson in game (plus RL set up) Izumo in game 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
